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Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:33 pm
by hairybyrd
Much has been said about the C's depth this year. Boston is hands down one of the most talented and formidable squads in the league but minutes are going to be a real issue (especially for guys like Perk and Baby who could really benefit from expansive roles). I have a few ideas as to who should be the 6th man.
Conventional wisdom says that Rasheed Wallace or Marquis Daniels will be the 6th man but, Ainge resists convention so let's think outside the box. Though unlikely, how about bringing-in KG off the bench? There has been talk about working-in KG slowly and even resting him for games at a time. If that's the case, the C's would be better served with a consistent starting 5 of Perk, Rasheed, Pierce, Allen and Rondo. KG would easily be the greatest 6th man of all time (and reminiscent of the roles Bill Walton and Dave Cowens played for the Celts years back). He would probably end up playing about 25 incredibly intense minutes in this role and would scare the bejesus out of second stringers. Using KG in this role might be the best way to preserve him until the playoffs roll around.
What does everyone think? Is this a good or bad idea? Why or why not is it good or bad? Please don't insult your own intelligence by just saying yes or no. I would be very interested to hear some thoughtful basketball analysis.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:39 pm
by sunshinekids99
KG is not at the point where he needs to play 25 minutes a game. He's too valuable to this team to have a reserve role. He needs to be playing around 32 minutes a game IMO. The 6th man of this team is Sheed.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:10 pm
by Hemingway
I had also had the idea of bringing KG off the bench. I think maybe for the first month or 2 it wouldn't be a bad idea. If we had a better 2guard bringing Ray off the bench could be an option to explore as well. At the end of the day, or in the case season, our 6th man is Sheed.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:40 pm
by BakersDozen
KG works so well with Rondo and Perk I wouldnt want to limit KG's minutes with those two.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:57 pm
by SonicYouth34
Quisy is the 6th. We have 4 starting caliber big men in Baby, KG, Sheed, Perk. On the other hand, Marquis is the best wing we have on the bench and is clearly better than everyone else we have behind Truth and Ray. He'll get 25+ mins a night.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:23 am
by bc legends
KG will probably be playing around 30mpg. In regards to the 6th man it'll be Sheed.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:01 am
by Rocky5000
Sheed, he'll get starters minutes, around 30 mpg. Perk and KG will each play around 30 as well, leaving only 6-10 minutes for Big Baby.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:44 pm
by theman
hairybyrd wrote:Much has been said about the C's depth this year. Boston is hands down one of the most talented and formidable squads in the league but minutes are going to be a real issue (especially for guys like Perk and Baby who could really benefit from expansive roles). I have a few ideas as to who should be the 6th man.
He would probably end up playing about 25 incredibly intense minutes in this role and would scare the bejesus out of second stringers.
Doc with want KG's intensity at the start of games to set the tone. Sometimes, conventional wisdom is just that.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:52 pm
by chas0x01
SonicYouth34 wrote:Quisy is the 6th. We have 4 starting caliber big men in Baby, KG, Sheed, Perk. On the other hand, Marquis is the best wing we have on the bench and is clearly better than everyone else we have behind Truth and Ray. He'll get 25+ mins a night.
Amazing isn't it. This is indeed a formidable frontcourt. Baby and Perks basically held down the frontcourt by themselves against Chicago and Orlando.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:55 pm
by jackwindham
It's definitely a tremendous interior rotation. Any combination of those four should allow the Celtics to remain competitive at all points of the game. Also would like to see the Celtics take advantage of their size advantage sometimes by pairing Garnett and Wallace at the forward spots (for short periods of time, that is).
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:59 am
by PP 4 Three
There's no way in hell KG coming off the bench will benefit us, in any way.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:47 am
by greenmachine_2849
Rocky5000 wrote:Sheed, he'll get starters minutes, around 30 mpg. Perk and KG will each play around 30 as well, leaving only 6-10 minutes for Big Baby.
I would all but guarantee a minimum of 15 mpg for Davis. The days of Garnett and Wallace being physically able to play 30+ mpg for 82 games are over, imo. Neither of them have been able to accomplish that feat in any of the past three seasons. Perkins, although he came close to doing so last year (29.6 mpg in 76 games), has had several injury-plagued seasons and playing him that many minutes is a gamble as well.
I mean, I understand that Perkins, Garnett, and Wallace are probably our top three big men, but the drop off going to the fourth (Davis) isn't THAT drastic. We came within a game of the ECFs with Davis as our starting power forward, after all. Why overplay the former three 30 mpg and run a high risk of one of them going down for a 20 game stretch, when you could give them a few less minutes per game (say 26 mpg), give the remaining minutes (18) to Davis, and dramatically reduce the probability of one or more of Perkins, Garnett, or Wallace suffering a serious injury. On a game-to-game basis, going from 30 minutes to 26 minutes isn't that big a deal (one less minute per quarter). The coaching staff should be able to work around it. But over the course of an 82 game season, that is about the equivalent of 11 less (30 minute) games played. And when your 35 years old like Wallace, or coming off major surgery like Garnett, I think that is huge.
Re: Who's the 6th Man this year?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:50 am
by greenmachine_2849
PP 4 Three wrote:There's no way in hell KG coming off the bench will benefit us, in any way.
Not saying I necessarily support the idea, but if it keeps Garnett healthy and in uniform for 82 games instead of 65 games, I think that would be beneficial to the Celtics. Though I think we can accomplish the same goal by keeping him as a starter but only giving him sixth-man minutes.