Young guys to target in the next few years MLE

[Hemingway]

When we were bad, the wanna-be GMs here had tons to talk about. The goal was simple: what is the best way to turn our team into a winner. Now the wanna-be GMs have much less to think about. For ow everything is gravy; we have a team that won it all and have added another all star. So the question that comes up is: What does the next generation great celtic team look like? Hopefully it is anchored by Rondo and Perk with some if not all of PP, RA, KG and Sheed playing roles and a new star player or two.

One option that has been discussed a great deal is to trade for a superstar. I think this all comes down to availability. Certainly we will try for LBJ, Wade, Durrant and others but so much depends on things out of our control to get them.

One option I have seen much less talk on is the prospect of bringing in a young guy with star potential that has yet to be realized to be groomed for a starter role. I think if we could find the right guy to back up PP, RA or KG for a few year and then take over the starting spot we would be in great shape and possibly avoid having to hit the guter for a few years. Additionally, I think we have enough talent now that we do not need to focus our MLE on the stars on the downside of their careers anymore.

So the question I pose to the board is who is out there that would be suitable for this role? What young player might take a long term MLE or less deal that might prove to be a steal a few years down the line? I really only watch Celtics games and random playoff and weekend ABC games so I dont have a great grasp on the guys underutilized on the lesser teams of the league.

Ideas?

[bceltic55]

One guy I would love to see on the Celtics is Kevin Martin, however he is not a MLE player. A young guard to take the place of Ray.

[BakersDozen]

Travis Outlaw.... I think Doc will push Danny to go after Mike Miller though.

[SonicYouth34]

Travis Outlaw.... I think Doc will push Danny to go after Mike Miller though.

He'd be a great pick up.

[vct33]

Here are a few guys could be MLE free agents given the current market situations. They all come up in the next few years and all have a very high ceiling. Some may not pan out and others may demand more than MLE but they should be guys to keep an eye on.

Thaddeus Young
Yi Jianlian
Courtney Lee
Nick Young
Carl Landry
Luc Mbah a Moute
Julian Wright
Corey Brewer
Travis Outlaw
Ronnie Brewer
CJ Miles
Brandan Wright
Anthony Randolph
Eric Gordon
Sergio Rodriguez

I'm sure there are another dozen or more that I didn't list.

[Leesdoinit]

When we were bad, the wanna-be GMs here had tons to talk about. The goal was simple: what is the best way to turn our team into a winner. Now the wanna-be GMs have much less to think about. For ow everything is gravy; we have a team that won it all and have added another all star. So the question that comes up is: What does the next generation great celtic team look like? Hopefully it is anchored by Rondo and Perk with some if not all of PP, RA, KG and Sheed playing roles and a new star player or two.

One option that has been discussed a great deal is to trade for a superstar. I think this all comes down to availability. Certainly we will try for LBJ, Wade, Durrant and others but so much depends on things out of our control to get them.

One option I have seen much less talk on is the prospect of bringing in a young guy with star potential that has yet to be realized to be groomed for a starter role. I think if we could find the right guy to back up PP, RA or KG for a few year and then take over the starting spot we would be in great shape and possibly avoid having to hit the guter for a few years. Additionally, I think we have enough talent now that we do not need to focus our MLE on the stars on the downside of their careers anymore.

So the question I pose to the board is who is out there that would be suitable for this role? What young player might take a long term MLE or less deal that might prove to be a steal a few years down the line? I really only watch Celtics games and random playoff and weekend ABC games so I dont have a great grasp on the guys underutilized on the lesser teams of the league.

Ideas?

What about Monte Ellis?

[BakersDozen]

What about Monte Ellis?[/quote]

he probally wouldnt want to play with Rondo,ha. Isn't he locked up for awhile anyways?

[dafunky1]

You guys might wanna take a look at Tryus Thomas. If he were in the Boston system,I think he would thrive. I think he is playing for a contract this year.

[Avalanche]

doesnt fit the young criteria, but if Daniels bolts after a decent season, anyone think Danny takes a look at TMac as a 6th man and back up ball handler? (assuming he is somewhat healthy this season)

[Avalanche]

You guys might wanna take a look at Tryus Thomas. If he were in the Boston system,I think he would thrive. I think he is playing for a contract this year.

I'm guessing hes on his last year like Aldridge, but wouldnt the bulls offer him a new deal.. i would think he would be more than a MLE player to a few teams

never know though, problem would be where to find room to play him, one of the main draws for him to come here would be to re-unite with Davis so you probably wouldnt be able to send him away.. Sheeds here for a couple of years and Perk/KG are obviously not going anywhere

Ive always wanted to get a young, long athletic dude in the mold of thomas/josh smith/randolph etc to back up and learn from Garnett, you dont see any guys who just roam the paint and perimeter guarding the whole floor like KG does and teaching a younger guy that skill could be invaluable

[Jammer]

Marquis Daniels has the Celtics 2010 MLE. Committed. Done Deal. It's illegal, but it's a done deal.

If the Celtics renegged, you can forget about significant free agents for a couple of years. Agents have a way of steering clients away from teams that backed out of a deal.

[sully00]

Marquis Daniels has the Celtics 2010 MLE. Committed. Done Deal. It's illegal, but it's a done deal.

If the Celtics renegged, you can forget about significant free agents for a couple of years. Agents have a way of steering clients away from teams that backed out of a deal.

No he doesn't that did not happen and there is no need. Daniels is looking to do what Posey did two years ago, turn being the 6th man on a championship team into a big contract. Why would Boston do what you are talking about? When Daniels and his agent talk about more money they mean on a one year deal. They may bring him back using the MLE but they aren't going to do anything that ties their hands for a bench player legal or otherwise.

[theman]

The guy Danny should have picked over JR Giddens, Deandre Jordan.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Speaking of Ellis- what do you do if Golden State calls offering up Ellis + (Biedrins? Jackson?) for Ray's expiring contract?

[GuyClinch]

Ellis + Biedrins - you probably have to pull the trigger on that but it would hurt our chances in the short term. Jackson no way though..

Pete

[sully00]

I think the real question with Ellis is whether or not Ainge offers up Rondo for him if they don't get a contract done. He has his flaws but he can score and gets steals and is a decent rebounder for a guard so that will give him a killer win score (which it does).

[Slartibartfast]

I think the real question with Ellis is whether or not Ainge offers up Rondo for him if they don't get a contract done. He has his flaws but he can score and gets steals and is a decent rebounder for a guard so that will give him a killer win score (which it does).

Not that killer. I don't have all that much fondness for scoring combo guards who can't run a team, are a step or two below the elite scorers of the league and don't make much of an impact defensively, like Devin Harris and Monta Ellis. I think Russel Westbrook will also end up in this category eventually.

Definitely not worth the MLE, but I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Dorell Wright next year. He strikes me as a Jamario Moon-esque late-bloomer.

[Zin5]

I think the real question with Ellis is whether or not Ainge offers up Rondo for him if they don't get a contract done. He has his flaws but he can score and gets steals and is a decent rebounder for a guard so that will give him a killer win score (which it does).

Not that killer. I don't have all that much fondness for scoring combo guards who can't run a team, are a step or two below the elite scorers of the league and don't make much of an impact defensively, like Devin Harris and Monta Ellis. I think Russel Westbrook will also end up in this category eventually.

Definitely not worth the MLE, but I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Dorell Wright next year. He strikes me as a Jamario Moon-esque late-bloomer.

Don't talk **** about Harris if you aren't familiar with anything about him other than his volume stats. He's very close to Rondo defensively and is only a score first guy now because he can score and has no one else to take the load off of him. In Dallas he facilitated that offense to the finals.

As for Ellis, I'm fine with the criticism. I wouldn't move Rondo for him and I wouldn't move Ray for him plus Biedrins. He can't shoot from outside which would not make losing Ray worth it.

[Slartibartfast]

I think the real question with Ellis is whether or not Ainge offers up Rondo for him if they don't get a contract done. He has his flaws but he can score and gets steals and is a decent rebounder for a guard so that will give him a killer win score (which it does).

Not that killer. I don't have all that much fondness for scoring combo guards who can't run a team, are a step or two below the elite scorers of the league and don't make much of an impact defensively, like Devin Harris and Monta Ellis. I think Russel Westbrook will also end up in this category eventually.

Definitely not worth the MLE, but I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Dorell Wright next year. He strikes me as a Jamario Moon-esque late-bloomer.

Don't talk **** about Harris if you aren't familiar with anything about him other than his volume stats. He's very close to Rondo defensively and is only a score first guy now because he can score and has no one else to take the load off of him. In Dallas he facilitated that offense to the finals.

As for Ellis, I'm fine with the criticism. I wouldn't move Rondo for him and I wouldn't move Ray for him plus Biedrins. He can't shoot from outside which would not make losing Ray worth it.

To each his own. I watched a fair amount of Devin Harris when he was with Dallas and I don't think as highly of his defense as you do. Man-to-man he can be solid when he puts his mind to it, but Rondo is far more of a disruptive force on defense, a much tougher defensive rebounder and a more defensive-minded guy in general.

Harris is not a great floor general and he didn't facilitate Dallas' offense to the Finals. Harris was a supplementary slasher and secondary playmaker for that team. Jason Terry and occasionally Marquis Daniels ran the point for the majority of that run. Harris averaged a whopping 2 assists for the entire playoffs.

By comparison Rondo's assist percentage (the percentage of fgs assisted by him while he was on the floor) during the C's title run was more than double Harris' on the Mavs finals run.