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Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:11 pm
by Swish14

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:18 pm
by ParticleMan
... yet again.

:roll:

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:28 pm
by Bad-Thoma
It's a shame that he's had such a run of **** luck. I've given up hoping he could stay healthy and resemble the player he was as a rookie, but if it ever happens I'll eat my crow with a smile.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:30 pm
by Dave_From_NB
Nice article.

Best news there, was that the civil part of that shooting incident was concluded this week. Maybe he'll get his life and his game back on track. Couldn't have been an easy thing to wipe out of the mind the last while.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:32 pm
by SonicYouth34
Tony is one of my favorite players and I hope he gets things together, whether or not he's on the C's.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:41 pm
by captain green
He can't play point guard and the two guard is stacked he's to short for the three, legal issues and goofy on court awareness makes it hard for him to get any pt. He is still the 2nd best defense sg and 4th offensive sg though(counting daniels as sg in this as well as sf)

house,allen, daniels, baby, sheed= 2nd unit is good but I see him 9th or 10th of the bench when healthy.
hudson,giddens,walker,scalabrine,williams= 3rd unit. Walker and allen and scal are the 3 left off active roster list to start season. Which means a small amount of pt for giddens to earn if he does good then it will be even a harder hill to climb for him to get back, I think he's done with us gone at mid season.
wow woulda, coulda, shoulda with this guy. I was happy with him over west, injuries man they suck.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:00 pm
by Lewis35
3 years ago Allen was putting up career numbers on one of the worst teams in Celtics history and people are still writing stuff like that that make people think that Allen actually has potential. Allen will have one or two games where he puts up decent numbers. Then he will have 5 or 6 in a row where he goes for every ball fake, take ridiculous shots (which he will in turn miss badly) and dribble the ball off his foot.

Allen is never going to be anything more than an injury prone player who will struggle to crack the rotation on a team.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:15 pm
by Red2
swell

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:19 pm
by Prophet_C
Don't we hear this every damn year with him?

Put up or shut up.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:23 pm
by Cyclical
I bought it the first 7 times they were selling it and I'm in line again. Damn I'm getting hungry.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:52 pm
by Kefa461
Let's hope for the best......it only helps the C's in every way.








8-)

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:57 pm
by DelMonte West
I don't think he has "bad luck". Wasn't his original injury one that was kept hush-hush within the organization (and, coincidentally, happened the same day as his "F him up" incident)? Sounds like a direct result of his judgement, just like his beyond-moronic botched dunk after a blown whistle.

I was thinking about this the other day and realized he's kind of like Antoine Walker, in the sense that he was great during his rookie season, but has steadily gotten worse every year (I guess you could argue Walker's peak was his first 3 years, but it's the same premise).

Same old stuff, different year.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:40 pm
by chas0x01
You'd think that after all this time TA's game would mature, but his flaws and weaknessess never seem to improve. TA will play ahead of Walker and Giddens who I think will spend a little more time in the DL this season. If TA's' healthy he'll get some PT and a chance to contribute. But with Hudson pushing hard, and Scal expected to play some SF, and obviously Marquis being in the mix, TA will have to really impress if he wants to stay relevant.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:57 pm
by Scalamental
SonicYouth34 wrote:Tony is one of my favorite players and I hope he gets things together, whether or not he's on the C's.


+1 I can't hate on a guy that hasn't done anything to hurt our chances to a championship. If all he has is potential, that's fine with me, at least he's not going Isiah on everybody.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:42 am
by sam_I_am
Tony Allen as a rookie was special. He dominated the rookie all star game. He dominated in summer league. He was better than Ricky Davis - but we were showcasing Davis to some extent.

Unfortunately he hurt his knee. Even though injured he still has enough talent to be a good player but he can no longer get by with bad shot and poor judgement. I still think he could be a decent bench player before all is said and done. But the guy with the sensational athletic ability and nose for the rim that we saw in his rookie season is gone.

Marquis Daniels has made the backup SF, SG position obsolete. Walker, Giddens and Allen fill no need for this team anymore. The only minutes available will be as defensive stopper. If Allen can prove he can guard Kobe.... perhaps he gets some play. If Giddens can show he can guard Lebron or Melo.... then maybe minutes are there.

But as regular rotation players..... Pierce, Allen, Daniels and House make the other 3 completely irrelevent.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:35 am
by GregB
Man, I have always been a Tony Allen fan. But, I think that ship has finally sailed with the addition of Marquise Daniels. Their is a reason it's on hoopsworld and not a major news outlet. Even, If he is healthy, Tony would be lucky to be our 10th man. He is nothing more than an expiring contract at this point.

Tony was arguably our best young two way player before his Knee injury after the whistle. Sadly, He just hasn't been able to stay healthy.

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:38 pm
by captain green
DelMonte West wrote:I don't think he has "bad luck". Wasn't his original injury one that was kept hush-hush within the organization (and, coincidentally, happened the same day as his "F him up" incident)? Sounds like a direct result of his judgement, just like his beyond-moronic botched dunk after a blown whistle.

I was thinking about this the other day and realized he's kind of like Antoine Walker, in the sense that he was great during his rookie season, but has steadily gotten worse every year (I guess you could argue Walker's peak was his first 3 years, but it's the same premise).

Same old stuff, different year.



Yeah really!!!
Antoine walker: Totals: 893 GAMES 35.3 MPG 7.7RPG 3.5 APG 1.2 SPG 17.5 PPG

tony allen: Career -- 282 GAMES 18.8 MPG 2.6 RPG 1.3APG 1.0SPG 7.4 PPG

No where close dude and his peak was year 4, 5 and 6. No it's not the same premise tony never played more games than his rookie year @77 games then declined...Antoine Walker played 12 years and only 2 of those years did he go below 77 games his 3rd year and his last year. come on man.... gerald green has a .1 better scoring avg than tony and similar stats with less games maybe that's who you meant..

Re: Tony Allen Ready to Bounce Back

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:48 pm
by AlCelticFan
DelMonte West wrote:Sounds like a direct result of his judgement, just like his beyond-moronic botched dunk after a blown whistle.

I think you're totally wrong. He dunked the ball. He's probably dunked the ball oh a billion times in his life. He just happened to hurt himself.