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“I know when we get back full strength that everybody’s going to be in trouble, but right now it is what it is and we’ve just got to play through it.”



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Kefa461 wrote:“I know when we get back full strength that everybody’s going to be in trouble, but right now it is what it is and we’ve just got to play through it.”



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Pierce must be delusional. He needs to watch some Cavs and Lakers games. The only ones I see in trouble are us unfortunately.

I agree with Pierce, people are gonna overlook the C's going into the playoffs and it'll be to their detriment...

First off nobody is going to over look the Celtics in the play-offs because they are the Champs. 2nd even if they are healthy I don't see them beating the Cavs this season. Last years Celtics team is better then this current team. I think most of us would agree with that. Now it took the Celtics two Paul Pierce free throws in game 7 to get pass a Cavs team that isn't as good as this current Cavs team. So you take those two things and I would have to say the Cavs should beat the Cs this season in the play-offs. The Cavs are a much better team then they was last year and this time around they will have home court. I'll tell you this I watch most of that Cavs/Orlando game and the refs gave the Cavs all the calls toward the end of that game. The Celtics can't even get calls in Chicago let alone in Cleveland.

"It is what it is"--the grumpy master coach from Foxboro has contributed just a little to the fortitude of sports stars throughout New England.

cloverleaf wrote:"It is what it is"--the grumpy master coach from Foxboro has contributed just a little to the fortitude of sports stars throughout New England.

Yep...he knows a little somethin' about winning, too, doesn't he?

DieselCeltic wrote:

Kefa461 wrote:“I know when we get back full strength that everybody’s going to be in trouble, but right now it is what it is and we’ve just got to play through it.”



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Pierce must be delusional. He needs to watch some Cavs and Lakers games. The only ones I see in trouble are us unfortunately.

Yeah man. We beat Cleveland without KG, and then they barely slide by Orlando. Meanwhile LA loses at home to the 76ers, and we almost pull one out on the road with TWO BIG MEN and we're in trouble? Get the **** outta here.

^I think both games said a lot...the ORL game because we played like **** in that one and they STILL barely beat us. We played a pretty damn good game against CLE and they played their game (which I still don't like) and had the refs in their pockets (probably literally as well as figuratively) and still lost...

MyInsatiableOne wrote:^I think both games said a lot...the ORL game because we played like **** in that one and they STILL barely beat us. We played a pretty damn good game against CLE and they played their game (which I still don't like) and had the refs in their pockets (probably literally as well as figuratively) and still lost...

Yup! And that is why I'm still confident that the Celts are the best team in the league. Let the haters hate all they want. All it does is make more bulletin board material for the champs.

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DieselCeltic wrote:

Kefa461 wrote:“I know when we get back full strength that everybody’s going to be in trouble, but right now it is what it is and we’ve just got to play through it.”



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Pierce must be delusional. He needs to watch some Cavs and Lakers games. The only ones I see in trouble are us unfortunately.

Yeah man. We beat Cleveland without KG, and then they barely slide by Orlando. Meanwhile LA loses at home to the 76ers, and we almost pull one out on the road with TWO BIG MEN and we're in trouble? Get the **** outta here.

You beating us without KG holds no merit because we've beaten you without West and Z.

When healthy you guys will be the true returning NBA Champs, no team will over look that, believe me. The problem is that the Celtics players have accepted poor play being the norm and have used injuries as a crutch (and rightfully so, you guys are missing alot of guys).

The other contenders have suffered injuries as well. However they have not allowed injuries to be an excuse for poor play. Poor, lazy play should not be allowed by any contender and it DEFINITELY should not be allowed by the franchise player of the Champs. I rooted for you guys against LA and it's sickening to see 1) So many players going down and 2) that your team is making excuses and "allowing" poor play. Why not fight for home court? With a little more effort you guys would not have not have lost most of the games you have lost due to injury. Why "accept" having to go through the toughest path possible to an NBA title?

What if when you guys get healthy the poor play continues? This is of course assuming that when your players come back they are completely healthy and are still in NBA shape. At that point would injuries still be the cause since the seeds for lackadaisical play are being planted now, or would the culprit be a lack of effort?

infinite11285 wrote:
You beating us without KG holds no merit because we've beaten you without West and Z.

When healthy you guys will be the true returning NBA Champs, no team will over look that, believe me. The problem is that the Celtics players have accepted poor play being the norm and have used injuries as a crutch (and rightfully so, you guys are missing alot of guys).

The other contenders have suffered injuries as well. However they have not allowed injuries to be an excuse for poor play. Poor, lazy play should not be allowed by any contender and it DEFINITELY should not be allowed by the franchise player of the Champs. I rooted for you guys against LA and it's sickening to see 1) So many players going down and 2) that your team is making excuses and "allowing" poor play. Why not fight for home court? With a little more effort you guys would not have not have lost most of the games you have lost due to injury. Why "accept" having to go through the toughest path possible to an NBA title?

What if when you guys get healthy the poor play continues? This is of course assuming that when your players come back they are completely healthy and are still in NBA shape. At that point would injuries still be the cause since the seeds for lackadaisical play are being planted now, or would the culprit be a lack of effort?

Your what if theory can also apply to your own team too, what if you guys do make it to the finals and lose or better yet get swept out the finals like you did against the Spurs???
Did you think about that?
You sitting here and posting like your team doesnt have problems or issues that needs to be delt with.
You fail to realize how easy your schedule has been.
Your playing sub 500 teams adn beating them by single digits.
You guys are getting a lot of love for the officials SPECIALLY AT HOME.
You have your team back healthy.
Did I mention how easy your schedule has been?

Im not a Celtics fan as you know, Im a Laker fan, but to come on here and run your mouth and claim injuires and having one of your starters that is the anchor of this team not contributing is a poor excuse, thats some balls.
Seeing how Cavs fans cried and complained so much about their losses on V and D. West being injured. Tooooooooooo Funny.

Tony speaks the truth...

And this part stuck out to me:

infinite11285 wrote:
You beating us without KG holds no merit because we've beaten you without West and Z.

So no merit, huh? We win without arguably our most valuable/best player, while you win *WITH* LeBron, missing a guard and center who, while very good, are not even All-Stars...ok...

infinite11285 wrote:
The other contenders have suffered injuries as well. However they have not allowed injuries to be an excuse for poor play. Poor, lazy play should not be allowed by any contender and it DEFINITELY should not be allowed by the franchise player of the Champs. I rooted for you guys against LA and it's sickening to see 1) So many players going down and 2) that your team is making excuses and "allowing" poor play. Why not fight for home court? With a little more effort you guys would not have not have lost most of the games you have lost due to injury. Why "accept" having to go through the toughest path possible to an NBA title?

Dude, with the ridiculous calls against us last night and the injuries, we could barely throw 5 guys out there...and we are still just barely losing games...how is that not "trying" to win? And why should we risk long-term injury to get HCA instead of being healthy heading into the playoffs? It amazes me how many people seem to think EVERY NBA CHAMP EVER had HCA in the playoffs...

TonyMontana wrote:Your what if theory can also apply to your own team too, what if you guys do make it to the finals and lose or better yet get swept out the finals like you did against the Spurs???
Did you think about that?
You sitting here and posting like your team doesnt have problems or issues that needs to be delt with.
You fail to realize how easy your schedule has been.
Your playing sub 500 teams adn beating them by single digits.
You guys are getting a lot of love for the officials SPECIALLY AT HOME.
You have your team back healthy.
Did I mention how easy your schedule has been?

Im not a Celtics fan as you know, Im a Laker fan, but to come on here and run your mouth and claim injuires and having one of your starters that is the anchor of this team not contributing is a poor excuse, thats some balls.
Seeing how Cavs fans cried and complained so much about their losses on V and D. West being injured. Tooooooooooo Funny.

What's up Tony?

At this point in the season, we've played the same teams the same amount of times as every other team in the East. We also are not healthy yet, we are still missing Ben. As far as our prblems that need to be addressed, I'm fully aware of them. We have been getting killed on the interior since Ben has gone down, when he comes back that simply won't happen.

We only beat the Clippers, Sactown, and Bucks recently by single digits at their home. Prior to that we were blowing those sub 500 teams out. We simply play better at home then on the road and that is one of our problems. We are averaging 103PPG while allowing 88PPG at home. We've beaten some very credible teams at home. On the road however we are putting up 98PPG but we are allowing 95PPG.

Other then last night, I'm not buying the ref love at home as an excuse because we are beating teams at home, on average, by 18+ points. The refs are not causing that. We simply play and shoot better on the road.

I did not post my opinion in an attempt to bait anyone or even flame the Celtics and I apologize if I came across like that. I was just saying that I've noticed lazy by the healthy Celtics and they are using the unhealthy Celtics as a reason. My point is, in my opinion, the Celtics could have won nearly every game they have lost due to injury if they played harder. That's all.

**Edit** for the record, don't put me in the same boat as those other Cavs fans. I can offer an honest opinion with wearing the wine and gold colored glasses. After saying that, I was not one of the Cavs fans complaining about Z, West, Wallace, Gibson, Pavs, AV, Kinsey, and Wally being out when they were all hurt. I still expected strong play by LeBron and I still expected him to push those other players on our team that many would consider "scrubs".

**Double Edit** I'm fully aware my "theory" can be used for my team as well. I'm no hypocrite, if we get swept in the Finals I will contribute it to a lack of effort and execution as I did during that Spurs series.

Frank Lucas wrote:First off nobody is going to over look the Celtics in the play-offs because they are the Champs. 2nd even if they are healthy I don't see them beating the Cavs this season. Last years Celtics team is better then this current team. I think most of us would agree with that. Now it took the Celtics two Paul Pierce free throws in game 7 to get pass a Cavs team that isn't as good as this current Cavs team. So you take those two things and I would have to say the Cavs should beat the Cs this season in the play-offs. The Cavs are a much better team then they was last year and this time around they will have home court. I'll tell you this I watch most of that Cavs/Orlando game and the refs gave the Cavs all the calls toward the end of that game. The Celtics can't even get calls in Chicago let alone in Cleveland.

You made some VERY good points in this post and I agree with pretty much all of them. Its a simple fact: We aren't as good as we were last season and Cleveland is better this season than they were last season...and we barely beat them last year. Now, I'm NOT saying we won't win, but I'll be very surprised if we beat Cleveland this season. They are on a roll and with the help from the officials they are getting, NO ONE will be able to beat them like that.

MyInsatiableOne wrote:Tony speaks the truth...

And this part stuck out to me:

infinite11285 wrote:
You beating us without KG holds no merit because we've beaten you without West and Z.

So no merit, huh? We win without arguably our most valuable/best player, while you win *WITH* LeBron, missing a guard and center who, while very good, are not even All-Stars...ok...

infinite11285 wrote:
The other contenders have suffered injuries as well. However they have not allowed injuries to be an excuse for poor play. Poor, lazy play should not be allowed by any contender and it DEFINITELY should not be allowed by the franchise player of the Champs. I rooted for you guys against LA and it's sickening to see 1) So many players going down and 2) that your team is making excuses and "allowing" poor play. Why not fight for home court? With a little more effort you guys would not have not have lost most of the games you have lost due to injury. Why "accept" having to go through the toughest path possible to an NBA title?

Dude, with the ridiculous calls against us last night and the injuries, we could barely throw 5 guys out there...and we are still just barely losing games...how is that not "trying" to win? And why should we risk long-term injury to get HCA instead of being healthy heading into the playoffs? It amazes me how many people seem to think EVERY NBA CHAMP EVER had HCA in the playoffs...

You know what, your 100% right. I have not seen every Celtic game since your injuries and my opinion is based on boxscores and the little snippets of Celtics games I watch while the other games I watch go to commercial. Honestly I have not watched a majority of your games because I've figured you guys will win.

I apologize for basing my opinion on such a small sample of snippets.

I can say that Doc's ejection last night was wrong. It seems like the ref baited him. I wonder if refs gets reprimanded somehow in situations like that.

MyInsatiableOne wrote:
Dude, with the ridiculous calls against us last night and the injuries, we could barely throw 5 guys out there...and we are still just barely losing games...how is that not "trying" to win? And why should we risk long-term injury to get HCA instead of being healthy heading into the playoffs? It amazes me how many people seem to think EVERY NBA CHAMP EVER had HCA in the playoffs...

One thing about last nights game I was confused about is why did Doc run with a smaller lineup towards the end.
I mean they (Bulls) realized that and they took advantage of it, and you would think that Doc would adjust as needed but he stuck with the same lineup and Ray got burned by Salmons over and over again.
Why not take out Ray and use L.Powe to guard Salmons?
Also that Tech at the end............. Dammm.
Doc should've just ignored the D.Bag.

TonyMontana wrote:One thing about last nights game I was confused about is why did Doc run with a smaller lineup towards the end.
I mean they (Bulls) realized that and they took advantage of it, and you would think that Doc would adjust as needed but he stuck with the same lineup and Ray got burned by Salmons over and over again.
Why not take out Ray and use L.Powe to guard Salmons?
Also that Tech at the end............. Dammm.
Doc should've just ignored the D.Bag.

Powe was injured 4 minutes into the game, and didn`t return.

TonyMontana wrote:One thing about last nights game I was confused about is why did Doc run with a smaller lineup towards the end.
I mean they (Bulls) realized that and they took advantage of it, and you would think that Doc would adjust as needed but he stuck with the same lineup and Ray got burned by Salmons over and over again.
Why not take out Ray and use L.Powe to guard Salmons?
Also that Tech at the end............. Dammm.
Doc should've just ignored the D.Bag.

I agree, with a few minutes left in a tie game, why not put Moore and Perk out there? So they had 5 fouls...at that point in the game you need to go big. We got TORCHED inside by Brad Miller (!) and the pick-and-roll until it was too late...Tony, that move puzzled me, too...

Moore had fouled out by that time. Powe was injured and out of the game. Perk was apparently gassed and taking a breather.

I hadn't realized Moore had fouled out (I ran to the kitchen to get a drink)...

Man, we are so short-handed now. We need Moore, Perk, Powe, Scal, and yes, Davis....

We just need everyone healthy but it seems that's going to be the case, except for perhaps Tony Allen, who knows when he'll be back?