Van Gundy vs. Rivers

MVE85 · Post #1 » by **MVE85** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:26 pm

"Our guys don't care about [home court]. They want to get healthy," Rivers said. "And when we get healthy, we're willing to lace up against anybody."

But Van Gundy couldn't resist.

"I want to know how some teams get on the list, where they get excuses and other teams are not on that list. All I've been hearing about is all the injury problems the Celtics have had this year," Van Gundy said.

Am I the only one that his sick of hearing what he has to say lately? Guy runs his mouth every game every minute to the refs and has lately been in the media taking shots. Rivers was not saying anything negative about the Magic after the game and the guy still has to get in his $.02

Bad-Thoma · Post #2 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:54 pm

Van Gundy is nothing but a front runner anyways

. JK, he's a good coach, but I too am tiring if hearing him run his mouth.

Scalamental · Post #3 » by **Scalamental** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:54 pm

I like both the gund brothers. But in this case, just take your win and eat it too.

handlethetruth · Post #4 » by **handlethetruth** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:01 am

I like both Van Gundy brothers as well, but i dont know what Stan is trying to get across here. Doc wasnt making any excuses for our loss last night. I think Doc was hinting at the fact that Orlando thought it was a bigger game than the Celtics did. Whether we get home court or not, I think Doc and the rest of the Celtics are pretty confident about a playoff series against Orlando if our team is 100 percent.

Avalanche · Post #5 » by **Avalanche** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:09 am

"all hes been hearing about" ?

what the hell has he been listening to lol

Kefa461 · Post #6 » by **Kefa461** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:36 am

MVE85 wrote:
"Our guys don't care about [home court]. They want to get healthy," Rivers said. "And when we get healthy, we're willing to lace up against anybody."

But Van Gundy couldn't resist.

"I want to know how some teams get on the list, where they get excuses and other teams are not on that list. All I've been hearing about is all the injury problems the Celtics have had this year," Van Gundy said.

Am I the only one that his sick of hearing what he has to say lately? Guy runs his mouth every game every minute to the refs and has lately been in the media taking shots. Rivers was not saying anything negative about the Magic after the game and the guy still has to get in his $.02

He's an ass and now he just gave the C's something to put on the board if they meet in the Playoffs... 8-)

magicman123 · Post #7 » by **magicman123** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:14 am

interesting, got a link? or are you referring to this

Van Gundy didn't want to hear about Garnett's woes, considering the Magic are missing point guard Jameer Nelson for the season.
Van Gundy noted that Garnett didn't do much when he was on the floor, scoring just four points on 2-of-5 shooting.

"Go back and look," Van Gundy said. "That's when we played our best basketball."

Oam149 · Post #8 » by **Oam149** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:40 am

I don't thing van gundy was taking a shot a Doc or the Celtics. Im pretty sure that was taken out of context. I think he was talking about how people in the media say that a win for a team doesn't matter because x player and y player didn't play or a team loses a game and it doesn't matter because z player didn't play. Its like when you hear people on ESPN saying "put an * next to that win/lose". And how he would like to get on the list where the media would say "oh the magic only lost this game because so and so was out. So put an * next to the winning team"

SonicYouth34 · Post #9 » by **SonicYouth34** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:44 am

I like Jeff Van Gundy better, he's funnier and doesn't look like a Walrus.

nasbahceltic · Post #10 » by **nasbahceltic** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:49 am

magicman123 wrote:interesting, got a link? or are you referring to this

Van Gundy didn't want to hear about Garnett's woes, considering the Magic are missing point guard Jameer Nelson for the season.
Van Gundy noted that Garnett didn't do much when he was on the floor, scoring just four points on 2-of-5 shooting.
"Go back and look," Van Gundy said. "That's when we played our best basketball."

WOW!!! If Van Gundy was dumb enough to say that I'll be extremely pleased. Not only giving the entire team bulletin board material, but then he takes a shot at KG?!??!!? LMFAO Man I can't wait for that second round matchup....I might even drive up to Orlando to watch us close them out

magicman123 · Post #11 » by **magicman123** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:52 am

its not a shot at KG, he wasn't really effective on the offensive side when he played (he is coming off an injury), the celtics dont need bulletin board material, especially something this small. he was describing the game and im sure a lot has been taken out of contents, the writer is terrible too

Post #12 » by **sunshinekids99** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:24 am

Ron Jeremy really has a big mouth lately. Perhaps he should be more focused on winning then getting into pissing contests with Shaq, the Knicks, or the Celtics. That team will lose in the first round anyways if they have to play Detroit.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #13 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:34 am

Remember, though, if another team has loads of injuries, it's a justifiable reason for their losing. If the Celtics do, it's an excuse, a cop-out, and we're whining...

People, I cannot BELIEVE how many of you forgot about the league-wide double-standard when it comes to the C's...honestly! :wavefinger:

Oam149 · Post #14 » by **Oam149** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:45 pm

I still don't see how's he's taking shots at the celtics. Like when jameer nelson first got hurt and the magic started losing a few games you didn't hear people on ESPN excusing the loses, atleast I didn't hear it. I completely agree if a team does have a lot of injuries it is a valid excuse but maybe he just feels that excuse is reserved for a select few teams. I have absolutley no idea how saying they played their best ball when KG was in is a shot at KG. Did he say KG sucked or anything? No. He just said when KG was in the team stepped up and played better which is hard to even argue against, I believe the magic built the 16pt lead when KG was in and correct me if im wrong but I think he had a +/- of -10. A snippet of what someone says can be made to look like anything and in this case the journalist twisted some words around. Hey lets face it if he really was talking trash you'd see it all over ESPN "first shaq, then the knicks, now boston? What's gotten into stan van gundy!?" I know it seems like a lot of you on here hate the magic for some reason but its hard to argue that they didn't play great basketball in that game.

magicfanatic23 · Post #15 » by **magicfanatic23** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:41 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:Remember, though, if another team has loads of injuries, it's a justifiable reason for their losing. If the Celtics do, it's an excuse, a cop-out, and we're whining...

People, I cannot BELIEVE how many of you forgot about the league-wide double-standard when it comes to the C's...honestly!

I definitely see where your coming from on this. But when the Magic lose no one says "Oh they lost because they were missing Jameer Nelson." Don't forget the Nelson was an All-Star and the Magic's best play was when he was running the point. 1 or 2 injuries really shouldn't be an excuse for any team imo. You guys aren't whining, I understand that. But I don't think its justifiable for other teams to lose when they're missing a key player also. We lost Jameer and we don't blame a loss on the fact we didn't have him.

Anyways Good luck to you guys the rest of the way. If everything goes according to plan, the 2nd round matchup should be great between the the Magic and Celtics.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #16 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:06 pm

^I can dig, but throughout this rash of injuries it's been the FANS more than anything lamenting the injuries...the team hasn't really and certainly no one outside of the New England media has been to that extent. I understand it's a part of the game but it seems to only been thrown back in *Boston's* faces...maybe cos they're the champs? *dontknow*

celtics543 · Post #17 » by **celtics543** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:25 pm

I have to agree with what Kornheiser and Wilbon said about this on PTI a few days ago.

The Celtics can make this excuse because they've won a championship. Everyone knows that when healthy, the Celtics are good enough to win a championship. The Magic are still kind of an unknown as far as playoff success goes.

So to answer Stan Van Gundy's question, when you win a championship, then you get on the list.

Post #18 » by **canman1971** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:30 am

Biggest issue here is people are comparing losing Jameer Nelson to losing KG. I am sorry, yes Nelson is a nice player and perhaps important for the Magic, but don't ever put him in the same importance category as Garnett. Powe and Tony Allen sure, but not KG.

Bakomagic · Post #19 » by **Bakomagic** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:16 am

powe and tony allen cmon nelson was an all star and not to mention he was the leader and heart and soul of the team. he doesnt compare to garnett but hes worth more than bench players

MyInsatiableOne · Post #20 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:30 am

celtics543 wrote:I have to agree with what Kornheiser and Wilbon said about this on PTI a few days ago.

The Celtics can make this excuse because they've won a championship. Everyone knows that when healthy, the Celtics are good enough to win a championship. The Magic are still kind of an unknown as far as playoff success goes.

So to answer Stan Van Gundy's question, when you win a championship, then you get on the list.

Excellent analysis...

canman1971 wrote:Biggest issue here is people are comparing losing Jameer Nelson to losing KG. I am sorry, yes Nelson is a nice player and perhaps important for the Magic, but don't ever put him in the same importance category as Garnett. Powe and Tony Allen sure, but not KG.

This was exactly my point in the previous page of this thread...it's like comparing Guiness to Corvousier (or something to that effect...)