Page 1 of 6
Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:40 am
by Avalanche
STEIN_LINE_HQ
Where do we turn next for our NBA trade chatter now that Stephen Jackson has been moved. We're hearing of a potential new three-way deal
Word is this is an exploratory discussion at the minute, but the key elements would be Nocioni to BOS, Dalembert to SAC, Cap Relief to PHI
Particulars as they stood early Tuesday AM, with Kenny Thomas representing the potential cap relief, found here
http://tinyurl.com/ygez4nw
from the general board
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:59 am
by Kefa461
Sounds like a deal is in the start up phase at least.........
ps.....it does work in the trade checker.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:11 am
by BillessuR6
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... ossibilitySources told ESPN.com that the Philadelphia 76ers and Sacramento Kings, in considering the feasibility of a Samuel Dalembert-for-Kenny Thomas swap, have discussed expanding that concept with Boston by trying to draw in the Celtics on a potential three-way deal that would land Andres Nocioni with the Celts.
Sources further stressed over the past 48 hours that this should be classified as an ongoing conversation as the teams involved decide how much they like what’s on the table.
But the full deal as it stands, if it eventually gets that far, would send Nocioni to Boston, Kenny Thomas, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine to Philadelphia and Dalembert and J.R. Giddens to Sacramento.
This would be the best possible trade for Boston and give us brilliant top 10 + Sheldon, Walker,Hudson.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:12 am
by BRUNiNHO91
I wonder who we are giving up...?=x
Eddie, Marquis, Nocioni, BBD and/or Shelden, Rasheed..that's a really good bench. We would be 11 deep..and we wouldn't have to see Scalabrine on the court at all! I love it..get it done Danny!
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:14 am
by BRUNiNHO91
thebirdman wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/10741/the-next-big-trade-heres-a-three-team-possibility
Sources told ESPN.com that the Philadelphia 76ers and Sacramento Kings, in considering the feasibility of a Samuel Dalembert-for-Kenny Thomas swap, have discussed expanding that concept with Boston by trying to draw in the Celtics on a potential three-way deal that would land Andres Nocioni with the Celts.
Sources further stressed over the past 48 hours that this should be classified as an ongoing conversation as the teams involved decide how much they like what’s on the table.
But the full deal as it stands, if it eventually gets that far, would send Nocioni to Boston, Kenny Thomas, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine to Philadelphia and Dalembert and J.R. Giddens to Sacramento.
This would be the best possible trade for Boston and give us brilliant top 10 + Sheldon, Walker,Hudson.
Holy **** ****. WE TRADE SCALABRINE?Man..if this is true... DO IT..NOW!!!!
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:21 am
by BillessuR6
I would like Scal back. Hopefully he would get bought out...
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:35 am
by GuyClinch
^^^I can live without him.
I know he is a boston fan favorite but a free roster spot could come in handy..
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:15 pm
by Celtics_Champs
Out goes scal. In comes nocioni.
Please ainge, please get this done.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:16 pm
by BRUNiNHO91
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:22 pm
by BillTheGOAT
so we get rid of TA,scal and giddens and get nocioni...so we have 2 roster spots available. I think scal will be bought out and return...then we could sign someone at the deadline......
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:25 pm
by Bad-Thoma
Getting rid of 3 guys who barely see the floor for a guy who will? I like it. Nocioni plays hard and pisses people off too, also I like it. Seems too good to be true though...
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:29 pm
by BRUNiNHO91
corndog wrote:so we get rid of TA,scal and giddens and get nocioni...so we have 2 roster spots available. I think scal will be bought out and return...then we could sign someone at the deadline......
He probably would get bought out..you know why? Because he SUCKS...why would we get rid of this **** loser, and want to sign him again?Sheesh...
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:39 pm
by BillTheGOAT
no he doesn't suck....he knows our system and is a team player...we need him for depth and he does so many good things in general.
**btw, this mean no ray allen next year
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:41 pm
by Kefa461
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:43 pm
by Lewis35
This sound too good to be true. However I can see the logic because Nocioni has a rather large contract.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:02 pm
by ryaningf
The salary ramifications of this deal are very hard to swallow.
I don't like taking on MLE money for a bad defending, perimeter oriented 3/4. That's money that would be better spent next season locking Daniels into a MLE contract, or resigning Ray and later Perk. It just doesn't make fiscal sense, nor basketball sense. We're already perimeter oriented on the 2nd unit--this deal would make it worse and make our defense worse as well.
Nocioni just isn't that good and he makes too much money.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:08 pm
by klemen4
The best possible trade if this happens
Scal, Allen, Giddens FOR Nocioni
RONDO/DANIELS
ALLEN/HOUSE
PIERCE/NOCIONI
GARNET/DAVIS/WILLIAMS
PERKINS/WALLACE
+WALKER,HUDSON
11 man deep bench...amazing!!!
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:13 pm
by darrendaye
Hopefully this comes to fruition. I'm not a huge fan of Nocioni, but for the role the team needs, he's a solid fit. Moreso, I would be happy to have another tradeable asset in a season or two.
I will state that I believe that there is an irrational distain for TA and Scal by some on this board, however.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:16 pm
by Lewis35
ryaningf I would not be that worried. 98% of the time these trade rumors are just that. I doubt anything will happen.
Re: Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:17 pm
by darrendaye
ryaningf wrote:The salary ramifications of this deal are very hard to swallow.
I don't like taking on MLE money for a bad defending, perimeter oriented 3/4. That's money that would be better spent next season locking Daniels into a MLE contract, or resigning Ray and later Perk. It just doesn't make fiscal sense, nor basketball sense. We're already perimeter oriented on the 2nd unit--this deal would make it worse and make our defense worse as well.
Nocioni just isn't that good and he makes too much money.
You're assuming that by taking on the contract that the team will be unwilling to spend the MLE next offseason? Otherwise, while I concur with your assessment that he will be overpaid for his worth, he has a role that he can fill on the team backing up Pierce and will be a trade chip after next season as an expiring contract. More to the point, I get the sense that there will not be many beneficial trade offers for this bundle of players on another $7mm salaried contributory player.
????