Baby = Problem....

[mainevent3405]

I posted this in Celticsblog...

Glen Davis is gonna be a problem this year. In the Rhondo article on the main page by Roy, its mentioned that a younger player (advised by RR) said something last year to destroy chemistry. I bet money it's Baby. Now today comes the article from the Herald about Davis and he is basically saying he's not happy he re-signed. He doesn't want to go back to "back-up" minutes and wished he would have signed elsewhere to be a starter.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bask ... rticleFull

From the writer:
Glen Davis has become a walking adjustment.

Coach Doc Rivers has demanded more rebounding out of the third-year forward, so he’s put renewed effort into grabbing boards.

Rasheed Wallace’s arrival on the second unit has led the coaching staff to ask Davis to holster the jumper that put him on the national radar during last spring’s Eastern Conference semifinals, so he’s taken up more of a paint-oriented role.

But Davis’ biggest change - and this is strictly a work in progress - is the need to contain his ego.

Kevin Garnett’s return from knee surgery means Davis’ prime-time role will be reduced. He’s back to being a reserve and sometimes envisions the worst possible result from it.

“It’s real difficult to go back, from playing 30 minutes or even 35 on a good night, to playing 12 or 15 on a good night,” Davis said.

As a result, Davis now faces a significant mental challenge. He must accept a smaller role.

“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

In a sense, Davis’ offseason issues went unresolved. He signed a two-year contract with the Celtics after failing to receive another offer as a restricted free agent.

Asked if he had hoped for an offer from a team with a need for a starting power forward, Davis said, “Yup.”

I personally would have been happier if they would have re-signed Leon and signed and packaged Baby and Tony for another big to help out, at least until Leon returned. Leon was the ultimate professional and a TEAM player. Baby is selfish, spoiled, whines, cries and mark my words is gonna throw a tantrum before this is all over. Baby is about Baby. Period.

I see nothing good in re-signing him.

[GregB]

He didn't get paid because no one thought he was a starting PF and no team was willing to pay him full MLE to come off the bench. Baby is a solid offensive player and a good offensive rebounder. But, His defensive rebounding is pretty sub par. He can whine all he wants but all 3 guys in front of him are better.

[Al-Haqq]

Not sure why no one has told him what to expect, so he has some legitimate beef there.

[bendyone]

If Baby was a starting PF, it would be on a lottery team. What fun is that? I'd rather winning.

[John Locke]

What did he think was going to happen? KG and Sheed playing 5 minutes a game, and him and Perk posting up for 38 minutes each?

And why would anyone tell him what to expect? No one knows it. People come to camp to prove themselves. The rotation isn't decided in the summertime. It would've been bad if Doc told him this summer: "Listen, you won't play more than 15 minutes a game." And then maybe KG's knee would've acted up. Nobody knew. Baby just has to figure these kind of things out.

I HATE this kind of mentality. Where guys would rather play more and be on a losing team, just to prove something to some people. LOSER mentality.

[return2glory]

BBD is young and talented. He deserves to play more than 12-15 minutes. It's a long season. He will get his minutes. IMO, BBD is better than Sheed at this point in their careers. Look at what BBD did and what Sheed did in the playoffs last year. That being said, we need BBD and Sheed both to be productive. People need to realize that Sheed isn't 26, he is 36 and not the player he used to be. IMO Daniels he just as good a signing, if not a better signing than Sheed.

[Al-Haqq]

Why should Sheed and Baby conflict ...?

Can't we use Sheed to back up Perk and Baby to back up KG?

[GuyClinch]

Big Baby needs to quit his crying. Its not like great offers were rolling in and he sacrificied to sign with us..

Pete

[OaklandLakers]

That rotation could be deadly this season but seein that article does cause some concern. I'd just shut up and continue playing ball for a historic franchise with a right now roster.

[cloverleaf]

IMO Sheed is still way more valuable than Baby and should be getting starter minutes--while Baby shouldn't. Baby's like an opportunistic infection in a starting lineup: if he's present in it, the lineup isn't too healthy or strong.

[Dave_From_NB]

The guy shows once again why the nickname Big Baby is appropriate.

Cry me a river, if he didn't want to sign with the Celtics he could have signed with Burger King and worked at the Drive Through. Doc told him to rebound because his defensive rebounding has sucked for 2 years, and his offensive rebounding has only looked good because he has so many opportunities after being blocked in the paint. Suck it up girlie, you're a backup because you're not in the same class as Perk, KG, and Wallace.

[Prophet_C]

Not sure why no one has told him what to expect, so he has some legitimate beef there.

No he doesn't. No team wanted him in the role he wants. He knew he wasn't going to be a starter when he resigned and would be on the bench playing far less minutes than last year as a result of KG going down. He should just shut up and play.

[cisco]

Jumping to conclusions are we?

I don't see where Baby says he's not willing to accept a lesser role. He said he "doesn't know how to do it YET. " Implying that he will. So I'm not seeing what the problem is. It's only been a few pre-season games and he didn't play the last two because of his injured back, so I wouldn't expect that adjustment to be made so quickly. So like I said, I'm not seeing what the problem is. And I think conclusions are being made about him unfairly. I suspect that the OP was never fond of Baby in the first place.

[sully00]

Yeah the mins and role issues are overblown he is betters suited for the role he is in this season than what he was doing early last year. Sure everyone wants to start and score a 20 ppg but Davis will get plenty of mins especially with them looking to limit KG's mins early in the season.

My guess is that Baby was the knucklehead who spoke up in Rondo's meeting but it isn't like he would have ever called that meeting. He is immature for certain but he is not going to be a problem unless he is out of the rotation all together.

More importantly it is one thing to get lippy with Ray and Paul, it would be another to do it with KG and now add in Sheed Baby is just going to march.

It is time to let the Leon crap go, he isn't acting very professional right now telling everyone that will listen that the organization "lied to him" because they didn't give him millions of dollars he couldn't earn because he was injured, were is the "class" in that. He turns around and signs a minimum deal with the Cavs and realizes now that it was mistake because he severed his bird rights and he acted impulsively. All of his bitching and moaning won't change the fact that he can't play and probably won't be able to for most of the season.

[Kids Are Alright]

Disagree with my fellow Mainer on this one....I kinda think that young NBA players ought to be headstrong types, especially those that are going to be career players. So Baby is misshapen and will never start, too bad. But his hunger for minutes will make him a more aggressive player and that will only help us in the end.

[AlCelticFan]

The issue to me isn't that he is disappointed he didn't get a starting role, or that he doesn't know what to expect for the season. I feel the issue is that instead of talking to the right people in the organization he's telling these things to the media, which will only make him look bad. I guess that is the definition of immature: he doesn't know from experience that that is a bad idea, because he is so young still. Take your gripes to the proper people. The media is just there to make you look stupid Glen!!!

P.S. I do think it is time for a new nickname, I think it is bad mojo. =D

P.P.S. I'm sure he will fit into his role fine. I agree with cisco. BB just talks too much; right now he's uncomfortable with what feels like a step back, but he'll adapt.

[JSABleedsGreen]

Big Baby is a p*ssy. What player in their right mind thinks that with KG, Perk, Sheed on the team is going to get 35 minutes a game. I doubt he's going to get 12-15 either. Specially if Perk gets in foul trouble which he does a lot. Also KG is not gonna play 35+ minutes a games to start the year nor to end the year.....KG will start with 25-30 at most and there are gonna be some nights when he only gets 20 because the competition is terrible.

Also i doubt management would say...."Big Baby ur gonna get 30+ every night guaranteed". I agree with an earlier post that this i wish i sign elsewhere and played more minutes for a loser team is a losing attitude.

Also another person wrote that it's time for name change and ur right it's ruining his mojo. They should call him "Big P*ssy". He should just shut up and play ball. He did alright last year because he shut his mouth and decided to play ball.

[sully00]

I really like Davis but I am with JSA. He is playing 19 mpg in the preseason and playing well, it isn't likely to change all that much but he wants Doc or Danny to come out and tell him that and it isn't going to happen. His mins are always going to be based on his effort and performance and a given situation. If he performs he is going to play if loafs and plays and poorly he won't

[celticfan42487]

Of course he said "Yes" to hoping he would get a starting role and starting money. That's was a legitimate possibility for him.

Baby just talks. And I don't think he's said anythign detrimental to the team. But I'm sure none to less people would like him to stfu when it comes to how he is feeling. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garrnet. They've all keeped it behind closed doors throughout their careers.

[Bad-Thoma]

People really jumping down babies throat for some really mild comments. Of course he'd rather play more minutes, and of course after getting a taste and being productive it's hard to go to less. Any young player is going to want to start if they can get the opportunity as well. This is a big who gives a ****. Baby plays hard when he is out there, and plays with emotion.