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It's a shame......they thought they were robbing us and they robbed themselves.


One rival executive contacted Wednesday night said he expected the Hornets to try to trade James Posey first after the four-year, $25 million deal New Orleans used to lure Posey away from the defending champs in Boston didn't make the Hornets any deeper. But after Posey's quiet season at 32 and with three more years left on his contract, interest could be minimal in spite of Posey's past contributions to title teams in two cities (Miami and Boston).


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We could have used him at a reasonable price this season.......

Maybe we would trade for him in 2010, 2 years deal isn't so bad.

Posey would be better in the east, b/c he gets to play some 3 and 4. West has too many bigs.
Plus playing him at the 4 along KG is different than David West maning the middle.

sometimes managers fall in love with guys but they can't see if he fits their team, positions, conference and system.

They can have his contract now...what a terrible decision that was from the hornets management...

I wonder if they would accept Scal for him???

Seriously though...the guy doesn't even get playing time. I seen a couple games from this Denver x NO series and he should be in the starting line up..he is better than just about everybody except Paul and West, yet West was WAY OFF in the playoffs. They should look to trade Stojakovic and his bricking ways...not him...but hey, I would love to get him back next season.

Rondo/Marbs/House
Ray/Tony/House
Pierce/Posey/Scal
Garnett/McDyess/Baby
Perkins/Powe

Not bad huh???

This makes me laugh. After one year they are already trying to trade him. I just read they may trade West and Chandler is probably as good as gone. Way to go NO

I think the key to the Celtics long term success is not falling victim to signing role players like posey to significant deals. Big Baby to me is the same. I just think he might command a little too much so we might have to part ways. Danny can probably buy a pick or two in the first round and sign some studs to make up for the loss.

It was the opposite they played him too much. They expected him to be more than he was in Boston they run iso plays and post ups for him and expect him to get his own shot and then go and defend SGs on the other end.

While we certainly miss him at the money and age it just isn't happening we need the next one not the old one.

sully00 wrote:It was the opposite they played him too much. They expected him to be more than he was in Boston they run iso plays and post ups for him and expect him to get his own shot and then go and defend SGs on the other end.

While we certainly miss him at the money and age it just isn't happening we need the next one not the old one.

Did they really?? I don't know much.. I only watched NO in the playoffs. And it looked like he didn't get many minutes. And yeah when he played he was asked to be a scorer and get his own shot instead of camping around the 3 pt line getting shots...
In game 3...he played really well...but Iso and post ups??Ehh..that's not his style.

I wonder if the Hornets would consider throwing something "extra" the Celtics way for taking Posey's contract off their hands. Maybe something like Posey, a future 1st and a bit of cash for Scal, House and Giddens. If the C's bring back Steph, that leaves a pretty clear rotation of:
Rondo/Steph
Ray/TA/Walker
Pierce/Posey
KG/Baby/(Posey)/Powe
Perk/Sheed?

Adding a pick and extra salary (Sheed+Posey's last two years) will be contingent on ownership, but if they are willing to invest then I think DA can rebuild the team on the fly. Cutting Pierce/KG/Ray's minutes down to about 30 a night in the regular season will definitely be necessary if this team wants to compete for a championship next year. With better reserves ready to step up for 20-25 minutes a game, I could easily see another 60 win season, but with far less effort expended.

If they throw in Wright, Armstrong or a pick I would do it...

Honestly, I'd say do it. Scal and TA, try to squeeze something more out from them like a pick.

Use him for 2 years - I don't get the fuss about that 4th year, because by then he's a great expiring contract.

In a trade like this we regain a solid bench guy without using the MLE. We keep the MLE to sign a big (do we have to use it on Big Baby?) Or go after Joe Smith, Rasheed Wallace (not sure I want him anymore.)

It's all predicated on the willingness to spend money though. I don't think the cap is a big concern since Rondo's extension should kill any cap space in 2010.

What year is Durant a FA? That's the year to plan for. It would be some justice for the Sonics if he left. Tragic how OKC is building something nice.

Maybe all those people that gave DA a hard time, saying he 'screwed up' last summer... CAN SHUT UP NOW. DA knows what he is doing and most GMs (and YOU) don't.

You know who you are. Be ashamed.

The cap isn't an issue but luxury tax is. There is no way we are getting Posey back on that deal.

Some of you guys need to get over your Posey love. He's one of those guys who looked great here because he was asked to do very little-- defend, and hit an occasional wide open 3. suddenly you give him the MLE and expect him to play up to that contract, and lo and behold, he's the same limited player he always was, but now terribly overpaid.

I'm glad Ainge had the sense not to sign him for the MLE. We need to be fairly frugal since we've got to pay the Big 4. Guys like Posey who are poor value just aren't an option.

Ainge was very smart not matching the Hornets offer. Now we have Big Baby coming off the bench, who is becoming a more important player than Posey was last year, and Glen will probably get close to what Posey was offered. Davis like Posey, has a pretty good BBIQ too. We've also got Bill Walker and Giddens, and of those 2 I think we will get at least one rotational player next year.

GreenMachine wrote:Maybe all those people that gave DA a hard time, saying he 'screwed up' last summer... CAN SHUT UP NOW. DA knows what he is doing and most GMs (and YOU) don't.

You know who you are. Be ashamed.

Just because a team in desperate financial straits wants to dump a salary? The same team that tried to give away Tyson Chandler??

We still don't have a legit backup 3 on the roster. We only have 1 legit backup 4 now that injuries have struck. Posey would be EXTREMELY useful right now.

The way injuries have struck also highlight the fact that we failed to add an impact reserve with the MLE.

I think it's more evident than ever that the last offseason didn't go well.

Count the Hornets as the latest team that made a nice playoff run and was (wrongly) picked to be a future perennial contender. If they dump their coach, West, Chandler, Posey, etc, that team would be lucky to make the playoffs next year!!

The problem with Posey is that his only threat on offense is the three ball. Other than that he can't create his on shot on the perimeter, very poor penetration ability, and no post up game. Our 2nd unit was terrible last year because nobody on the bench could create for the players with limited offensive ability like Posey and House. With Marbury I think that would be a completely different story if we had him now.

We need to move on from Posey and focus on Giddens and Walker. Hopefully they will make some huge strides next year with a year under their belt.

I hope Powe comes back healthy and can get to were he was before the injuries.

Bench:
Big Baby/FA Center
Powe/Scal
Walker
House/Giddens
Marbury/Pruitt

That would be a pretty sick bench IMO. Also, would be huge if we can finally pickup a legit 7 footer with good length. That would make us a very deep team that can throw multiple looks at teams and adjust as necessary.

chakdaddy wrote:

GreenMachine wrote:Maybe all those people that gave DA a hard time, saying he 'screwed up' last summer... CAN SHUT UP NOW. DA knows what he is doing and most GMs (and YOU) don't.

You know who you are. Be ashamed.

Just because a team in desperate financial straits wants to dump a salary? The same team that tried to give away Tyson Chandler??

We still don't have a legit backup 3 on the roster. We only have 1 legit backup 4 now that injuries have struck. Posey would be EXTREMELY useful right now.

The way injuries have struck also highlight the fact that we failed to add an impact reserve with the MLE.

I think it's more evident than ever that the last offseason didn't go well.

You mean Ainge should have known that KG and Powe would be out for the playoffs, and TA ineffective because he was injured most of the year?

Right.

Because if those guys are healthy, I think our bench is pretty damn good. Posey may not even be getting any PT here because Powe and Baby are better PFs (remember Posey played the majority of his mins at PF for us).

Our GM isn't a fortune teller. Fire his ass!

ParticleMan wrote:Because if those guys are healthy, I think our bench is pretty damn good. Posey may not even be getting any PT here because Powe and Baby are better PFs (remember Posey played the majority of his mins at PF for us).

I disagree. We still have not filled PJ or Posey's roles. Mikki Moore was a disaster; and I still think we would have had more trouble with LeBron or Kobe this year, simply because Pierce and to a lesser extent Ray are the only players with appropriate size to guard them.

Big Baby, Powe, and TA were expected to fill some of the roles but simply don't have the height needed for some situations.

Relying on them left us with much less depth. Ainge can't be expected to predict injuries, but I think we should have been more prepared for them.

The reason Posey is a different and perhaps slightly better option than Powe or even Baby is that because Posey can hit the 3 with regularity, he spreads the floor out and opens up the offense...witness the game 4 comeback against the Lakers last year in the Finals...he keeps the perimeter D honest. Powe (never) and Baby (not quite yet) don't spread it out as much...