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Can Perk please get some shots?

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Can Perk please get some shots? 

Post#1 » by billfromBoston » Sat May 2, 2009 1:34 am

If there is one spot that Boston has shown to have a clear one-on-one advantage its a center - Noah, Miller, and Thomas have had absolutely no success in single coverage against Perk on the block.

Now maybe Doc is worried about offensive fouls or something, but from a strategic standpoint, Perk should be getting 15+ shots down on the block, drawing doubles and playing a two-man game with the strong side perimeter spot up man.

Make Chicago adjust their defense to guard the post and timely passing will create all type of offensive options - including slashing and wide open 3's...
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Post#2 » by humblebum » Sat May 2, 2009 2:43 am

I've been thinking that Perk should get more post touches for about a season and a half now. Even with Garnett he helps to suck in the defense which only helps in free up perimeter shots. By getting buckets inside early, and often, Perkins will keep Noah, Miller, Thomas from full commitall to challenging penetration with the thought that Perkins could slide in for the dish pass or offensive rebound.

To me that's largely a coaching issue. In the halfcourt we should be working Pierce and Ray to catch off of movement/screens, backdoor cuts, and curls, and to work Perk (and Davis when he has a mismatch) on the low block. Rondo will get most of his on the break and secondary break/early in the shot clock game. Outside of these offensive options then you look to Rondo on the pick and roll/pop. And I don't mean that as Rondo being a last option to handle the ball. In my estimation Rondo should be in charge of making plays the majority of the offensive possessions.
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Post#3 » by Datruth345 » Sat May 2, 2009 5:33 am

can't help but to agree, perk has been a monster down low on both ends of the floor
shooting 60% and grabbing 4 offensive rebounds a game says to me that he deserves more touches on the block
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Post#4 » by 3pt % » Sat May 2, 2009 6:00 am

Don't forget that Perk is being asked to carry a massive load defensively as our front line has no depth.

Requiring him to then also feature on offence may be asking too much.
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Post#5 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat May 2, 2009 6:22 am

There only are three capable post scorers on the team -- KG, Powe, and Perk. Perk is the only one still suiting up. So you're absolutely right.
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Post#6 » by threrf23 » Sat May 2, 2009 7:47 am

3pt % wrote:Don't forget that Perk is being asked to carry a massive load defensively as our front line has no depth.

Requiring him to then also feature on offence may be asking too much.


I am inclined to agree, we need him defensively and on the boards because if we don't get that we are screwed regardless of what he is able to do offensively. It would be different if the Bulls didn't have a solid defensive front court (if not a strong front court), or if Perk was not already contributing at least a little on the offensive end. Plus, if the Bulls do adjust their defense to guard him, he needs to recognize double teams and such and use agility he might not have to make this really work for us.

On one hand, he is our second most efficient offensive player on a per shot attempt basis in this series by a noticeable margin, and that would indicate he should be given at least a slight bit more opportunity on the offensive end. On the other hand, he is our most TO prone player this series (Tony & Mikki compete as a percentage of possessions used or something to the extent, but are not as bad), Perk is turning the ball over about as much as Paul Pierce despite handling the ball much less and not being the focus of so much defensive attention. He definitely, in my opinion, gets overzealous at times and can seem to forget his limitations at the prospect of having the green light to go to work on the low post.

Perk has been one of our best players this series and I don't feel we have enough to gain by giving him more of a low post offensive role to risk rocking the boat. I think we would be getting too greedy for our own good.

And I just don't feel that any major adjustments need to be made. We have lost three games this series that a.) we should have won and b.) I am convinced we would have won if there was a greater sense of urgency. People are talking about this series like its one of the best series in ages and I think that's funny.

If I am to suggest any adjustments, I would point out that Chicago is bringing arguably their two best players off the bench, and we are starting all five of our best players and seeing leads evaporate quickly when our bench is in the game. Guys like Mikki & TA can contribute nicely when surrounded by the right teammates, but when surrounded by fellow bench players we can get screwed. I think Doc could certainly juggle our rotations a little better.

And if we need more post offense, BBD is the man. Besides Eddie House & Scal who have not played much, BBD is our least TO prone player this series and has at least some offensive ability in the post.
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Post#7 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat May 2, 2009 12:23 pm

threrf23 wrote:And if we need more post offense, BBD is the man.


Not against a team with good shotblockers.
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Post#8 » by billfromBoston » Sat May 2, 2009 2:24 pm

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threrf23 wrote:And if we need more post offense, BBD is the man.


Not against a team with good shotblockers.


Glen Davis is not a post player - he is a face-up 4...
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Post#9 » by the sea duck » Sat May 2, 2009 3:04 pm

i think it is worth a try, but i think i understand two reasons he hasn't been more of an option.

1. he's expending himself so much trying to do everything else.
2. he tends to take a long time in the post/ is sometimes susceptible to double teams, not recognizing a quick double coming from the blind side.. he keeps his hands low to start out his moves too.

i like perk in the post in these matchups as well, but i have to think game 7 might not be the time to entirely switch up the offensive flow of the team. if perk can get his touches enough for 15 shots in the flow of the offense, that would be great, especially if it means offensive boards... but i don't know that i'd force feed him that volume in game 7. probably could've been tried much earlier in the series though.
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Post#10 » by canman1971 » Sat May 2, 2009 3:31 pm

I personally do not feel that Doc has done a great job coaching in this series and the point was driven home when he subbed TA for Davis when Chicago went small. Why let Chicago dictate your moves? If Chicago goes small, leave Davis in and pound it inside to him or Perk. I love Doc as a coach and think he is an excellent one, but at times he micro-manages and it hurts the team.
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Post#11 » by Rocky5000 » Sat May 2, 2009 3:49 pm

Perk is good against single coverage, but in Game 5 the Bulls began to figure him out and started to double team him. When he's double teamed he has a very high probability of turning the ball over because of how methodical he is with his movements.
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Post#12 » by Bad-Thoma » Sat May 2, 2009 4:22 pm

I love seeing Perk get a chance to work, but BFB mentioned the thing I am most scared of in his OP... offensive fouls. The turnovers can be rough too, but limiting the refs chances to blow the whistle on Perk seems wise to me, and when he is bumping a flop-monkey like Brad Miller there'll be plenty of chances for that whistle to come out. We need his interior defense way too much to risk having him trying to play in foul trouble or having to watch from the bench. We've had precious few stretches of really good Celtic defense in this series and I can guarantee Perk has been on the floor for all of them.

I do agree he could have plenty of success in the post, he just too much of a load for Chicago's bigs to handle, but I don't see the potential gain offsetting the potential costs the way the refs tend to call Perk's game.
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Post#13 » by humblebum » Sat May 2, 2009 4:54 pm

I think you basically have to work Perk against Noah. That's the guy Perk has most often been able to take advantage of. I'd say get Perk 3-5 low post touches within the first 8 minutes of the game. If he's got it going you continue to feed him and try to get Noah in foul trouble.

Otherwise let Rondo push tempo, use picks, and find Ray/Paul/Davis off of movement, screens, etc.
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Post#14 » by ryaningf » Sat May 2, 2009 5:01 pm

canman1971 wrote:I personally do not feel that Doc has done a great job coaching in this series and the point was driven home when he subbed TA for Davis when Chicago went small. Why let Chicago dictate your moves? If Chicago goes small, leave Davis in and pound it inside to him or Perk. I love Doc as a coach and think he is an excellent one, but at times he micro-manages and it hurts the team.


Chicago scored 5 straight points after going small. It's great and all to not let the other team 'dictate' your moves...but if they go small and start going on a run because of it, then it's stupid to not respond in kind. Doc gave his team a chance to see if they could respond to Chicago's small ball lineup; they didn't and he made a change.

You can complain about a lot of Doc's moves this series, but going small wasn't one of them.
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Post#15 » by humblebum » Sat May 2, 2009 5:05 pm

I agree with your general point there ryaningf. But the problem with Doc going with TA in that small lineup was that he didn't use Tony earlier in the game. If Tony plays 6-8 in the first and second quarters then it makes sense to bring him in in the fourth quarter for his defense. But after giving him a vote of no confidence in the first half you might as well stick with Davis at that point, IMO. At least with Davis you get solid offensive execution and a guy who is willing and able to make big shots in crunch time.
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Post#16 » by GregB » Sat May 2, 2009 5:56 pm

canman1971 wrote:I personally do not feel that Doc has done a great job coaching in this series and the point was driven home when he subbed TA for Davis when Chicago went small. Why let Chicago dictate your moves? If Chicago goes small, leave Davis in and pound it inside to him or Perk. I love Doc as a coach and think he is an excellent one, but at times he micro-manages and it hurts the team.



Seriously,

Yet everyone kills TA like it's his fault. The kid hasn't played all game and you put him in cold with 3 minutes left. That's just horrible coaching right there. We should of left BBD in and I feel we would have closed out that game.
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Post#17 » by 3pt % » Sat May 2, 2009 11:26 pm

Doc pulled a Dunleavy "coldest player on the team" move. It rarely ends well.
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Post#18 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun May 3, 2009 5:25 am

billfromBoston wrote:
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threrf23 wrote:And if we need more post offense, BBD is the man.


Not against a team with good shotblockers.


Glen Davis is not a post player - he is a face-up 4...


He attempts quite a few shots around the hoop even so.
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