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I missed last nights game but looking at the box score was happy to see Tony Allen's line. Did he look good out there? I really would love to see him return to prechampionship season form or close to it. He and Big Baby could be exactly what this team needs to challenge the Lakers for the best record this season. I feel if Tony can consistently provide 10 minutes a game that Ray Allen can cut down his minutes which is a must and our team defense could get stronger.

I have to admit that I have been disappointed with his career but still believe in the player he could be.

Some tough D, but also some mistakes. Made some shots and did his thing though. Typical TA stuff.

Not a big Tony Allen fan but he was outstanding last night and one of the main reasons for the win IMO. He played within himself, played good defense and crashed both boards. Very active on defense. Great night for TA.

The only negative play and a pet peeve of mine is he got a defensive rebound and started to dribble up the court, Rondo was screaming for the ball ahead of him and TA ignored him and then proceeded to double dribble for a turnover. TA get the ball to Rondo, you are not a PG.

Overall a good performance from TA.

The good:
- Provided a sorely missing element of physicality in crashing the glass on offensive and defensive side of the ball.
- ATTACKED the basket on offense, finished well with contact. Again, a trait nearly devoid on this team beyond Rondo, Pierce, Perk, and a couple ally-oop tries by KG.
- Pressure defense.

The bad:
- As mentioned above, did not pass to Rondo on that one rebound. I believe it was a palming violation.
- Poor defensive positioning a handful of times, also two pretty mindless fouls trying to bully through picks.

I rarely have problems with Tony Allen when he plays his game. That is - don't dribble, don't shoot outside unless wide open, and play solid defense. He is a good defender but he has a horribly low basketball IQ. He's in the realm of Zach Randolph in terms of bone-headedness. He did play within himself last night except one mistake, but it's easier to blame him for it because he's Tony Allen. It's rare to see players not make any mistakes at all, especially those just coming back from injury and not being used to the unit they're playing with. Given time, he'll still be a bonehead, but he can be a useful 10th-11th man, and definitely a step-up over Giddens.

LanFill wrote:I rarely have problems with Tony Allen when he plays his game. That is - don't dribble, don't shoot outside unless wide open, and play solid defense. He is a good defender but he has a horribly low basketball IQ. He's in the realm of Zach Randolph in terms of bone-headedness. He did play within himself last night except one mistake, but it's easier to blame him for it because he's Tony Allen. It's rare to see players not make any mistakes at all, especially those just coming back from injury and not being used to the unit they're playing with. Given time, he'll still be a bonehead, but he can be a useful 10th-11th man, and definitely a step-up over Giddens.

I agree with you for the most part, but the bone-headedness is a bit overblown. Yes he makes some mistakes on D, but that comes from being aggressive and drawing tough assignments. When he was on the court, he was pretty much always on Arenas, who is one of the best scorers at his position in the league.

The thing about his dribbling is this. He can handle a bit, but I think he's a bit unsure of himself and that palming violation or whatever the call was, was an example of that.

I never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever want to see TA on the floor during a playoff game again.

Unless it is for the other team.

Tony Allen did things in limited minutes last night, that Daniels hasn't been able to do. TA was a spark off the bench and our best bench player last night.

He was aggressive in attacking the basket. He finished very well. Made 4 of 5 shots. But another thing he did better than Daniels is that he crashed the offensive boards. This team is missing energy at times during the game and I have been saying that TA and Glen Davis can give us that.

I just hope Tony Allen can stay healthy. And its too bad he isn't white, because he would be more liked in the Celtics nation.

Tony Allen did things in limited minutes last night, that Daniels hasn't been able to do. TA was a spark off the bench and our best bench player last night.

He was aggressive in attacking the basket. He finished very well. Made 4 of 5 shots. But another thing he did better than Daniels is that he crashed the offensive boards. This team is missing energy at times during the game and I have been saying that TA and Glen Davis can give us that.

I just hope Tony Allen can stay healthy. And its too bad he isn't white, because he would be more liked in the Celtics nation.

Yes. Better than Marquis has been over the past month for sure. Good to see him back. As long as he doesn't have to handle the ball he should be of great help out there. Excellent D. On the offense side I just hope Doc doesn't have him out there too often as a spread-the-floor, camp-around-the-arc guy as he used to way too often. Tony is great slashing to the basket, rebounding and hustling close to the paint. Let's keep it that way.

I wasn't expecting much coming off another injury, but he played well and stayed within his role.

return2glory wrote:I just hope Tony Allen can stay healthy. And its too bad he isn't white, because he would be more liked in the Celtics nation.

His likability has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with the fact he is braindead on the basketball court.

Even though he played well last night he still lead the team in pointing to his chest and saying "my bad".

From the wiretap:

"I'm not expecting Tony to be a world beater," head coach Doc Rivers said. "He hasn't played in so long. I don't want him on the floor too long. He's not played enough to think that he's going to play great. I've got to be careful with him."

"I'm glad he did say that because I don't even know if I can play over 13 minutes," Allen admitted. "I don't know if my ankle could take 15 minutes right now at this point. But once I get the opportunity I'm going to go for it. And like I say, practice, practice, practice, practice, work, work, work, massage, massage and treatment. That's all I can do at this point. And get better."

God, so now people are trying to use the race card with the "if he was white...". Get out of here with that crap.

You honestly think Raef, Jiri, Googs, Dickau, and Scal weren't booed by Boston fans? If anything I'd argue that Celtic fans have become more tolerable of black players instead. I've NEVER heard a Celtic booed to the degree that Scal was when he'd simply report to the scorer's table when our team was in the toilet. Mark Blount at his apathetic, rebound-avoiding, pass-fumbling worst had NOTHING on Scal back then.

return2glory wrote:Tony Allen did things in limited minutes last night, that Daniels hasn't been able to do. TA was a spark off the bench and our best bench player last night.

He was aggressive in attacking the basket. He finished very well. Made 4 of 5 shots. But another thing he did better than Daniels is that he crashed the offensive boards. This team is missing energy at times during the game and I have been saying that TA and Glen Davis can give us that.

I just hope Tony Allen can stay healthy. And its too bad he isn't white, because he would be more liked in the Celtics nation.

that last sentence is so true. i think he really is too black for a lot of people. the way he attacks the basket and plays on ball d, i don't see how he wouldn't win every fan over. just because he doesn't have the highest iq, people don't notice the heart. he had a +/- of 14 btw, by far the highest on the team.

DelMonte West wrote:God, so now people are trying to use the race card with the "if he was white...". Get out of here with that crap.

You honestly think Raef, Jiri, Googs, Dickau, and Scal weren't booed by Boston fans? If anything I'd argue that Celtic fans have become more tolerable of black players instead. I've NEVER heard a Celtic booed to the degree that Scal was when he'd simply report to the scorer's table when our team was in the toilet. Mark Blount at his apathetic, rebound-avoiding, pass-fumbling worst had NOTHING on Scal back then.

I like Scal. But look at the reaction Scal gets from the fans. They love him. TA comes back after 2 months and the Celtic fans at home could care less. And everyone here underestimates want TA can do. Call it race card or whatever else you want to call it, but TA would be treated a lot better if he was white.

And that Celtics fans have become more tolerable of black players statement you made is kind of racist. I like TA if he were white, black, or any other race or color. Someone on this thread just called him braindead. How many white players have ever been described as braindead?

Bottom line is TA is a good player and can help us win. He just needs to same healthy.

Captain_Caveman wrote:I never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever want to see TA on the floor during a playoff game again.

Unless it is for the other team.

Well you didn't say that he didn't play well last night, so I assume this is your way of approving his play last night?

I agree with R2G in that TA would be received a lot better if he were white. But I don't think it's because fans prefer white players to black players, even though great majority of fans at a Celtics game are white. Whether it's fair or not, there are a lot more black players than white players, so guys like Scal stand out a lot more. And for most non-diehard fans like us on this board, TA might as well be Giddens, Walker or some other bench player, so most fans don't recognize him nor they know that he was coming back from an injury.

TA isn't a perfect player and he's prone to some mistakes, but he can be an asset to this team. I have said this before, but when he gets consistent PT, he usually performs pretty well. And often times, his mistakes are magnified because he usually gets the assignment of guarding one of the other team's better scorers.

tombattor wrote:I agree with R2G in that TA would be received a lot better if he were white. But I don't think it's because fans prefer white players to black players, even though great majority of fans at a Celtics game are white. Whether it's fair or not, there are a lot more black players than white players, so guys like Scal stand out a lot more. And for most non-diehard fans like us on this board, TA might as well be Giddens, Walker or some other bench player, so most fans don't recognize him nor they know that he was coming back from an injury.

TA isn't a perfect player and he's prone to some mistakes, but he can be an asset to this team. I have said this before, but when he gets consistent PT, he usually performs pretty well. And often times, his mistakes are magnified because he usually gets the assignment of guarding one of the other team's better scorers.

I think Scal would be received a lot better if he was built like Tony Allen.

Scalamental wrote:I think Scal would be received a lot better if he was built like Tony Allen.

I disagree. Unless that makes him a better player, he'd be received the same.