Why we need a good backup PG

[Spin Move]

We have a stacked roster at this point, we have tons of depth up front a starter quality backup on the wings some really solid role players in eddie house and big baby who can both fill niches, star power galore, defensive guys, With the addition of sheed we would still have a prayer at a title with a hurt KG, Its also feasable given an injury to Pierce or Ray Daniels could provide us a playoff spark like he did in Dallas years ago that could push us to a title with some luck, sheed covers perks bum shoulders too. However if Rajon Rondo goes down with injury we have bupkis, eddie house cannot play enough defense to stay in the game for 30 minutes, Daniels could get by there for a while but not nearly the whole game, we need a pointgaurd who can bring up the ball and defend and let the other 4 guys score to compete for a title if rondo goes down. Given his super energetic high flying style of play it is not unrealistic to belive that at some point in the playoffs rondo might miss a series, for this reason, we desperatly need someone to back him up.

[Hemingway]

I agree 100% I hope we are trying to get AI or Marbury. Lue has backed out of the greek deal so maybe he is still an option. I don't think he would be enough if Rondo goes down but we could always sign him now and look for a better guard during the season if need be.

My thinking is we have come this far, why not go all out and get another point guard.

[bc legends]

I agree 100% I hope we are trying to get AI or Marbury. Lue has backed out of the greek deal so maybe he is still an option. I don't think he would be enough if Rondo goes down but we could always sign him now and look for a better guard during the season if need be.

My thinking is we have come this far, why not go all out and get another point guard.

agreed. antonio daniels is also probably on his way out of new orleans so we do have some decent options availible at the pg. we'll just have to see if they decide to give lester the backup spot or if they decide to wait until midseason to pick up a pg.

[SonicYouth34]

People always forget that you can run the offense through KG in the post or Pierce and Ray on the perimeter. If Rondo isn't in the game, I want one of those three running the show, especially in the playoffs.

[return2glory]

Spin Move, who was the PG for the great Bulls teams?

[SonicYouth34]

Spin Move, who was the PG for the great Bulls teams?

Something easier, who was the true point for the 80' Celtics teams?

[sully00]

I am not worried about Eddie stepping in for Rondo, nearly as much as who steps in for Eddie in the back up role. So we need another player who can defend the PG and either kill it from the 3 pt land or handle the ball.

It would appear by the make up of the roster either Lue is coming or they believe Hudson is an upgrade to Pruitt.

While I think the concern about this is way overrated the idea of seeing a backcourt of TA and 'Quis getting a lot of run makes we throw up in my mouth a little.

[Spin Move]

Spin Move, who was the PG for the great Bulls teams?

Defensivly it was Ron Harper, for the last 3 titles and he was an excellent defender of the position my main concern is not offensivly it is defensivly, I am not saying we need a great PG I am saying we have NO pg on our roster other then Rondo, no one who can stop penetration from an opposing teams point, the bulls had BJ armstrong, Ron Harper among others who played a big role, people forget that harper was an all star for the clippers.

[Jammer]

Spin Move, who was the PG for the great Bulls teams?

1991, 1992 & 1993 Championship Teams - PG Michael Jordan, with SG John Paxson in the slot, like Eddie House. On defense, they switched, Michael defended the SG, Paxson the PG.

1996, 1997 & 1998 Championship Teams - 6' 6" PG Ron Harper, who was also the PG on the 2000 and 2001 Laker Championship Teams.

[Jammer]

Virtually every year that Red Auerbach was associated with the Celtics, the 12 Active Players consisted of 2 C's, 2 PF's, a PF/C; 4 wings and 3 PG's.

The 5 BIgs this year are Perk, KG, Sheed, Baby and Scal.
The 4 Wings are Paul, Ray, Marquis and Tony OR Giddens.
The 3 PG's are Rajon, Eddie and TBD.

That's an Auerbach style roster.

I'd like Iverson, but I'd settle for Lester, for now. Unfortunately, Danny may not want to sign Lester, and then HAVE TO dump someone later. He may want to keep a roster spot open for mid-season buyouts.

Unfortunately, the way the CBA is written, if Lester does not go play in Europe, the Celtics have to tender Lester Hudson an offer by September 6, or the Celtics will lose their rights to him. They don't have to sign him, they just have to make him a 1 year offer. Does anyone know if the Celtics made the required tender offer to Lester (oh, just remembered, he's a second round pick. The Celtics don't have to guarantee the contract, just offer him one. Never mind.)

[Hemingway]

I really can't take seriously the position held by some that we do not need another point guard. Yes you can win without a great pg or without a decent back up pg, but your chances have to go down. Yes you can run the offense through whoever you want but if we get pressed do we want Eddie House taking the ball up?

[hairybyrd]

I agree with SonicYouth, there's a lot of players that need touches more than the back-up point guard.

I would much rather have Rondo, House, Daniels, Pierce, Allen, even KG and Wallace with the ball in his hands than Marbury. Just because he was a good PG at some point in time doesn't mean he didn't completely lose himself over the summer and probably hasn't picked up a basketball since the "Barbie Girl" video.

[sully00]

I really can't take seriously the position held by some that we do not need another point guard. Yes you can win without a great pg or without a decent back up pg, but your chances have to go down. Yes you can run the offense through whoever you want but if we get pressed do we want Eddie House taking the ball up?

You are banging your head against a wall. This team is not going to bring in another guard with the intention of him playing over Eddie House or Marquis Daniels. You can think it is a bad idea but for better or worse this is the plan Daniels will handle the ball and Eddie will be Eddie. If Eddie has to start then Pierce or Ray can bring the ball up if Eddie is having a hard time.

If you get pressed you pass the ball up the court and get a lay up it is the friggin NBA. Just because TA and Eddie was kind of a gruesome combo as a backcourt doesn't mean that it won't work with Daniels.

[ParticleMan]

um, have you guys forgotten we HAVE a pretty good PG?

we're talking about whether we need a BACKUP pg here.

to channel AI here.... BACKUP. we talkin bout a BACKUP.

that said, if we can get AI at the min, i'm all for it. but that's a snowball's chance in hell.

and i think Hemingway is the only person on the planet who actually thinks marbury is going to play in the NBA next season, let alone with us lol.

i think we are fine at PG. sure, i'd love chris paul as our backup but be realistic. tyronn lue is not the answer here, nor is anyone else available right now.

[GuyClinch]

Marquis Daniels can do an okay Ron Harper imitation - I am not worried. If someone gets hurt we have Hudson too.

[Celtics_85]

For those who don't think we need a PG should be OK with Hudson taking the last spot. Ainge and Doc liked his defense in the summer league and the guy can shoot, so let him get a look on the team. I would prefer a guy like Lue, but we'll see what Ainge does.

[Zin5]

We want a good backup PG, imo, all we absolutely need is someone that can bring the ball up for 5-10 minutes any given night (rest go to Rondo and House/with Ray, Pierce, or Daniels handling) and maybe sub in for Rondo for 20-25 if he goes down for any period of time. I'd be fine giving that role to someone like Tyronn Lue for now. I wouldn't really trust Hudson with that role right now. I might have trusted Pruitt and wish he got more PT last year in a similar role after his preseason, but that never happened.

The most important thing with this is if Rondo goes down. We need someone else we can at least feel comfortable taking backcourt pressure off of House&co for 20 or so minutes if he does go down. If he doesn't, then we don't absolutely need someone for that small role.

[GuyClinch]

^^^ The problem with 'we just need a guy to bring the ball up" is that if they are deficent at other aspects of the game its net negative. So to actually make this guy useful on the court he needs to be able to score, play some D etc. I am not convinced most of these third string PGs really do that well enough.

Pete

[Zin5]

I'd be fine with having someone who's deficient in other aspects of the game bringing the ball up than watching House turn it over before it even got to half court. You've got four other guys around the point guard that can score, which is the main duty of the point guard, to handle it and get it to someone to score. Lue's not terrible in other aspects of the game either. He can at least shoot from three pretty well. You're expecting too much out of someone who'd be just an 11th or 12th man on the team if you need them to do more than just bring the ball up.

[return2glory]

Spin Move, who was the PG for the great Bulls teams?

Defensivly it was Ron Harper, for the last 3 titles and he was an excellent defender of the position my main concern is not offensivly it is defensivly, I am not saying we need a great PG I am saying we have NO pg on our roster other then Rondo, no one who can stop penetration from an opposing teams point, the bulls had BJ armstrong, Ron Harper among others who played a big role, people forget that harper was an all star for the clippers.

If it's defense you want at the PG position, we still have TA here. If Hudson makes the team, he can play some defensive too with his quickness, speed, and long arms.