Sheed

WHambone · Post #1 » by **WHambone** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:25 am

I've never seen a game that Rasheed Wallace has stepped it up. IMO i think he's a slightly above average player, slightly. He'll hit the occasional shot, plays adequate defense, but really does he scare anyone out there. I think he had a really good championship season and he's been coasting since then. another player in the SHeed catagory IMO is Jason Kidd. can handle the ball plays OK D but gets lost in the shuffle. I know he's in the twilight of his career but if you needed someone to take over the game he wasn't that guy. I guess I'm trying to say they're overrated.

HeroicKennedy · Post #2 » by **HeroicKennedy** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:49 am

I think you have no clue what the hell you're talking about, but that's just me.

SonicYouth34 · Post #3 » by **SonicYouth34** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:56 am

I agree with Heroic...Jason Kidd mediocre :lol:

. Next thing you'll say is KG is too

Post #4 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:14 am

Sheed will be a celtic one day. Just a gut feeling.

So I will hold off bashing him. I have no real reason to bash him either, I like him, good player.

greenbeans · Post #5 » by **greenbeans** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:00 am

I like how he air guitars to Guns n Roses before tipoff at the garden

campybatman · Post #6 » by **campybatman** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:18 am

Wallace has become Antoine Walker. That is, he prefers to play out on the perimeter rather than bang inside. And he isn't a good rebounder given his height. His career rebounding average is a mere 6.9. Only Rashard Lewis and Murphy attempt more three's than him or Nowitzki. I don't know, I don't think I want my starting power forward being a three-point shooter.

I think Wallace could work if he's playing with the second unit for Boston. He and House in the line up off the bench would be a terror for defenses. However, he needs to play along side a center with an inside presence like Perkins or Powe who'll scrap for offensive rebounds. When Ben Wallace was with Detriot, he'd that freedom to face the basket and create mismatches on offense. However, he's playing center which puts pressure on whoever is starting at power forward to rebound for the Pistons.

Triple M · Post #7 » by **Triple M** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:49 am

Sheed was the most important player for the Pistons when they won the title. Back then he gave the pistons a legit post presence but since then he has been drifting further away from the basket and so has the Pistons success. They will probably go after Boozer in the off season they are desperate for a PF.

Scalamental · Post #8 » by **Scalamental** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:07 am

I am a hardcore Celtics fan. But Rasheed Wallace could be my favorite player. He's a free agent next year, and we have 0 chance of getting him, unless we trade someone. He would do havoc coming off the bench. He'd kill any b-squad. I can imagine him doing well paired with either baby or powe. Even if he just sits on the wings on offense, we'd have someone big and experienced that's 6'11" on defense.

In response to the o.p.; Rasheed Wallace is a 6'11" Power Forward/Center that can stick the three. He has a pretty effective mid range game as well. This year, he is struggling a little bit. I know this because, he's on my fantasy team. It is hard to see him go off as a Celtic viewer because he is mostly guarded by Kevin Garnet. He played a huge part in a championship team and he's got a lot of krunk.

I don't know, what HeroicKennedy said.

BigSkyBlazerFan · Post #9 » by **BigSkyBlazerFan** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:40 am

Sheed is a great player he just might make you hold your breath sometimes.

Post #10 » by **sunshinekids99** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:51 pm

HeroicKennedy wrote:I think you have no clue what the hell you're talking about, but that's just me.

I don't think your alone on this one.

Kids Are Alright · Post #11 » by **Kids Are Alright** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:44 pm

RE the coasting Jason Kidd, triple doubles are pretty easy to come by in the NBA...

Rasheed does coast, sometimes for a whole game, sometimes for a couple of quarters, but like Mike said last night, don't let him get started, because he can do it all. i like him better than Antonio McD. (which I guess makes a lot of sense)

Dave_From_NB · Post #12 » by **Dave_From_NB** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:09 pm

Sheed can play like a superstar when he wants to, but man I hate watching guys goof off out there putting in time until the last 6 minutes of the game, which is a trait too many NBA players have. And when I see Sheed do his Antoine Walker impressions I dread the thought of watching him in a Celtics uniform. What's the Antoine Walker impression? He hit a 3 pointer, and the next time down the floor he takes a shot 6 feet beyond the arc with about 15 seconds left in the 24 clock.

I remember watching a Detroit/Toronto game last year, doing a personal scouting report on Detroit. The first quarter, Sheed didn't once go into the offensive key. Not a single time.

Maybe being here, Doc and KG would kick his ass when he is coasting, and perhaps if he was in the position of needing to earn minutes he'd stop that garbage. The man can really ball when he wants, a ton of talent.

Dogen · Post #13 » by **Dogen** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:38 pm

It looked like Sheed and KG were talking it up during the game, more as friends than trash talk. I imagine it went something like this:

KG: Watcha doin' after the ****' game, Sheed?

Sheed: Dunno, get some dinner, Chill.

KG: Cool, ****. ....How 'bout next year? Whatcha doin' then? Come get a ring with us, maybe?

cfan79 · Post #14 » by **cfan79** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:11 pm

Rasheed would be great off the bench for the C's next season. But this season we need to focus on bringing back P.J. for the rest of the year.

Post #15 » by **sully00** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:26 pm

I think Wallace was a great player if crazy before. But he looks like he has lost his passion for the game right now. He was simply awful on defense last night expecially on rotations and getting to the glass, since they deal Billups it is like he feels the FO gave up on the season and so has he.

I would take McDyess over Wallace anyday he is a much more physical player. If that is what is left of Rasheed's game he is toast and we don't really have much use for him. But he is a pretty complex dude and he likely can see the writing on the wall. I just question how good he will be in an off the bench role for an MLE salary.

Post #16 » by **sully00** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:35 pm

PJ Brown is done, he was done last season. He can't get off the floor and while he did what he did in game 7 of a playoff game it was one game.

Davis is better than what PJ Brown now is. For his 15 games in Jan. Davis is shooting 48% and putting up 7/4 as well as shooting 85% from the FT line.

I think if we add a big we need to add someone real big.

humblebum · Post #17 » by **humblebum** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:21 pm

I tend to look at the Sheed situation much like Sully, but I'd put greater emphasis on the point that Rasheed just looks at the Iverson-Billups trade as a white-flag from management. I mean, in my mind that trade instantly made the Pistons non-competitive in terms of competing for the ECF crown, Sheed is definitely the type of guy who wouldn't take well to a situation like that.

But in Boston, I believe Sheed would fit extremely, extremely well. Perk, KG, Davis/Powe would be really nice fits alongside Sheed. Doc would be an ideal coach for Sheed and the overall team passion and attitude is very conducive to a motivated Sheed. If he's willing to take the MLE it's hard to imagine there is a better guy out there then Sheed. I'd love to have him in green, even though I don't much care for some of his antics.

I also agree re: PJ Brown. Off the court he'd be great but I just don't think he really brings much beside that that Davis can't already bring. Maybe the FO looks at PJ as a more reliable option though and that would be reason enough to bring him in, but I'm not holding my breath. I still believe that if the Celtics are able to acquire Marbury, they may not "need" to go out and get another big. I think with Marbury-House's scoring in the backcourt and the diverse skills of Scals-Davis-Powe the Celtics would have enough off the bench to complement the best starting five in the NBA.

Hemingway · Post #18 » by **Hemingway** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:53 pm

I disagree with whoever said we have 0 chance of getting Sheed. First of all you almost never have a 0 chance of anything. Secondly he is not going to want to return to Detroit and is playing himself out of another big contract. An MLE offer could be a great deal for him is if is for a few years. 5 mil might be below his worth right now but above it in 2-3 years. 4 years 20 mil, that sounds good. He will pick up KGs intensity just like Rondo has, just like Perk has. He can come off the bench and be inserted into the starting line up if anyone but Rondo (and I guess realisticly Allen too) goes down. I think it is just as likely that he comes here next year than that he does not.

Dirty Water · Post #19 » by **Dirty Water** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:06 pm

Sheed doesn't want to be in Detroit anymore it's obvious. I said in the other thread that I am almost banking on him signing with the Spurs for next year, not with Boston. That's a very scary scenario if I do say so.

cfan79 · Post #20 » by **cfan79** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:21 pm

sully00 wrote:PJ Brown is done, he was done last season. He can't get off the floor and while he did what he did in game 7 of a playoff game it was one game.

Davis is better than what PJ Brown now is. For his 15 games in Jan. Davis is shooting 48% and putting up 7/4 as well as shooting 85% from the FT line.

I think if we add a big we need to add someone real big.

He'd help this team where they need it off the bench with height, vet presence and most importantly IQ. I love Baby and Powe, but we need to cover our asses. Ilgauskas will have his way with either young guy.