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Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:32 pm
by campybatman
I wonder, but not just due to his impressive efforts in the playoffs against Chicago. I'd thought about this last season. That being that you could see Rondo emerge like Harris has in New Jersey this season. Most probably knew that Harris is a good player. It's his maturation as a scorer that had him turning the page from being a good talent to being an All-Star. He got an opportunity to further blossom with the Nets, albeit doing so on a bad team that was the Nets this season. Is this the beginning of the "take over" for Rondo? Can Boston win with Rondo as the first option like Paul in New Orleans? I can see Pierce and Garnett deferring some offense to him. However, I think you hurt Ray's potential offensively somewhat in contrast.

I'm not big on the idea of your lead guard leading the team in points. However, you've seen some impressive point guards over the years who have been dominant on their team. You see it now with Paul, Parker and Harris and you might soon see it with Rondo, Ellis and Rose. In the past, you'd players like Iverson, Billups, Arenas, I. Thomas, "Magic" Johnson, K. Johnson and so on.

What do other think? Is it time to have a changing of the guard, so to speak. Give the reigns to Rondo. Any effort to prolong Pierce's career is a welcome. Teams will really have to game plan for Rondo as an offensive threat too. Still, it's about winning and if the shift doesn't help toward winning games. Then I guess it won't happen next season. And I think of point guards such as Kidd and Nash who don't need to score a lot to be tremendously effective in games.

Rondo's averaging a triple-double in this first round series. Good but not yet impressive when you consider that Kidd averaged a triple-double in twelve games (two rounds) for New Jersey during the 2006-2007 playoffs.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:51 pm
by bballcool34
bonsaiflipflops wrote:
Rondo's averaging a triple-double in this first round series. Good but not yet impressive when you consider that Kidd averaged a triple-double in twelve games (two rounds) for New Jersey during the 2006-2007 playoffs.


Given that Kidd averaged over 20 points twice in those two series (20 once and 23 once) while avererging his triple double, it is very impressive that Rondo is putting up the stats he is while also carrying far more of a scoring load than Kidd ever had to.

Rondo right now is playing better than Kidd did in those two series.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:52 pm
by BeanTownBrawler
He can't be the first option because his main role is to create for others. Rondo is absolutely spectacular but he needs good players around him and he'll make the team great.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:55 pm
by bballcool34
bonsaiflipflops wrote:
Rondo's averaging a triple-double in this first round series. Good but not yet impressive when you consider that Kidd averaged a triple-double in twelve games (two rounds) for New Jersey during the 2006-2007 playoffs.


Given that Kidd averaged over 20 points twice in those two series (20 once and 23 once) while averaging his triple double, it is very impressive that Rondo is putting up the stats he is while also carrying far more of a scoring load than Kidd ever had to. I mean Rondo is averaging in 3 games more than Kidd scored in his best game scoring wise and he's scoring more efficiently than Kidd as well. Add in the fact that Rondo simply is not turning the ball over and you see how damn good he's playing- huge numbers while being very efficient.

Rondo right now is playing better than Kidd did in those two series albeit its only been 4 games

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:07 pm
by campybatman
bballcool34 wrote:
bonsaiflipflops wrote:
Rondo's averaging a triple-double in this first round series. Good but not yet impressive when you consider that Kidd averaged a triple-double in twelve games (two rounds) for New Jersey during the 2006-2007 playoffs.


Given that Kidd averaged over 20 points twice in those two series (20 once and 23 once) while avererging his triple double, it is very impressive that Rondo is putting up the stats he is while also carrying far more of a scoring load than Kidd ever had to.

Rondo right now is playing better than Kidd did in those two series.



Yes, but keep in mind that Rondo's second triple-double of his two came in overtime. But, I'm not trying to diminish Rondo's feats. It's just that Rondo's being called on more so now than ever with Garnett out and Pierce slumping at times. He and Garnett are the two players besides Pierce that you really can't afford to play without. Some in the local media think of Rondo as a small version of Garnett. I can see that... He's indeed the second vocal leader on the team. But, you've to be assertive as a young player if you want your veteran teammates to respect and listen to you.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:13 am
by Hemingway
Even if Rondo was far and away the best player on a team, he would not be the first option. He doesn't play a me first AI type game. The future wil be about finding the best players to put around him. I think he will make average players look good so another thing to think about is what players can we get, up thair value and trade.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:10 am
by campybatman
BeanTownBrawler wrote:He can't be the first option because his main role is to create for others. Rondo is absolutely spectacular but he needs good players around him and he'll make the team great.



I know... I said too that I'm not a fan of your lead guard being the main scorer. Rondo's more of a pass-first player. I was just raising the question since Paul still manages to rack up the assists despite dominating the ball as much as he does for them. He does everything for them outside of blocking shots. I guess I think that Rondo has to be this way too in order to be acknowledged as an elite point guard on the same tier as Paul and Deron Williams. But, I then remind myself that no player's in their class.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:33 am
by SonicYouth34
I think so. The more pressure he puts on the opposing D, the more easy shots Jesus and co. get on the wings. It's also not like he's jacking up triples all game ala 'Toine.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:10 am
by Cyclical
All you need to look at for your answer is one example - Tony Parker. He was the finals MVP in their last title run. If KG is anchoring the defense and still commends a double-team Rondo can absolutely be the high scorer. "First option" every time down may be technically incorrect, but high scorer? For sure.

Re: Can Boston excel having Rondo be the first option

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:57 am
by GuyClinch
Rondo always could score with his quickness that forces people to play like 10 feet off him.. But I don't know if he wants to be a first option. With KG and Powe gone and RA slipping we don't have alot of choice though..