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Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:05 pm
by campybatman
I don't particularly agree with this person, the disparaging remarks toward specific Celtic players could be viewed as off-base.

He seems to be speaking more from a standpoint of jealousy and loathing than admiration or respect.

I reckon it all depends on whether or not you're a fan of these Celtic players or not. That can affect your opinion of them as well. He doesn't sound to be a fan of them.

Admittedly, I'm not a Garnett fan and I haven't been a R. Wallace fan since he was with Portland. But Pierce and Ray are two of my favorite players. And I like Rondo and Perkins. Still, I can criticize those I like for things they've done wrong. I can be objective, something few NBA fans are capable of doing for players they like.

No matter, it comes with the territory when you're winning. Fans outside of the home fan base begin to despise you. I wouldn't have it any other way. It means they're (detractors) taking notice...



5. Boston Celtics

There's something unbelievably satisfying about watching a veteran team just take care of business no matter what, even if everyone guns for them.



Here's the problem: Boston is so damn unlikeable. Garnett and Rondo are punks. Perkins has developed some ridiculous fake swagger, the kind that results from riding the coattails of your four all-star caliber teammates. Rasheed Wallace needs no introduction, and Pierce is a chronic whiner that got carried off the floor by his teammates in the 2008 Finals, only to magically come back a few minutes later and be just fine.

I realize the very thing that makes them so great to watch (their intensity) also makes them annoying as hell. I also realize that without that "fire," that "intensity" or whatever, the Celtics become just an ordinary team. But goddammit, do I really have to watch Kevin Garnett bark at Jose Calderon, a guy 10 inches shorter than him, during a blowout?


http://www.sbnation.com/2009/12/14/1199 ... day-season

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:27 pm
by DorfonCeltics
He just brought up a bunch of old stuff. That's so 2008. I think the Celtics team this year is a lot quieter than years past. Not so much hooting and hollering on the sidelines. They just seem to go about their business. I could care less if everyone else doesn't like to watch them. I love watching them whoop up on the rest of the league.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:56 pm
by sully00
Maybe it is because it is my team but I love the way this team acts on the floor, trying to imtimidate opponents and talking trash that is what the NBA is supposed to be about not this smoochfest it has become.

Like McHale said the other day LeBron would have only danced once when he played.

Don't look now but Kendrick Perkins is putting up a lot better numbers than quite few guys cashing 8 figure checks. 12/8/2 and leading the league in FG% and rocking a 96.3 Defensive Rating, Perkins isn't riding anyone's coat tails maybe KG should stay home and let Perk go to DAL.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:40 am
by CeltsfanSinceBirth
:lol: Sounds like a sniveling Raps fan. Anyhow, once they said that Perk developed a "fake swagger", I knew the guy hasn't watched too many Celts games. Perk was scowling like that when he was sitting on the bench in civilian clothes, way back when he was a rookie.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:20 am
by campybatman
Apparently, it's a Washington fan so that would explain his disdain for Boston. I'm surpised of no mention of LeBron's inappropriate dancing.

I think this is just an average fan bitching about teams that aren't his team.



Look, I'm a Wizards fan, so I hate the guy somewhat irrationally. But I don't think it's particularly fun to watch LeBron whine and whine to the officials. Part of it isn't his fault - his face naturally looks Hulk-ish when he scowls - but you'd wish a star like him could display more tact when bitching to the refs. It's also not fun to watch him completely abandon the offense to go one-on-five and shoot a 20-foot jump shot.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:31 am
by Scalamental
Hopefully Perk will at some point jump off his coat tails and fake punch this guy in the face.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:42 am
by SonicYouth34
I never understood how a person can hate another team outright. I hate whoever we're playing, even if I like them, but after the final buzzer its back to normal.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:55 am
by campybatman
It makes sense to dislike players, but not necessarily the franchise. Because, if the player plays elsewhere, your dislike of him follows him. The franchise will remain as it was unless it decides to up and move away. But some NBA fans can dislike a player and a franchise altogether. It makes no difference to them. I can respect that, I don't respect inconsistency. And I don't like when a person who wasn't a fan of a player before suddenly becomes his fan just because he now plays for your team. What's that about? No, you've to stick to your original attitude about a player or franchise, I say. Otherwise, you're a fickle person or a phony. A joke, basically.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:38 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
The "unlikeable" thing is a load of crap. He's be jizzin' in his pants if the exact same players were wearing the jersey of his favorite team...

And LeBitch and Kobe are likeable???

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:31 pm
by campybatman
There are very few young players today that are likable. Very few, in my opinion. I'm getting into Durant, but he's about it for me. I'm more old school...

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:37 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
And Durant is young...he may turn out to be a jerk...remember how likeable LeBiatch was his first couple of seasons? Now almost everyone outside of Cleveland hates his ****' guts! :lol:

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:09 pm
by campybatman
Yeah, but I can honestly say that I never was a fan of LeBron.

Sometimes, it could be the fault of the NBA marketing for over hyping theses young, potential star players to the point where you as a fan want to throw up. Then again, some of these players just dare you to dislike them.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:13 pm
by slamvangundy
Knicks fan here. I love watching the Boston Celtics. You guys may be intense, but you have a team of players who will leave everything out on the floor. Could KG tone it down a little? Sure! But being emotionally out of control is what he does to motivate himself and his team to take it to the next level. And I prefer that to the players just slogging it out for a pay check any day of the week.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:18 pm
by Avalanche
Obviously there is a lot of trash in the main section, but i love this statement
There's something unbelievably satisfying about watching a veteran team just take care of business no matter what, even if everyone guns for them.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:00 am
by Ed Pinkney
I am a big advocate of letting your play and the scoreboard doing the talking and not having to be constantly at the opposition trash talking. So I struggle at times with having Garnett in particular but Pierce as well doing this so much of the time. I imagine if they weren't on my team then I would not like them either.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:28 am
by FeedReed
lol the dude brought up the calderon issue like it happened last week.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:28 am
by loscy
Ed Pinkney wrote:I am a big advocate of letting your play and the scoreboard doing the talking and not having to be constantly at the opposition trash talking. So I struggle at times with having Garnett in particular but Pierce as well doing this so much of the time. I imagine if they weren't on my team then I would not like them either.


I would hate alot of the current Celtics if they were with other franchises. But it would be a healthy i want to beat the crap out of you on the court kind of hate, not the intense i want to see you suffer a career ending injury kind of hate that alot of other teams posters have for KG and Rondo.

As far as the trash talking, i love it. This isnt the local YMCA, this is professional basketball. These are grown men, if you cant deal with KG talking trash to you on the court then you shouldnt be a professional athlete. Alot of the best players to ever play were heavy talkers, they should didnt do it as openly as some of these Celtics.

Above all i LOVE that other teams fanbases hate the Celtics. It really makes me smile. You think in 2007 people hated the Celtics? No because they were irrelevant. Nobody hates the Milwaukee Bucks, or the Charlotte Bobcats, etc. because they dont matter. People hate us because we matter and our team is good. I dont know i just enjoy it.

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:58 am
by campybatman
Basically...



green with envy
wishing very much that you had what someone else has Sharon's going off to the south of France for three weeks and we're all green with envy.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/green+with+envy

Re: Boston according to the NBA "Watchability Scale"

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:01 pm
by irie
I kind of agree with the list, at least the top and bottom.

Kicks are more exciting than given credit for just because of their frantic pace.
Hawks are also more exciting than that because of their athleticism.

Clippers are talented but really boring to watch, honestly.
Bucks are really only rated that high because of Jennings. Otherwise their offense is a struggle.

Rockets should be switched with the Nuggets.