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Hey yo!

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It's really amazing the lack of basketball knowledge that many writers proudly show off. Scal the worst player in the league? Really?? Are you kidding me? Are you serious??

The guy is not an athlete by any means but as a basketball player he has some serious skills. Great defender, great shooter, plays terrific team ball, can play 3/4 and defend 3/4/5.

But nowadays, NBA is a track and field competition. Are the Eddy Curry, Reggie Evans, Pat O'Bryant, Marcus Banks, Tim Thomas, Sean May, Mark Blount, Adonal Foyle, DeShawn Stevenson, Gerald Green, Rudy Gay of this world better than him?????

No way man.

Any thoughts? Kind regards.

Bruiser wrote:Hey yo!

Check this link:
http://dimemag.com/2009/05/derrick-rose ... calabrine/

It's really amazing the lack of basketball knowledge that many writers proudly show off. Scal the worst player in the league? Really?? Are you kidding me? Are you serious??

The guy is not an athlete by any means but as a basketball player he has some serious skills. Great defender, great shooter, plays terrific team ball, can play 3/4 and defend 3/4/5.

But nowadays, NBA is a track and field competition. Are the Eddy Curry, Reggie Evans, Pat O'Bryant, Marcus Banks, Tim Thomas, Sean May, Mark Blount, Adonal Foyle, DeShawn Stevenson, Gerald Green, Rudy Gay of this world better than him?????

No way man.

Any thoughts? Kind regards.

Rudy Gay? Do you have something against him?

As for Veal, he's not the worst player in the league. He's quite useful for this team this season.

sunshinekids99 wrote:Rudy Gay? Do you have something against him?
As for Veal, he's not the worst player in the league. He's quite useful for this team this season.

Yes, I do.
Even if Gay is a jaw droping athlete, a good shooter and a pizzaz dunker he lacks all the intangibles that make Scal such an useful guy. He is selfish, a poor defender and has a low BBIQ.

When comparing Scal to guys like Gay or TMac nobody would doubt to pencil Scal as the minor player but I think a team that is leaded by any of them has as many chances as a team leaded by Scal to win it all. That's right, zero.

But while Scal is a very useful player off the bench because of his overall skills, Gay would hardly provide as much as him because of his approach to the game.

That's why I'm not sold on the idea of Marbs as backup PG. I don't like him as starting PG and I'm not sure if he is what we need. I hope Marbs proves this very year how wrong I am.

Meh. he is pretty close to the worst player in the league. Scal and BBD were among the top 20 worst players in the league according to wages of win. Intangibles my *ss - Scal's plus minus is not great. Wages of win say he isn't great. I say he isn't great..

http://www.wagesofwins.com/BottomTen2009.html

If you see that Scal is the twentieth worst player. There are bunch of homers on this board that like to imagine some dregs really help the team win - when in fact they hold the team back.

He's better than Mikki Moore.

Probably better than TA, JR Giddens, and (for now) Bill Walker too...

LOL RUDY GAY OVER SCAL!

GuyClinch wrote:Meh. he is pretty close to the worst player in the league. Scal and BBD were among the top 20 worst players in the league according to wages of win. Intangibles my *ss - Scal's plus minus is not great. Wages of win say he isn't great. I say he isn't great..

http://www.wagesofwins.com/BottomTen2009.html

If you see that Scal is the twentieth worst player. There are bunch of homers on this board that like to imagine some dregs really help the team win - when in fact they hold the team back.

Scal *is* pretty crappy...he made some big shots for NJ some years back and that inflated his worth. I like him and he's solid off the bench but he ain't great, folks...

chakdaddy wrote:He's better than Mikki Moore.

Probably better than TA, JR Giddens, and (for now) Bill Walker too...

Dude, if you were trying to defend him you didn't do a good job! Why not throw POB in there?

Guys like Walker and Giddens don't really rate.. because they don't play. Yes some guy on a 10 day contract is "technically" the worst in the league. But when you harsh on a guy for worst in the league your talking about a guy who is in the ROTATION.

You can make a good case that Scal is one the worst ROTATION guys in the league. BBD has picked it up late in the season and in the playoffs - but during the year (especially at the start) he was up there among those rotation worst players (hence the low rating).

And sorry TA was actually our best bench player for much of the year.. Powe and House came on and eclipsed him in this regard but he was up there.

That's why he is no where to be found on that list. Those guys are guys that play so poorly compared to a replacement player - that they rack up negative wins.

Now IMHO wages of win is not a perfect statistic but I would take it biased gushing. Sure you don't want to think the guy on your team sucks but he does..

I have many times referred to Scal as the worst player in the league and while it might overstate it a bit he is pretty close. Not that he doesn't add something to the team with perimeter shooting and smart plays but if you evaluated each player on what they would do with a 36 min a game starting role I can't imagine there are many players in the league, and no one on this team, that would produce less by any measure than Scal.

I have never understood the hate on TA. I mean he makes mistakes but at the same time he produces on both ends. By comparison we just had to watch a 7 game series with Eddie House, who only does one thing well, for 6 games he sucked at it and he plays one good game and he is a hero.

chakdaddy wrote:He's better than Mikki Moore.

This. Not even close.

^Sully, because Eddie isn't as flat out *dumb* as TA when he's on the floor...with TA your just waiting for him to make a boneheaded play...Eddie only shoots, yes, but he doesn't kill you with a stupid play nearly as often or egregious as TA...

Someone has a man crush on Scal.

Scal is definatley useful, but by no means a good player.

Probably the worst in the league...In fact, the only positive he brings is that he makes his teammattes play harder and better because they know he is so bad and they have to carry the liability.

Scal is mad clutch. Celtics wouldn't have beaten the Bulls without him, there were a handful of times Scal saved the Nets in the playoffs too. Gotta respect the real, and Scal is real as they come.

Scal came thru in game 7. He hit alot of early clutch shots.

ok worst players it goes all the way to 444 player. 20th worst in the league no dice. sorry still not great either.

363
Ryan Bowen , NOH
21 10.4 2.2 3.6 1.1 .4 0.7 0.24 16.66 3.62
364
* DeMarcus Nelson , GSW
13 13.2 4.1 3.6 1.8 1.0 0.7 0.15 13.21 3.62
364
Brian Scalabrine , BOS
39 12.8 3.5 3.6 1.3 .5 0.2 0.26 13.42 3.62
366
Shawne Williams , DAL
15 11.2 2.8 3.6 3.1 .1 0.1 0.6 15.28 3.6
367
Jermareo Davidson , GSW
14 7.9 3.0 3.6 2.4 .1 0.1 0.21 21.61 3.57
368
Kyrylo Fesenko , UTA
21 7.4 2.3 3.5 1.8 .2 0.3 0.71 22.77 3.52
369
Austin Croshere , SAS-MIL
14 7.2 2.9 3.5 2.4 .6 0.1 0.07 23.53 3.5
370
* Jerryd Bayless , POR
53 12.3 4.3 3.5 1.1 1.5 0.3 0.04 13.56 3.49
371
Patrick O'Bryant , TOR-BOS
39 6.6 2.6 3.4 1.7 .3 0.1 0.49 24.85 3.38
372
Dorell Wright , MIA
6 12.2 3.0 3.3 3.3 .3 0.3 0.0 13.09 3.33
373
Stromile Swift , PHX-NJN
19 9.7 3.3 3.3 2.4 .2 0.2 0.42 16.14 3.26
374
Mark Blount , MIA
20 10.4 4.0 3.2 2.0 .2 0.0 0.35 15.06 3.25
375
Alando Tucker , PHX
30 9.4 4.6 3.2 1.0 .4 0.2 0.03 16.49 3.23
376
* Bill Walker , BOS
29 7.5 3.0 3.1 1.0 .4 0.2 0.07 20.24 3.14
377
Adam Morrison , LAL-CHA
52 13.7 4.0 3.1 1.5 .8 0.2 0.08 10.94 3.12
378
Melvin Ely , NOH
31 12.0 3.1 3.1 2.1 .6 0.1 0.29 12.35 3.1
379
* Anthony Tolliver , SAS
19 10.9 2.7 3.1 2.2 .9 0.3 0.05 13.38 3.05
380
Anthony Roberson , CHI-NYK
29 9.5 4.1 3.0 .8 .7 0.3 0.03 15.32 3.03
381
Courtney Sims , NYK-PHX
2 6.5 3.0 3.0 2.0 .0 0.0 0.0 21.68 3.0
382
Marko Jaric , MEM
53 11.5 2.6 3.0 1.2 1.4 0.5 0.21 12.46 2.96
383
Morris Almond , UTA
25 10.3 3.7 3.0 1.4 .3 0.2 0.16 13.95 2.96
384
Kenny Thomas , SAC
8 7.8 .8 2.9 1.9 .1 0.8 0.12 17.87 2.88
385
Nazr Mohammed , CHA
39 8.7 2.7 2.8 2.0 .2 0.1 0.41 15.62 2.85
386
Royal Ivey , PHI
71 12.2 3.0 2.8 1.1 .6 0.5 0.1 11.26 2.84
387
Chris Mihm , LAL
18 5.7 2.0 2.8 1.9 .6 0.1 0.33 23.36 2.83
388
* Donte Greene , SAC
55 13.3 3.8 2.8 1.6 .5 0.3 0.26 10.19 2.8
389
Yakhouba Diawara , MIA
63 13.5 3.4 2.8 1.3 .4 0.2 0.1 9.88 2.78
390
Calvin Booth , SAC-MIN
8 7.0 2.0 2.8 1.4 .0 0.1 0.25 19.04 2.75
391
Jason Collins , MIN
31 13.6 1.8 2.7 2.3 .4 0.3 0.42 9.66 2.74
392
Chucky Atkins , OKC-DEN
33 12.5 3.0 2.7 .7 1.8 0.3 0.06 10.48 2.73
393
Dwayne Jones , CHA
6 8.7 2.0 2.7 2.0 .0 0.0 0.17 14.64 2.67
393
Jacque Vaughn , SAS
30 9.7 2.2 2.7 .7 1.8 0.2 0.0 13.16 2.67
395
Marcus Banks , TOR-MIA
22 9.3 2.5 2.6 .8 1.3 0.5 0.09 13.53 2.64
396
Matt Carroll , DAL-CHA
55 11.2 3.0 2.6 1.3 .5 0.4 0.11 11.23 2.62
397
* Darnell Jackson , CLE
51 8.4 1.9 2.6 1.7 .2 0.2 0.08 14.86 2.61
398
Jerome James , NYK
2 5.0 3.0 2.5 1.5 .0 0.5 0.5 24.41 2.5
399
Jason Hart , DEN-LAC
39 8.8 2.0 2.5 1.2 1.2 0.3 0.1 13.4 2.49
400
* Cartier Martin , CHA

Scal is mad clutch. Celtics wouldn't have beaten the Bulls without him, there were a handful of times Scal saved the Nets in the playoffs too. Gotta respect the real, and Scal is real as they come.

Had the C's had a better player in there they wouldn't have needed those "clutch" shots.

MyInsatiableOne wrote:^Sully, because Eddie isn't as flat out *dumb* as TA when he's on the floor...with TA your just waiting for him to make a boneheaded play...Eddie only shoots, yes, but he doesn't kill you with a stupid play nearly as often or egregious as TA...

I think it is BS, I think people have make their mind up about a guy and fit the pieces in as they go. Eddie makes a 3 and picks up a tech taunting the opponents bench in the 4th quarter of a playoff game how would you describe that?