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Post#1 » by Red2 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:04 pm

An NBA official said the situation with Celtics guard Rajon Rondo's hard foul on Chicago's Brad Miller in Game 5 yesterday in Boston stands as is. There was some concern that Rondo could get a Flagrant Foul or more due to the hard foul.
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Post#2 » by Red2 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:07 pm

As reported by The Globe. As Porky Pig would say " That's all folks!" Maybe now we can get onto game 6.
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Post#3 » by Kefa461 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:09 pm

The Commish has spoken.......




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Re: no flagrant for rondo 

Post#4 » by Celtic Esquire » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:10 pm

Justice prevails!!!

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Post#5 » by Scalamental » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:15 pm

We can now feel free to call it what it was, a biyatch slap for a big biyatch.
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Post#6 » by anorexorcism » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:24 pm

precedent set!

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Post#7 » by GreenDreamer » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:32 pm

I like how the Bulls fans were praying for Rondo to get suspended for a game. Yeah, suspend him.... so we have a chance.

It would be cool if someone made a montage of the MANY times that Rondo has been spiked into the ground, got up and absolutely porked the offensing team as a response. my personal favorite was last season, Game 7 vs the Hawks.

i don't really expect much of a response, as all the Bulls have to do is look at Perk and Big Baby, then look at their own skinny bodies, and wonder what would happen if those two decided to "use up their fouls". Perk might literally break someone in half, and still make it look like he went for teh ball.

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Post#8 » by ramshackle75 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:38 pm

Flagrant foul or not ... make the damn free throws, Miller, and quit whining.
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Post#9 » by anorexorcism » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:40 pm

^^OK, before you start quoting these mysteriously unnamed Bulls fans, the majority of Bulls fans were not praying for a suspension. They just felt the foul should have been a F1. In fact even in your forum here I posted here about a few hours ago that I didn't think Rondo deserved to be suspended, but Dwight certainly did.

Bulls fans are all upset right now because the league did not rule it a flagrant, as numerous sources not loyal to Boston OR Chicago that watched the game agree it was a flagrant. So now what everyone should be worried about though is the precedent this sets. Now anyone can whack anyone in the mouth, blood can spill, and it's just a normal foul.
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Post#10 » by sh00n » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:41 pm

Wonder if Stern would have felt the same way if it was Rose hitting Perkins in the face.
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Post#11 » by cold5 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:44 pm

Unbelievable the amount of whining people are doing. 76ers fans compared Howard's fouls to murder and Bulls fans are treating the officiating in game 6 as if someone shot all of their players in the foot. Howard shouldn't have even been suspended. At least the league did justice to Rondo.
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Post#12 » by girlygirl » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 pm

Can't say I'm surprised. But I wonder if a better course of action would have been to fine Rondo, without suspending him. By doing nothing, the NBA is opening itself up to allowing players just swinging wildly at other player's heads without any fear of punishment -- by simply saying it was a "good playoff foul".

They suspended Howard for throwing a deliberate elbow at Dalembert's head. Which was worse than what Rondo did. But I have to wonder -- Howard didn't get thrown out of Game 5 for that (not sure he even was given a technical or personal foul) -- so where exactly is the line in terms of what is/isn't acceptable?
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Post#13 » by alucryts » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 pm

GreenDreamer wrote:I like how the Bulls fans were praying for Rondo to get suspended for a game. Yeah, suspend him.... so we have a chance.

It would be cool if someone made a montage of the MANY times that Rondo has been spiked into the ground, got up and absolutely porked the offensing team as a response. my personal favorite was last season, Game 7 vs the Hawks.

i don't really expect much of a response, as all the Bulls have to do is look at Perk and Big Baby, then look at their own skinny bodies, and wonder what would happen if those two decided to "use up their fouls". Perk might literally break someone in half, and still make it look like he went for teh ball.

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this is so far off base. no one on the bulls forums wants rondo suspended. after reading pages of game thread, postgame thread, and random threads there are none where a suspension "called" for. Everyone said it would be stupid for a suspension.

Its sad because all the NBA had to do was give him a flagrant to acknowledge there was something wrong. The job of the referees is to keep the game in check and in control, and this no call is going to send people flying tbh. Suspending a player at this point is going to ruin what is a great, fun to watch series.
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Post#14 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:52 pm

That wasn't no damn flagrant..and even if they did give him a flagrant, and Miller missed the 1st one AS HE DID, he makes the second and we are still up 1. Who the hell guarantees me the Bulls score on us with 2 seconds left? People need to stop whining about what could have been...it WASN'T CALLED A F2...man up and let's go to game 6...
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Post#15 » by GreenDreamer » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:54 pm

anorexorcism wrote:^^OK, before you start quoting these mysteriously unnamed Bulls fans, the majority of Bulls fans were not praying for a suspension. They just felt the foul should have been a F1. In fact even in your forum here I posted here about a few hours ago that I didn't think Rondo deserved to be suspended, but Dwight certainly did.

Bulls fans are all upset right now because the league did not rule it a flagrant, as numerous sources not loyal to Boston OR Chicago that watched the game agree it was a flagrant. So now what everyone should be worried about though is the precedent this sets. Now anyone can whack anyone in the mouth, blood can spill, and it's just a normal foul.


I've been browsing around plenty on both this site, and Blog a Bull. Plenty of crying for a suspension. Why? Fear and hope. People are realizing that Rondo is probably just this good, and he's probably going to keep on doing this. Not having him around for Game 6 would make a HUGE difference.

Personally I think it was an unfortunate incident. I'm not happy that Miller got hit like that, even though he's dirty as hell himself. I don't think Rondo was looking to tear his face off and much rather would have taken Miller's arm out, but he never raised it to dunk, but went in weak for a finger roll. Rondo just hit what he could.

As for fairness of officiating, well I wouldn't mind it if they subtracted BG's 3 free throws after he stepped out of bounds, or gave us Ray Allen back after shafting him. All in all, there was bad stuff going on for both sides.
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Post#16 » by TXSun » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:56 pm

here's my take: it was a fragrant 1 foul. lets switch the scenerio around, what if it was a much bigger and physical Miller fouling a much smaller and softer Rondo across the face? I guarantee you that Miller will have been out for game 6. the Bulls got the short end of the stick.
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Re: no flagrant for rondo 

Post#17 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:00 pm

GreenDreamer wrote:
anorexorcism wrote:^^OK, before you start quoting these mysteriously unnamed Bulls fans, the majority of Bulls fans were not praying for a suspension. They just felt the foul should have been a F1. In fact even in your forum here I posted here about a few hours ago that I didn't think Rondo deserved to be suspended, but Dwight certainly did.

Bulls fans are all upset right now because the league did not rule it a flagrant, as numerous sources not loyal to Boston OR Chicago that watched the game agree it was a flagrant. So now what everyone should be worried about though is the precedent this sets. Now anyone can whack anyone in the mouth, blood can spill, and it's just a normal foul.


I've been browsing around plenty on both this site, and Blog a Bull. Plenty of crying for a suspension. Why? Fear and hope. People are realizing that Rondo is probably just this good, and he's probably going to keep on doing this. Not having him around for Game 6 would make a HUGE difference.

Personally I think it was an unfortunate incident. I'm not happy that Miller got hit like that, even though he's dirty as hell himself. I don't think Rondo was looking to tear his face off and much rather would have taken Miller's arm out, but he never raised it to dunk, but went in weak for a finger roll. Rondo just hit what he could.

As for fairness of officiating, well I wouldn't mind it if they subtracted BG's 3 free throws after he stepped out of bounds, or gave us Ray Allen back after shafting him. All in all, there was bad stuff going on for both sides.


Right on the money..we have been screwed all series long..quit the complaining.
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Re: no flagrant for rondo 

Post#18 » by chakdaddy » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:08 pm

Eh, if a bigger Miller hits Rondo, there's more force, and it winds up being more forceful than an inadvertent smack to the face..

Hinrich throwing down Perk was worse.
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Post#19 » by sully00 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:14 pm

Anyone who thought Rondo could have been suspended just doesn't know what they are talking about the rules wouldn't support that, that is essentially saying "the refs suck."

This idea of saying Miller hits Rondo in the face it would be a flagrant foul is stating the obvious he would have to reach down to do it unless he was on the floor.

There own coach said it "playoff foul" the result was unfortuneate, I guess, but there was no intent other than to stop a game tying lay up.

As far as precedents and further violence resulting again you must be new. There will be a whole different referee crew who will be told to call the game tight as can be.
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Re: no flagrant for rondo 

Post#20 » by Green Menace » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:17 pm

I´m ok with bull´s fans wanting a F1, but they must know it wouldn´t change the outcome of the game.
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