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Really, who the bleep is Tony Parker?!

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Really, who the bleep is Tony Parker?! 

Post#1 » by campybatman » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:02 am

And? And you don't have Duncan who has been your teammate from day one (Tony's rookie season was Duncan's first MVP year by the way) or a now viable starter/six man in Ginobili.

The anti Rondo sentiments by former and current players is BS. In my opinion, Parker is flat out jealous. Of what? I've no idea but it's apparent that neither he or Rondo (perhaps) like each other. I recall watching a somewhat old clip of the Celtics and someone off camera asked Rondo in the locker room the origin behind him picking the number nine for his jersey. He'd added, is it because of Parker or something like that. And Rondo quickly said, Hell no! I remember I thought that was funny since Rondo appeared to be irked by that insinuation in the follow-up question.

Boston is 3-1 against San Antonio since Rondo's rookie season. Celtics will face the Spurs this season on February eighth and March twentieth.



Like you didn't think I'd be all over this. This is from a thread at ST where the poster, Adrien, translated Tony's opinions on NBA point guards from the French sports newspaper "l'Equipe" which I think means "Cocky bastards."


The most overrated PG
Rajon Rondo


"It used to be Jason Williams. People used to love him because he was making fancy assists and they were forgetting the passes in the stands. Nowadays it's more difficult. Maybe Rajon Rondo. He is a bit overrated. Playing with Pierce and Garnett helps a lot and people tend to forget that."

It used to be Jason Williams because he was white. People used to love him because he was making fancy assists and that he was white and they were forgetting the passes in the stands because he was white. Nowadays it's more difficult because Calderon isn't American. Maybe Rajon Rondo. He is a bit overrated. Playing with Pierce and Garnett helps a lot and people tend to forget that. Thank God I don't have two superstars on my team who make me look better than I actually am.



Conclusion
"Chris Paul is the most skilled. But it's more complicated. It depends on the team you play on. If I was playin in New Orleans or Phoenix, I would have more responsabilities, more assists. My Top 5 is : Chris Paul, Myself, Deron Williams, Steve Nash and Chauncey Billups. The best PGs are in the Western Conference. Allen Iverson is now in the east but we also have Baron Davis, and when he is healthy, he can be a "pain in the ass" to play against."

It only looks like Chris Paul is better than me to the layman because gets to pass to All-Stars like Tyson Chandler and Peja Stojakovic, while I have to make do with complete bums such as Tim and Man-ooh? Am I pronouncing that right, is it Man-UH or Man-Oooh? If only Chris Paul knew my struggles.


http://www.poundingtherock.com/2009/1/2 ... -thinks-th
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114981



OK, notice how he places himself second overall. Whatever. Here's my top five point guards and honorable mentions.

1. Paul
2. D. Williams
3. Nash
4. Kidd
5. B. Davis

Bibby, Rondo, Calderon, Rose, Stuckey, Billups, D. Harris, A. Miller, Parker, Felton, Nelson and Westbrook.
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Re: Really, who the bleep is Tony Parker?! 

Post#2 » by MaxwellSmart » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:07 am

the 1997 ping pong balls made that franchise.
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Post#3 » by Cyclical » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:34 am

You do realize that only the quotes are his and not every paragraph below them? The rest is pure sarcasm by the writer. Kinda blown out of proportion. Honestly, though I personally think Parker is overrated, hey, he's entitled to his opinion. When Rondo is named NBA finals MVP, as Parker was, he can have top-5 bragging rights as well.
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Post#4 » by St.Nick » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:33 pm

He's right. Rondo is overrated.

That doesn't mean that Rondo isn't a good player, but he is overrated. He's nothing compared to Tony Parker.
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Post#5 » by BakersDozen » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:47 pm

come on guys. its not like Parker has the best pf in the nba,a scoring 2 guard,and another scorer at the wing on his team like Rondo.... Parker really is the best!
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Post#6 » by Dave_From_NB » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:09 pm

Rondo has All Star written over much of his game, but his refusal to take open jump shots creates a massive hole in his game that needs to be fixed before I'd consider him an elite PG. Against a shot blocker like Howard, Rondos inside drives are almost useless. I remember one moment last night, where instead of Rondo pulling up for an open 10 foot (a guess) jumper, he continued to go inside where there was no room, resulting in a turnover. Hey, if he's passing up open 3's at this point in his career, fine, but passing up bunny jumpers hurts the entire offense, because opposing teams pretty much know he doesn't want to take the jumper.

I don't think he's that far away from it, it's sneaking into his game.

I suppose the other big hole, is that horrible free throw. I know that Ray is our best free throw shooter, but frankly he's not our best ball handler, and at the end of the game the ball should be in Rondos hands. It's not, because he can't hit the FT's.

When a PG has a couple of significant components, jumper and FT, where he is one of the worst at his position, they need to be factored in with all the things he does well.
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Post#7 » by Truthiracy » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:12 pm

Well he's entitled to his opinion, why are you taking that opinion so personal? Rondo is overrated, but even that is irrelevant. Why waste emotions on that?
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Post#8 » by Gant » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:27 pm

Rondo is generally rated a borderline all star- pretty close to making the event. He probably won't make it this year, but he'll make it in the future. He's rated just about right.
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Post#9 » by MyInsatiableOne » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:13 pm

BakersDozen wrote:come on guys. its not like Parker has the best pf in the nba,a scoring 2 guard,and another scorer at the wing on his team like Rondo.... Parker really is the best!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the needle on my sarcasm detector is going wild!! :lol: :lol:
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Post#10 » by Prophet_C » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:05 pm

I actually think Rondo is underrated by fans of other teams. If you want to be enraged, go check out the Rondo thread on the GB. I'm not saying he's better than Parker because right now he isn't (although in time he'll be the better player I truly believe) but people on the GB are saying he isn't a top ten or even top 15 pg in the league???

I swear some people don't watch our games and just run their mouth. Mike Bibby over Rondo? Are you ******** kidding me?
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Post#11 » by da_truth34 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:13 pm

I got them both on my fantasy team...
But seriously Tony Parker can D.I.A.F.
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Post#12 » by tombattor » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:33 pm

I don't see why people are losing their caca here. What do you want Parker to say? I suck? He's entitled to his own opinion. And it's not that crazy for him to think that he's the 2nd best PG in the league.

I personally don't think he's the 2nd best PG in the league because I think that spot belongs to Deron Williams, but I don't think you can rank him any lower than 5. He's probably the quickest player in the league, he can handle, score and defend. Maybe you rank Devin Harris and/or Chauncey Billups ahead of him, but at this point, he's better than Nash or Kidd.
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Post#13 » by sunshinekids99 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:50 pm

Personally I think a lot of people overrate Tony Parker. While he is a nice player, he would be no where near my top 5 of point guards.
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Post#14 » by tombattor » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:10 pm

sunshinekids99 wrote:Personally I think a lot of people overrate Tony Parker. While he is a nice player, he would be no where near my top 5 of point guards.

I'm sure he's a bit overrated, since he's a high-profile guy, dating Evan Longoria and all. But I can't name 5 PGs who are better than Parker.
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Post#15 » by chakdaddy » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:48 pm

Nothing compared to the hate from GP, that was extending beyond Rondo...

I sincerely believe it's sheer jealous and sour grapes on GP's part - he wishes he were in Cassell's shoes. I'm really losing respect for him. Webber's a decent analyst though. But I miss Barkley.
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Post#16 » by sunshinekids99 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:52 pm

I'd take Paul, Williams, Nash, Billups, Harris over him, now if we are talking starting a franchise I'd have to switch. He's somewhere in the Davis, Nelson, and Rose group IMO.
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Post#17 » by campybatman » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:06 pm

I'm not taking it personal. I just feel that Parker's comments as they pertain to Rondo are off base, if not unfair. Because Rondo has an ideal situation this early in his NBA career that most don't. He's penalized for that. Why? I would be more apt to criticize a starting player surrounded with the talent and veteran leadership that Rondo has if he isn't productive. The Celtics are a better team when Rondo's on his game than the other way around. And his teammates would attest to that. No doubt, Parker's a talented point guard in this league and he has the NBA and international credential to back that assertion. However, he isn't a perennial All-Star nor do I feel that he's someone qualified to determine who's overrated and who isn't among his peers. I mean who else would've the audacity to make such comments without any real merit to say so. Talk about stating the obvious here. Yes, Rondo plays with three perennial All-Stars. Is that all you have...?

The reason why Parker's opinions don't bother me as much as a lot of you will assume based on the thread's title is because when you're a player that have the accolades over another player. Then you've the right to state your opinions to say as much like Pierce when he'd deemed himself "the best player." So? No Boston fan really took those comments by Pierce in an off the cuff interview sometime after the NBA Finals was over that seriously or out of context was because most of us knew what he was saying and the point he was making and why he could say such a thing last year.

The title's thread is meant to ask more why would Parker behave lazily and pick a so easy target to label overrated. I know who Parker is. I just believe he's wrong or could at least elaborate further on why he singled out Rondo specifically. I mean I would understand an actual player's point of view on something more than a national fan's ignorant opinions of another team's player. That's why I've respect for a player like Nash who has the foresight to see the kind of player Rondo can become and recognize the talent he possesses and can look pass who his teammates are.
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Post#18 » by UGA Hayes » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:41 pm

Says the guy who spent his first championship watching Speedy Claxton hit clutch shots in the fourth quarter.
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Post#19 » by sully00 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:36 pm

Exactly Hayes. It isn't about how good or overrated Rondo is it is the pot calling the kettle black. Who would Tony Parker be if he had gotten traded for Jason Kidd after his rookie season? Earl Watson that's who. The guy could not shoot and could defend at an NBA level till his 3rd season. Popovich made that dude.

He is a good player but he is a better player because he has one of the greatest of all time at the end of his passes and a championship team, a fact I am sure Monsieur Tim might bring up after he reads this article.
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Post#20 » by DelMonte West » Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:10 am

Prophet_C wrote:I actually think Rondo is underrated by fans of other teams. If you want to be enraged, go check out the Rondo thread on the GB. I'm not saying he's better than Parker because right now he isn't (although in time he'll be the better player I truly believe) but people on the GB are saying he isn't a top ten or even top 15 pg in the league???

I swear some people don't watch our games and just run their mouth. Mike Bibby over Rondo? Are you ******** kidding me?


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