Keeping Bill Walker

JSABleedsGreen · Post #1 » by **JSABleedsGreen** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:18 pm

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/20090823duty_calls_for_bill_walker_youth_outreach_important_to_celtics_guard/

I was reading the previous post about the possibility of the Marquis Daniels signing this week. An option for the sign and trade for Bill Walker was mentioned in that article. I'm not sure how the rest of you feel but I would really like if Ainge kept Walker on the team. Don't get me wrong I hope they work out a sign and trade for Marquis for at least 2 to 3 years (he's worth it) but not at the expense of Bill Walker. I think the kid has game. I linked an article from the Herald and it's ironic how close his storyline is to Leon Powe's. Coming from the gutter makes you humble or makes you stupid, but i think Bill Walker is the humble version of a player that came from nothing, based on that article.

I think the kid can be a great role player to a potential starter. He's got the god giving talents and his work ethics seem like he doesn't want to settle for just "role player". I don't know, I think it's a mistake if you let this kid go. They aren't many young players I say that about, the last time i remember saying that the C's were making a mistake in letting that player go was Joe Johnson.

What do you guys think?

Dave_From_NB · Post #2 » by **Dave_From_NB** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:12 pm

Yes he's similar to Powe, he's a knee injury waiting to happen. I believe the Celtics should target players who are likely to be healthy. Players who are injury prone shouldn't be drafted, and ones who develop into injury prone should be moved out. He's shown us close to nothing, and I'm doubtful he's going to before blowing a knee out again. Move him, I could care less.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #3 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:20 pm

Keep SKY WALKER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tn8az9rXyA

:eek1:

.....Old, but GOLD! AND SENSACIONAL! :bowdown:

Dave_From_NB · Post #4 » by **Dave_From_NB** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:51 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Keep SKY WALKER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tn8az9rXyA

.....Old, but GOLD! AND SENSACIONAL!

Oh good, he can make exhibition season dunks. What's next to amaze us, can he tie his own shoes?

kgnwally · Post #5 » by **kgnwally** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:57 pm

walker is a young athletic player but based on what i saw last year is not fundamentally sound. imo if ta and scal are being shopped around the celtics should add walker in there and try to find a replacement(if ever possible) for paul pierce down the road

Post #6 » by **sully00** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:02 pm

Dave_From_NB wrote:Yes he's similar to Powe, he's a knee injury waiting to happen. I believe the Celtics should target players who are likely to be healthy. Players who are injury prone shouldn't be drafted, and ones who develop into injury prone should be moved out. He's shown us close to nothing, and I'm doubtful he's going to before blowing a knee out again. Move him, I could care less.

You realize that Walker was like the 46th pick in the draft and Ainge just bought his rights for a lobster dinner, essentially the same with Leon. Guys usually taken in the mid to late second round don't even make teams.

What exactly is injury prone? Do only knee injuries count?

I guess it is time to unload KG for a couple of expirings he is injury prone.

Dave_From_NB · Post #7 » by **Dave_From_NB** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:21 pm

Sully, repetitive injury history is injury prone. TA has played 5 years, only exceeded 70 games twice, he's injury prone. Walker had 2 operations on his left knee and 1 on his right before he played an NBA game. KG has played 14 seasons, of those 12 were over 70 games. Ridiculous to compare the two.

Of course Ainge bought his rights for squat. 3'rd total knee injury, all GM's accepted what I do and it seems few others here do. Walker is highly likely to have a career cut short due to his knees, and is unlikely to meet the expectations of many here who somehow think he's destined to be a great NBA player because he can do that thing apparently many think extraordinary for the NBA, which is dunk the ball. Whoopdedo.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #8 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:06 pm

Dave_From_NB wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Keep SKY WALKER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tn8az9rXyA

.....Old, but GOLD! AND SENSACIONAL!

Oh good, he can make exhibition season dunks. What's next to amaze us, can he tie his own shoes?

First of all..I don't want him to stay just because of his dunks, but because I think he is extremely talented. And Wow..you acting like those are easy to do. The kid has game..and the 'tie his own shoes' ish was pretty childish..gee... :roll:

GuyClinch · Post #9 » by **GuyClinch** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:40 pm

^^^ All NBA players have more game then just dunking the ball. Bill like nearly every NBA player has an assortment of moves often off a reverse pivot. However can he make this work in the NBA? That's really the question. So far in his actual NBA play has been underwhelming..

This is why he gets attacked for just being a 'dunker' because he hasn't really made the rest of his game work at a high level yet.

Pete

SonicYouth34 · Post #10 » by **SonicYouth34** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:53 pm

I'd like to keep Bill. He has the most potential on our team after R^2

JSABleedsGreen · Post #11 » by **JSABleedsGreen** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:53 pm

It's kind of hard to show what you have to offer when you play meaningless minutes at the end of games or in blowouts. Last year he couldn't get in because Pierce and Allen had to play long minutes due to Garnett's injury. In addition Doc isn't really known for developing players....is he? I think Walker can ball not just dunk. By the way, the only reason why Walker fell in the drraft was because of his knee issue. He tore his ACL in high school and the other ACL at Kansas St. I guess time will tell but if you can keep him, they should......I love Scal but there's no room for him on the roster either. Besides he's injury prone too....with those concussions.

armageddon · Post #12 » by **armageddon** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:48 pm

I doubt walker has any trade value anyways so this argument is moot. Is he a fun guy to have at the end of your bench, yes. Does any team care about acquiring him, I doubt it.

Post #13 » by **sully00** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:04 pm

Dave_From_NB wrote:Sully, repetitive injury history is injury prone. TA has played 5 years, only exceeded 70 games twice, he's injury prone. Walker had 2 operations on his left knee and 1 on his right before he played an NBA game. KG has played 14 seasons, of those 12 were over 70 games. Ridiculous to compare the two.

Of course Ainge bought his rights for squat. 3'rd total knee injury, all GM's accepted what I do and it seems few others here do. Walker is highly likely to have a career cut short due to his knees, and is unlikely to meet the expectations of many here who somehow think he's destined to be a great NBA player because he can do that thing apparently many think extraordinary for the NBA, which is dunk the ball. Whoopdedo.

You don't know squat about Walker besides the fact that he had 3 procedures on his knee. Which is fine but don't act like you know something everyone else doesn't because you know nothing. The guy was one of the best scorers in the country as a sophomore. This isn't just a guy who can dunk.

What was the 3rd procedure Walker had on his knee? How many games did he miss? Let me help you none. He was out for 4 weeks in the offseason. Yes he missed the end of his freshman year with a torn ACL in his left knee. But the ACL he had on his right knee was 6 years ago when he was 15 years old.

Injury prone to me is a guy who is never available because of injury, TA is a player who doesn't seem to be able to hold up to the 82 game season fair example. But right now to be honest KG is injury prone for the past 3 seasons he has been unable to hold up to the grind, the history only matters for what it can tell you about the future.

Bill Walker is a guy with a history of knee injuries but he is not a player that struggles to be ready to play or stay in the line up.

The kid was one of the best players in the country and Boston got him for nothing. He was able to crack the line up of a title contender as a 21-22 year old rookie on occasion and his teammates thought he could have played more.

I would much prefer that Ainge continue to pursue players with NCAA success and NBA talent that have either injury history or less than ideal size than draft guys who are 6'9" and never been hurt but totally suck. But that is just me.

goulardi · Post #14 » by **goulardi** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:10 am

sully00 wrote:
Dave_From_NB wrote:Sully, repetitive injury history is injury prone. TA has played 5 years, only exceeded 70 games twice, he's injury prone. Walker had 2 operations on his left knee and 1 on his right before he played an NBA game. KG has played 14 seasons, of those 12 were over 70 games. Ridiculous to compare the two.

Of course Ainge bought his rights for squat. 3'rd total knee injury, all GM's accepted what I do and it seems few others here do. Walker is highly likely to have a career cut short due to his knees, and is unlikely to meet the expectations of many here who somehow think he's destined to be a great NBA player because he can do that thing apparently many think extraordinary for the NBA, which is dunk the ball. Whoopdedo.

You don't know squat about Walker besides the fact that he had 3 procedures on his knee. Which is fine but don't act like you know something everyone else doesn't because you know nothing. The guy was one of the best scorers in the country as a sophomore. This isn't just a guy who can dunk.

What was the 3rd procedure Walker had on his knee? How many games did he miss? Let me help you none. He was out for 4 weeks in the offseason. Yes he missed the end of his freshman year with a torn ACL in his left knee. But the ACL he had on his right knee was 6 years ago when he was 15 years old.

Injury prone to me is a guy who is never available because of injury, TA is a player who doesn't seem to be able to hold up to the 82 game season fair example. But right now to be honest KG is injury prone for the past 3 seasons he has been unable to hold up to the grind, the history only matters for what it can tell you about the future.

Bill Walker is a guy with a history of knee injuries but he is not a player that struggles to be ready to play or stay in the line up.

The kid was one of the best players in the country and Boston got him for nothing. He was able to crack the line up of a title contender as a 21-22 year old rookie on occasion and his teammates thought he could have played more.

I would much prefer that Ainge continue to pursue players with NCAA success and NBA talent that have either injury history or less than ideal size than draft guys who are 6'9" and never been hurt but totally suck. But that is just me.

Absolutely agree.

bc legends · Post #15 » by **bc legends** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:14 am

it would be a huge mistake to let go of walker, the kid has a lot of potential. definitely want to see him play more minutes this upcoming season.

Rocky5000 · Post #16 » by **Rocky5000** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:39 am

Bill Walker top 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1wM39T4PCE
Number 1 was hilarious when it happened.

kgnwally · Post #17 » by **kgnwally** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:04 am

bill walker is a young talent that can really emerge into a role player this season. if we are not getting anything that will help us right now whats the point of trading him. hes getting paid nothing to play behind and learn from some of the nbas greats. he will soon be a stud.

bc legends · Post #18 » by **bc legends** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:38 am

Rocky5000 wrote:Bill Walker top 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1wM39T4PCE
Number 1 was hilarious when it happened.

that was an amazing dunk on the phx players :lol:

i really hope we do keep him. i want to see his minutes increase this season.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #19 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:01 pm

Walker has done NOTHING in the NBA...I realize he seems like a nice kid, but c'mon, let's see him actually DO something to help us at the NBA level before we go ga-ga over him...

Post #20 » by **sully00** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:06 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:Walker has done NOTHING in the NBA...I realize he seems like a nice kid, but c'mon, let's see him actually DO something to help us at the NBA level before we go ga-ga over him...

How exactly is not wanting to dump him in a S&T so we can save a bi annual exception we never use for a back up swingman who can't shoot who will sign here anyhow, translate to going "ga-ga?"