More reason to think Marbury won't play this season

[campybatman]

I think Fisher's comments are telling. I'm not in a position to say who's right or wrong in this. However, I can't help but to feel that this stalemate is driven by Marbury's stubbornness. I don't think either side should be perceived as a victim here. Yes, it's unfortunate... But, I sense both sides are content with this standstill. And that's what seems unusual.

I'm not convinced he'll play again this season and I've thought this for most of the season to this point. There's no evidence to suggest that he will... Funny, no one apparently misses him, though. Marbury has himself to thank for that.

"It's just more unfortunate more than anything," said Fisher. "It definitely seems like there is a resolution other than the one that is taking place right now. But it seems like more steps are needed to just giving or be willing to sacrifice enough to make something happen. I just think it's going to stay at a standstill for now."

Asked if he sees any resolution on the horizon, Fisher said, "Not that I can tell. It seems like the team is content to stand in this position. It sounds tough to pay a guy as much as Steph is due to make this year and basically ask him to stay away. Unless Steph is willing to take a significant amount lower than what he's owed for the year, I don't know at this point in the season if anything is going to really give.

"We're more than halfway through the season and the team has already paid out over half, I'm sure, of his compensation at this point. I don't see them being in a rush to pay the other half or feel pressured to do something at this point.

"It's a tough one. It's unfortunate that he's had this much time to be away from the game. But each side has a position based on the collective bargaining agreement. So there is not technically a violation taking place at this point. They asked Steph to stay away. He agreed to stay away. It's a tough spot for everybody involved."

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... ed/?page=3

[the sea duck]

encouraging the knicks to hold marbs so he doesn't join the celtics?

[campybatman]

We'll know the answer to that by whether or not it proves true if a resolution/buyout suddenly appears imminent after the first of March. If so, then this proves that New York sandbagged Marbury. After the first, he becomes ineligible for a playoff roster. No team would want him. But, Marbury's seemingly indifference on his immediate future leads one to believe that he's done with the NBA and might already be looking toward playing overseas. Hey, if that how he wants to end his legacy in the league, so be it.

[return2glory]

The Knicks would be stupid not to wait the extra two weeks(trade the deadlline to 3/1) to but him out. They would buy him out after 3/1, where he would not be eligible for the playoffs. There is no advantage for the Knicks to buy Marbury out before March 1. Marbury is being stubborn and the Knicks are trying to screw him as well.

[Jammer]

kiddies:

I - There will be no buyout after March 1. It's pay Steph off in full after that date.

2 - Steph is the one without an agent. Ostensibly because he doesn't want to pay a commission,
in reality because he hates being told the truth (Every meeting with an agent starts off with
"Why are you such a knucklehead ... ?"

3 - Writing about it all here won't change a thing.
---- Knicks last position is they want a $2 million giveback.

---- Steph has offered $1 million less AND offered
---- to not to appeal his salary loss from a 2 game suspension.

4- Someone has to move. If there is no movement, there is no buyout.

5- Obviously the Knicks would like to save something. There is no incentive for them to get anything done before the trade deadline, Steph would have to make the first move.

6 - If Steph doesn't make the first move, Knicks, worst case, will likely accept Steph's offer
LATE FEBRUARY, saving $1.4 million salary and $1.4 million in luxury tax.

The ramification of step 6 is the Celtics can't factor in getting Marbury signed into any moves they might make before the trade deadline.

Goodnight, Kiddies.

[MyInsatiableOne]

encouraging the knicks to hold marbs so he doesn't join the celtics?

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking...

Like we should believe Fisher...he's the one who stabbed the Jazz in the back by retiring due to his daughter's illness (glad she's OK, by the way) so they voided the rest of his contract...and then a few months later he miraculously comes out of retirement and signs with the Lakers...****!

[kevin_405]

U guys want Marbury at a bottom dollar... how fair is that on the knicks.. Why dont u guys do a deal with the knicks for the remainder of his salary.. Then u see a trade materialize for sure..

If i were the the knicks i would do the exact same thing..
Keep him sitting on the bench or force him to come off the bench.. This buyout biz is crazy..

NBA has this rare precedence "Get paid to work for a competitor"..

encouraging the knicks to hold marbs so he doesn't join the celtics?

[Allanon]

The Knicks have absolutely no incentive to buy out Marbury. He's only willing to come down a million, so the Knicks still have to pay him for most of the season.

This is all on Marbury. If he wants to play for a contender, he needs to take a massive paycut. If he's not budging, why should the Knicks?

The Knicks, as it is right now are going to have to pay a full salary to Marbury, why pay him and help him get to a division rival?

Make no mistake of it, Marbury's money this year is more important to him than a championship or his future career. He's "gettin' paid".

[BillTheGOAT]

The Knicks have absolutely no incentive to buy out Marbury. He's only willing to come down a million, so the Knicks still have to pay him for most of the season.

This is all on Marbury. If he wants to play for a contender, he needs to take a massive paycut. If he's not budging, why should the Knicks?

The Knicks, as it is right now are going to have to pay a full salary to Marbury, why pay him and help him get to a division rival?

Make no mistake of it, Marbury's money this year is more important to him than a championship or his future career. He's "gettin' paid".

maybe, but he doesn't need a league rival in fisher to concince him to stay, so he doesn't join celtics, you mentioned not help him go to a division rival, but convincing him to stay is like the knicks doesn't want to send him to celtics, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" ... fisher is acting fishy, something smells fishy in here...

[campybatman]

Make no mistake of it, Marbury's money this year is more important to him than a championship or his future career. He's "gettin' paid".

At one time, I was convinced he would end up with the Lakers. I thought that it was odd that Marbury was invited by the owner's daughter to a game. Apparently, he and her are friends. Their friendship isn't odd but the timing of this is suspicious.

[Fencer reregistered]

encouraging the knicks to hold marbs so he doesn't join the celtics?

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking...

Like we should believe Fisher...he's the one who stabbed the Jazz in the back by retiring due to his daughter's illness (glad she's OK, by the way) so they voided the rest of his contract...and then a few months later he miraculously comes out of retirement and signs with the Lakers...****!

He doesn't have the time to play in a city not of his choosing ... but he does have time for his union job.

[MyInsatiableOne]

^^Good point...

[sully00]

Lets not rip Fisher for giving up guaranteed money and trying to move to a place to get better medical care for his child you sound like heathens.

The Knicks have no reason to do anything until the deadline and till then Steph has no reason to step on any toes. After that he doesn't have to stay away and not be a distraction and my guess he won't. In the end it will come done to what it is worth to everyone involved.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

encouraging the knicks to hold marbs so he doesn't join the celtics?

Like we should believe Fisher...he's the one who stabbed the Jazz in the back by retiring due to his daughter's illness (glad she's OK, by the way) so they voided the rest of his contract...and then a few months later he miraculously comes out of retirement and signs with the Lakers...****!

Dude, he never retired. The Jazz voided his contract so he could look for places to get his daughter better medical treatment. And it's not like Utah ever implied that they'd release him from his contract, so long as he didn't sign with a division rival. Just a real classy move by Utah IMO.

[MyInsatiableOne]

OK but still, gee whiz the ONLY place to get that high level of care was LA, huh?

Classy for the Jazz, sure, but not necessarily for Fisher...

And no, I'm not a heartless SOB...

[aboubata]

OK but still, gee whiz the ONLY place to get that high level of care was LA, huh?

Classy for the Jazz, sure, but not necessarily for Fisher...

And no, I'm not a heartless SOB...

Dude, it was an agreement that he would go to the LA or another city (forgot which one) and it really really would make sense for him to go to the Lakers, since they knew him and he knew their system.


As for Marbury, I could tell you this much, the CELTICS owners are backing up the Knicks owners on this one.
This about it like this, every player that was released end up with way less than what he was owned, but Starbury doesn't want that, he wants to screw the knicks. If this catches on with all the players, then the owners would have to pay all guarenteed contracts.

I think they should be liable for it so every organization would think twice before offering contracts or trading for players.

[sully00]

OK but still, gee whiz the ONLY place to get that high level of care was LA, huh?

Classy for the Jazz, sure, but not necessarily for Fisher...

And no, I'm not a heartless SOB...

New York and LA I believe I want to say she has cancer in her eye that may make her go blind. He asked them to void a contract worth over 6 mil knowing he couldn't get that much in FA. The Lakers also appeared to be imploding when he re-signed there with Kobe demanding a trade. But if you want to pick on the baby girl with cancers daddy be my guest.

[campybatman]

Actually, I recall reading, that Antoine Walker got the majority of his end salary from Memphis in his buyout.

[MyInsatiableOne]

OK but still, gee whiz the ONLY place to get that high level of care was LA, huh?

Classy for the Jazz, sure, but not necessarily for Fisher...

And no, I'm not a heartless SOB...

New York and LA I believe I want to say she has cancer in her eye that may make her go blind. He asked them to void a contract worth over 6 mil knowing he couldn't get that much in FA. The Lakers also appeared to be imploding when he re-signed there with Kobe demanding a trade. But if you want to pick on the baby girl with cancers daddy be my guest.

Dude, I have nothing against the child, I wish her nothing but the best and I remember being very sad and concerned when hearing about this a couple years ago. I just still think it's rather suspicious Fisher magically ended up back in LA...

[sully00]

MyInsatiableOne

I am just busting your balls man.

Chris Broussard said on Coast to Coast that his sources tell him Marbs will not be made available to teams for the playoffs, but Joe Smith likely will one way or another after the deadline. Don't have any idea how reliable he is and there are obviously so many borderline individuals involved in this situation who the hell knows.