Will Rondo average 9apg for the year??

ddb · Post #1 » by **ddb** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:46 pm

What an amazing triple double from our man Rondo in last nights win in Dallas. Pierce and Rondo were terrific. After that performance it got me thinking...Will Rondo finish the season averaging 9APG??? He's currently at 8.5.

What do you guys think? And when was the last time a Celtics point guard averaged 9 assist per game? It's been a long time.

rambo_ortega · Post #2 » by **rambo_ortega** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:57 pm

i think he will. he's been getting better as the season goes by. only him and paul are in top 5 of both steals and assists. the future is bright coz he's becoming an elite pg.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #3 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:26 pm

When Rondo's head is in the game and he plays in control, nights like last night happen... :clap:

Keep it up, Rajon...and oh yeah, LEARN TO **** SHOOT!

GuyClinch · Post #4 » by **GuyClinch** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:32 pm

Probably. But Rondo still won't get the media's love until he accomplishes something after the big 3 retire or get traded away. That's kinda cold but the Tony Parkers of the world think Rondo is on easy street.

I wonder if he will top Sherm Douglas 9.5 assists per game number. Not many fans here remember him but he put up like 12 points and 9.5 assists with us back in the day. Rondo could learn a thing or two from Sherm still though.. Douglas had like 1/3 of the physical talent Rondo does but a better array of layups, floaters and runners around the basket..

Bad-Thoma · Post #5 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:39 pm

He's been on a slow, steady climb basically the whole year in his assists, averaging 6 in 2 games in Oct, 7.1 in 16 games in Nov, 8.3 in 15 games in Dec, 9.3 in 15 games in Jan, and 10.9 in 7 games in Feb. I think he has an outside shot at 10 apg on the season, but should definitely make 9 if the team stays healthy.
Rondo's games/assists per game/assists to TO ratio by month
Oct 2/6/2.4
Nov 16/7.1/3.8
Dec 15/8.3/2.8
Jan 15/9.3/3.3
Feb 7/10.9/2.9

He's stayed around the 3-1 assist to turnover mark all season, but drastically improved in overall assists each month. Considering he's gone from 5.1 last season to 8.5 apg this season and turns only 23 on Feb 22 I think we've got a lot to look forward to. Even if his shot has a long way to go, it has improved drastically already. Considering his 50.3 fg% mark on the season, it's hard to worry too much about how quickly his jump shot comes along, he's obviously working well within his abilities in the meantime. When and if that shot does gain some consistency.... look out league.

AlCelticFan · Post #6 » by **AlCelticFan** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:39 pm

Tony Parker is the pot calling the kettle black.

ddb · Post #7 » by **ddb** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:41 pm

Last time I checked the "Tony Parkers" of the world have the "Tim Duncans" and "Manus" of the world which IMO have been the best trio of the decade. So that comment doesn't make any sense.

i remember Sherm. He played for lousy teams so that 9.5 number is hard to compare to Rondo..but WOW i didn't realize Sherm had that type of season statistically for us.
Stats are overrated IMO. Dana Barros averaged over 20ppg in Philly on a lousy Sixers squad and he wasn't anything special.
If Rondo hits 9apg that will really impress me. Especially with how Pierce, KG, and Ray dominate the ball often times. Rondo does a great job getting everyone involved and keeping everyone happy.

Bad-Thoma · Post #8 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:48 pm

GuyClinch wrote:Probably. But Rondo still won't get the media's love until he accomplishes something after the big 3 retire or get traded away. That's kinda cold but the Tony Parkers of the world think Rondo is on easy street.

I wonder if he will top Sherm Douglas 9.5 assists per game number. Not many fans here remember him but he put up like 12 points and 9.5 assists with us back in the day. Rondo could learn a thing or two from Sherm still though.. Douglas had like 1/3 of the physical talent Rondo does but a better array of layups, floaters and runners around the basket..

I agree with the media love part, playing in the shadow of the big 3 kind of keeps the outide world from seeing how good Rondo is, though he has started to see some recognition. As for Tony Parker and his thinking Rondo is on easy street, playing alongside Timmeh and Manu on a veteran team is no chopped liver either. He should stick to balling (Eva Longoria) and shut his mouth.

Triple M · Post #9 » by **Triple M** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:13 pm

Rondo has avg 11.32 ppg, 9.82 apg, 6 rpg, 1.64 spg over his last 22 games
Rondo's progression this year reminds me of Al Jefferson's last season here in the way he is getting better month per month.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #10 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:13 pm

GuyClinch wrote:I wonder if he will top Sherm Douglas 9.5 assists per game number. Not many fans here remember him but he put up like 12 points and 9.5 assists with us back in the day. Rondo could learn a thing or two from Sherm still though.. Douglas had like 1/3 of the physical talent Rondo does but a better array of layups, floaters and runners around the basket..

Loved the Little General!! Sherm Douglas is the reason why Larry Bird soured on the franchise. Bird thought he was the best competitor the team had at the time, and was ticked off when they traded him for Todd **** Day.

GreenDreamer · Post #11 » by **GreenDreamer** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:30 pm

If Rondo does get his average up to 9 per game, he will have the second best assist average in team history, sandwiced in between Cousy's two best seasons

http://www.basketball-reference.com/tea ... eason.html

I am fully aware that Cooz would have had more if the rules were the way they are today, but then again he also benefitted from the insane pace of the old game. I figure that you could add about 2 per game to his numbers and that would be about right.

What is important is that Rondo would still be seond only to Bob, and that is saying something considering the rich history of this team, and the quality of player we have had at that position here. Factor in that Rondo has the ball taken out of his hands A LOT, and getting there would be impressive.

The kid is a GREAT passer. Take last night's game, for example. He and Paul ran that screen play again and again, and what allowed that to happen was the threat Rondo posed coming off of the pick, with regards to penetration and playmaking, and his tremendous ability to put that lob pass were ONLY Paul could catch it, yet so that Paul could handle it with ease EVERY time. The Mavs quickly learned, after a couple of failed attempts at stealing the ball, that though it LOOKED like it could be stolen that it could not be. That was not an easy pass to make once, yet Rondo made it many times down the stretch. He didn't get assists for many of them, but Paul couldn't have done what he did without Rondo setting him up like that. If you noticed, when Paul tried to take the ball down himself it didn't work out.

GuyClinch · Post #12 » by **GuyClinch** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:55 pm

That is something..he needs to top 8.8. I think he will do it sooner or later. What's interesting about the C's is that they had alot of scoring points despite the fanbases lust for pass first PG's like Rondo.

It's also funny how Rondo can make such accurate passes and yet shoot 63% from the foul line. <g>

GreenDreamer · Post #13 » by **GreenDreamer** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:01 pm

GuyClinch wrote:That is something..he needs to top 8.8. I think he will do it sooner or later. What's interesting about the C's is that they had alot of scoring points despite the fanbases lust for pass first PG's like Rondo.

It's also funny how Rondo can make such accurate passes and yet shoot 63% from the foul line. <g>

Sometimes I wish that I'd actually meet the kid andbe able to tell him

"Just pretend that you are passing it into the basket"

Dirty Water · Post #14 » by **Dirty Water** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:06 pm

GreenDreamer wrote:
GuyClinch wrote:That is something..he needs to top 8.8. I think he will do it sooner or later. What's interesting about the C's is that they had alot of scoring points despite the fanbases lust for pass first PG's like Rondo.

It's also funny how Rondo can make such accurate passes and yet shoot 63% from the foul line. <g>

Sometimes I wish that I'd actually meet the kid andbe able to tell him

"Just pretend that you are passing it into the basket"

He'll get better. He hasn't made the jump yet this year in that facet but he eventually will. It's got to be those lanky arms that force such terrible ergonomics while floating up a large object.

EDIT: To be honest the FT shooting has me the most worried. You can fake around the fact you don't have a solid jumper. But - you can't weasel your way into a layup or a pass for an open 3 from the FT line.

Post #15 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:10 am

Well, he'll have to average 10.11 assists per game just to get to 9 APG, assuming he plays all 82. To get to 10, he needs to average 13.44. He's got a really slim chance at 9, and 10 is just absurd.

campybatman · Post #16 » by **campybatman** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:17 am

I'm impressed by Rondo's assist totals from game to game. But, Duhon is currently averaging 8.0 per game. That ranks him ahead of other starting point guards such as Harris, Parker and Rose. But, he wasn't talked about for the All-Star game as were the aforementioned players. Although, I don't want to imply that he deserved to be talked about. I'm just saying... It's amazing given the state of New York that Duhon is presently one of only five starting point guards totaling over four hundred assists for the season to date. I understand Deron Williams has missed games. But, every time I check the assist averages, I continue to be surprised to see Duhon's name ranked that high. Either it's New York's new system under D'Antoni or they got a bargain in a player.

His overall statistics are best comparable to Nelson and M. Williams who both made the All-Star game. Harris scores more than him.

Kefa461 · Post #17 » by **Kefa461** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:58 pm

His APG for now is fine he needs to work on his tweener jumper and his FT's.....to answer your post question imo no......close but no cigar...maybe next season 8-)

wigglestrue · Post #18 » by **wigglestrue** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:22 pm

Either it's New York's new system under D'Antoni or they got a bargain in a player.

The former.

GuyClinch · Post #19 » by **GuyClinch** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:56 pm

Meh. Duhon was always pretty good if not that flashy.

AlCelticFan · Post #20 » by **AlCelticFan** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:31 pm

bonsaiflipflops wrote:I'm impressed by Rondo's assist totals from game to game. But, Duhon is currently averaging 8.0 per game. That ranks him ahead of other starting point guards such as Harris, Parker and Rose. But, he wasn't talked about for the All-Star game as were the aforementioned players. Although, I don't want to imply that he deserved to be talked about. I'm just saying... It's amazing given the state of New York that Duhon is presently one of only five starting point guards totaling over four hundred assists for the season to date. I understand Deron Williams has missed games. But, every time I check the assist averages, I continue to be surprised to see Duhon's name ranked that high. Either it's New York's new system under D'Antoni or they got a bargain in a player.

His overall statistics are best comparable to Nelson and M. Williams who both made the All-Star game. Harris scores more than him.

But the Knicks play many more possessions. Rondo would average more assists on the Knicks for certain.