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The more and more I think about it being Marbury wasn’t a bad move but it wasn’t the move that is going to put us over the top. If we have to face Cleveland in the play-offs I think the Cavs will win. The reason why we got away without having a true backup PG behind Rondo last season was due to the fact that we wasn’t going to face a team that had a pg who could kills us. I know we play the Piston with Chauncey but I think over the course of last season we’ve proven that we were a much better team then Pistons. So when the play-offs came it was no surprise that the Piston series was the easies play-off series they Cs had. The key to last season play-off run had to do with the fact that the Cs had 4 legit bodies to throw at Lebron and Kobe. With Paul, Ray, Posey and Tony it give Kobe and Lebron different look every time the touch the ball. We also had 24 fouls we could use on them. This season we don’t have that, right now we only have Paul and Ray Allen and if they get into foul trouble were looking at Scal, Marbury and Eddie House to cover those two??????? I like the move to get Marbury and I like to move to get Mikki Moore but those two addition didn’t address the issues when it come to facing the Cavs and that slowing down Lebron James. I don’t even want to talk about the Lakers because we have to get past the Cavs in order to even face the Lakers again this season. This team needs a backup sg/sf that can play defense and knock down shoots. So I guess what I’m saying is that this team still needs James Posey.

If a defensive minded 3 is cut or bought out by a team I would definitely be interested. But I doubt that will happen.

Still, someone like Bonzi Wells or Patterson could also help fill that void. I say cut Pruitt ans sign a SF.

what your saying is true....but the bottomline is...we decided not to resign Posey.

There was no posey to get, unless we went with darius miles...but hes no posey.

we do still lack a posey like player off the bench, but theres nothing we can do at this point to fix that. and i'm not sure there was ever anything we could have done to fix that. Unless we resigned Posey, but we didn't......we have to hope that Marbury can play like Starbury light, maybe that will negate the loss of posey just a little.

No, because if we had James Posey with this years team we'd be a better team then last year.

Rondo is better in his role this year, and so is Ray Allen.

Last year we had Cassell or house Playing the backup Point. With House we lost all tempo, with Cassell we had an over the hill player jacking up shots no matter whoes on the court.

But yes we also had Posey [I don't think Tony got many minutes].

This year we'll have House playing SG, and a selfish stupid talented player in Marbury jacking up shots no matter who is on the court as well as not losing tempo. But we won't have Posey.

for bigs it's a similar situation, last year we could guard centers with Pj Brown, but for the most part he couldn't release a shot as well as Miki or run free for layups. So we have a superior offensive abilities in their role instead of superior defensive abilities.

Overall we got better by a made up number like 3 points on offense and worse on defense by 4 points... that still could be enough to beat CLE and LA as currently constituted.

Matt34520 wrote:what your saying is true....but the bottomline is...we decided not to resign Posey.

There was no posey to get, unless we went with darius miles...but hes no posey.

we do still lack a posey like player off the bench, but theres nothing we can do at this point to fix that. and i'm not sure there was ever anything we could have done to fix that. Unless we resigned Posey, but we didn't......we have to hope that Marbury can play like Starbury light, maybe that will negate the loss of posey just a little.

I'd still rather have Miles than TA at the backup 3...or both...

TA didn't play much in the playoffs at all. So we were really only using Posey and Paul.

celticfan42487 wrote:No, because if we had James Posey with this years team we'd be a better team then last year.

Rondo is better in his role this year, and so is Ray Allen.

Last year we had Cassell or house Playing the backup Point. With House we lost all tempo, with Cassell we had an over the hill player jacking up shots no matter whoes on the court.

But yes we also had Posey [I don't think Tony got many minutes].

This year we'll have House playing SG, and a selfish stupid talented player in Marbury jacking up shots no matter who is on the court as well as not losing tempo. But we won't have Posey.

for bigs it's a similar situation, last year we could guard centers with Pj Brown, but for the most part he couldn't release a shot as well as Miki or run free for layups. So we have a superior offensive abilities in their role instead of superior defensive abilities.

Overall we got better by a made up number like 3 points on offense and worse on defense by 4 points... that still could be enough to beat CLE and LA as currently constituted.

I disagree with you because this team won last season because it was a great defensive team. The Celtics as it stand is good enought to beat every team in the league during the regular season. However I think there are two team that I feel can beat the Cs in the play-offs and that would be the Lakers and Cavs. One the matchup that can hurt us is if Paul Pierce was to get two cheap early fouls on Lebron we don't have a James Posey to come of the bench to help slow down Lebron who is much better this season then he was last season with a much better supporting case. All I'm saying is that it took us 7 games to finish off the Cavs last season with 4 bodies to throw at Lebron right now we only have 1 and half bodies to throw at him because I don't think Ray Allen is going to be able to do a great job on Lebron nor will he be ask to guard him. So that leaves us with only Paul Pierce as someone who can try to slow down Lebron James. I guess I'm addressing a problem before he even happens but that is something Danny Ainge should have done this off season.

Bill Walker.

The guy needs to get some court time now. He's capable of playing in the roatation, he should be getting some of TA's and Scal's minutes. He should be force fed some minutes right now.

Walker shows so much potential defensively, and I think he has the strength, speed and attitude to cover LeBron for short periods of time.

MyInsatiableOne wrote:

Matt34520 wrote:what your saying is true....but the bottomline is...we decided not to resign Posey.

There was no posey to get, unless we went with darius miles...but hes no posey.

we do still lack a posey like player off the bench, but theres nothing we can do at this point to fix that. and i'm not sure there was ever anything we could have done to fix that. Unless we resigned Posey, but we didn't......we have to hope that Marbury can play like Starbury light, maybe that will negate the loss of posey just a little.

I'd still rather have Miles than TA at the backup 3...or both...

I know what you mean. they probably should have kept Miles...

Bill Walker also hasn't lost a game that he's played in this season

Ced wrote:Walker shows so much potential defensively, and I think he has the strength, speed and attitude to cover LeBron for short periods of time.

99% of the league can't cover Lebron. And I'm positive that Bill Walker won't be in that 1% either.

Let's face it folks - James Posey ain't walkin through that door. Denis Rodman ain't walkin through that door. Neither is Scottie Pippen. Again, there aren't too many people who can stop Lebron by themselves. Fortunately, the Celts are the best equipped team to stop him due to their team defense. Picking up a player to stop Lebron would be akin to the Cavs picking up the Jordan Stopper, Gerald Wilkins back in '93.

Of course you are right...I think about this all year, sure Marbury is great player, Moore ok...but what about sf spot...

The key is not so much defense because when James will play Pierce will be on him, but the thing is this match up for Pierce is so hard and wears him down that on the end of the game or lest say in 6th or 7th game he will have problem on offense, hitting clutch shots.

I know James Posey isn't walking through that door. My point is Danny Ainge hasn't replace James Posey spot on the team. Many of us will say James Posey was a big part in why we won last season. Because we had James Posey it allowed Paul Pierce to play all out on defense and also rest during the regular season so he could be fresh during the play-offs. Without James Posey last season I don't think Paul Pierce would have been as effective in the play-offs on the offensive side of the ball. I think Danny had done a good guy in filling that back up PG roll buy going after Marbury. I think he might have found a replacement for PJ Brown in Mikki Moore. But the one issue that still remains is they haven't filled the place of James Posey. They thought Tony Allen would be that guy and he hasn't.

Do people forget (read: try to forget) that Tony Allen is still on this roster? I mean, whatever your opinion of Tony Allen he's more than likely the best of a bunch of poor to mediocre options. Bonzi Wells? He's not even capable of defending. Ruben Patterson? Come on now, one crazy person is enough. Tony is a solid defensive player, that's accounting for highs and lows in his performance. He makes some spectacular plays and he's still supremely scrappy but he also blows assignments and wiffs on steal attempts and bites on upfakes. I'd say that in general he tends to strike a balance between making plays and screwing plays up. The thing is ultimately that he can "physically compete" with Lebron and Kobe and Wade. He can make those guys work and if you limit his role offensively and surround him with shooters (Read: Marbury, House, Davis, Moore on the second unit or a mix and match of our better shooting starters and bench players) and many of his weaknesses begin to get covered up.

I'm sure that Danny and Doc are evaluating Tony's health, if they really think he won't be effective come playoff time, they'll scour the waiver wire and see whats out there, which truly isn't much IMO. But I believe that Tony will be back for the playoffs and I'll role with him there, I believe in his talent and I think Marbury will help Tony to be more effective.

If we play Cleveland and LA, it will most likely be in the conference finals and finals. TA should be healthy by then and ready to give us spot minutes defending Lebron/Kobe. Hopefully he can come back a few games before the regular season ends so that he can shake some of the rust off. I would have liked for us to try out Bill Walker for a few games as part of the rotation and see what he can do, but Doc doesn't trust playing Bill during a regular season game against the Clippers, he surely wont play him during a playoff game against Lebron.

Well, I'm sure Doc is counting on Tony Allen coming back. He values Tony's role on the team and doesn't even considering filling that void with Walker, because as you say Doc doesn't believe that he's ready. And I agree with him. Tony is probably the most under appreciated (Read: Scapegoat) on the team now. It used to be Davis but he's really turned a corner, Tony has taken up the mantel.

TA has been a flat-out dumb player who has had sustained stretches of really good play....I hope he can cut down on the former and have more of the latter...

Let the dust settle.....not 1 game has been played yet.....time will tell.

LBJ is hard to guard. Pierce, Allen and Allen is a better trio than most teams out there. KG and Rondo are great defensive players who can help a bit when LBJ gets in the lane. We have a lot more offense this season too.

I can't wait until the Cs play the Cavs again. That game will tell me about and I hope I'm wrong but if Paul Pierce gets into foul trouble this year vs the Cavs we might be in trouble. Because we will have nobody who will slow down Lebron from getting to the hoop and Lebron alone can get our whole front court into foul trouble. It's going to take a good team defensive effort to get past the Cavs. I hope a team like Orlando can finish them off before we even have a chance of facing them in the play-offs so the Cs really need homecourt. I know it sounds like I think the Cavs will be the Cs in tha play-offs but I'm going to keep it real. The Cavs have improve as a team and Lebron has improve as a player. The Celtics guy all accounts have stayed the course. With and improves Cavs team who may have home court advantage over us I would have to say the Cavs would be favorite to win. I hope I'm wrong really I do but if we had the Cavs roster and the Cavs had our roster I think we all would feel the same way.