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Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:52 am
by Pacino62
This makes me VERY uncomfortable. With all of the TJ Ford nonsense going on out there, why would Bird not match a reasonable offer for Jack? Could this bring more light to these fabricated Rondo rumors? UGH....I hope not...

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:55 am
by Bluewhale
It is simple. Money talks.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:57 am
by cisco
LOL. Rondo is not going to be traded for Ford.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:02 pm
by Pacino62
Nobody said he'd be traded for Ford. It doesn't mean that there isn't another team involved. The point is that Indiana is in talks with us....they just let a very young and talented point guard go for short money, leaving them with an injury prone TJ Ford. Something doesn't add up.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:03 pm
by cisco
Pacino62 wrote:Nobody said he'd be traded for Ford. It doesn't mean that there isn't another team involved. The point is that Indiana is in talks with us....they just let a very young and talented point guard go for short money, leaving them with an injury prone TJ Ford. Something doesn't add up.


Well, I don't think Rondo is being trade at all.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:11 pm
by Dave_From_NB
Pacino62 wrote:Nobody said he'd be traded for Ford. It doesn't mean that there isn't another team involved. The point is that Indiana is in talks with us....they just let a very young and talented point guard go for short money, leaving them with an injury prone TJ Ford. Something doesn't add up.


It could easily add up that Pruitt is going as part of the S&T. Or that Tinsley will get re-instated.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:13 pm
by Tricky Ricky
LOL If we do Rondo for Ford we better somehow be getting Granger also which is pretty much impossible

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:38 pm
by count55
Pacer fan here...I'd love to get Rondo for a package centered around Ford, but I find it completely outlandish. I question whether Rondo would be as much of a force without the players he has around him in Boston, he's still is much more promising and should have much more value than Ford.

I wouldn't worry about such a deal, because the only way I could see something like that happening would be if Rondo was actually an absolute nightmare in the locker room (which I don't think he is), and if he was, there's no way the Pacers would want to invite that back into their house...given their experience with Droopy McTinsleberry.

If Ford's involved in the Daniels deal, then it would be as a salary dump, probably for a package like Scal/TA/House + maybe a prospect or protected pick. That might put us in a position to avoid the tax next season (2010-2011). However, chances of that seem remote.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:02 pm
by Celts17Pride
count55 wrote: However, chances of that seem remote.


I agree.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:04 pm
by theman
How much is Jack's deal for?

If we are doing a S/T for Daniels could it also include Jack?

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:07 pm
by Bluewhale
Jack signed a four-year, $20 million offer sheet with Toronto last Monday.

Pacers is losing money (They already commit almost 60M money for next 2 year). Jack is not the difference maker. So it explains why they won't match.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:09 pm
by Celts17Pride
theman wrote:How much is Jack's deal for?

If we are doing a S/T for Daniels could it also include Jack?


No. Since Jack signed an offer sheet with Toronto if Indy matches then they can't trade Jack for a period of one year. So Jack can't be included in any sign and trade.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:11 pm
by GreenGrizz
Jack is not that good. Toronto is very desperate.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:13 pm
by canman1971
Who cares what Toronto does? Rondo is not being traded. Neither is Ray Allen. I wish people would just accept it and move on. Ainge did not bring in Wallace/Daniels so they can trade part of their core to rebuild chemistry again.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:26 pm
by Mike-Dub
Link please... and there is NO WAY WE ARE TRADING RONDO EVEN IF WE GET FORD!

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:32 pm
by Dave_From_NB
Mike-Dub wrote:Link please... and there is NO WAY WE ARE TRADING RONDO EVEN IF WE GET FORD!


For the Ford stuff? It's just twitter garbage, perhaps initiated by an 8 year old who was dropped on his head as an infant.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:33 pm
by cinful
Actually, this shouldnt really make any Boston fans nervous. If Ford was going to Boston, then it was likely the Pacers would match Jack and keep him as their starter. They arent matching, which tells me Ford isnt going anywhere.

The only possible exception to that would be some sort of sign-and-trade for Andre Miller.

And that seems highly unlikely unless its built into this Daniels deal.

Either way, theres no way Rondo is coming to Indy.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:50 pm
by Mike-Dub
Dave_From_NB wrote:
Mike-Dub wrote:Link please... and there is NO WAY WE ARE TRADING RONDO EVEN IF WE GET FORD!


For the Ford stuff? It's just twitter garbage, perhaps initiated by an 8 year old who was dropped on his head as an infant.


No... Link on saying Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer... Thx anyways though.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:55 pm
by Dave_From_NB
Mike-Dub wrote:
Dave_From_NB wrote:
Mike-Dub wrote:Link please... and there is NO WAY WE ARE TRADING RONDO EVEN IF WE GET FORD!


For the Ford stuff? It's just twitter garbage, perhaps initiated by an 8 year old who was dropped on his head as an infant.


No... Link on saying Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer... Thx anyways though.


lol - ok - it's in RealGM wiretaps.

Re: Jack: Indiana Won't Match Toronto's Offer

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:00 pm
by Mike-Dub
Lol... I just notice that... I'm an idiot haha.