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Oden

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:48 pm
by LongTimeFan
Is Oden fragile or what?

This demonstates how risky a strategy thes top tier draft picks are. This happened to us with Bias. We need first round picks in the 15 to 25 range. That's where DA drafted Jefferson, Rondo and Perk.

Anyways, if we have chips to move and I think we do, that's what I'd go for. House and Daniels are good enough back up PG/SG.

Re: Oden

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:51 pm
by Hemingway
LongTimeFan wrote:Is Oden fragile or what?

This demonstates how risky a strategy thes top tier draft picks are. This happened to us with Bias. We need first round picks in the 15 to 25 range. That's where DA drafted Jefferson, Rondo and Perk.

Anyways, if we have chips to move and I think we do, that's what I'd go for. House and Daniels are good enough back up PG/SG.


Chips to move for what, a draft pick or Oden? I assume a pick. Eh....It seems not worth it to trade for a pick when you can probably buy one from PHX

Re: Oden

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:50 pm
by Zin5
There's a risk in any deal, pick, or signing that a player won't meet expectations. And are you seriously suggesting it's better to have mid-first picks instead of top overall picks?

Re: Oden

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:18 pm
by TonyMontana
Check sig below. Lakers are getting Oden for Sasha. :rofl: One bust for another. :rofl:

Re: Oden

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:46 pm
by chakdaddy
Zin5 wrote: And are you seriously suggesting it's better to have mid-first picks instead of top overall picks?


Not that it makes the idea any less stupid, but lots of football fans seem to think this is the case just for monetary reasons. (In a league with nonguaranteed contracts where you can basically cut guys and erase any mistakes you want, no less.) The Cleveland Browns current regime also seems to prefer trading down and signing cheap veterans rather than drafting good prospects or signing/retaining blue chip talents.

Re: Oden

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:26 am
by Zin5
chakdaddy wrote:
Zin5 wrote: And are you seriously suggesting it's better to have mid-first picks instead of top overall picks?


Not that it makes the idea any less stupid, but lots of football fans seem to think this is the case just for monetary reasons. (In a league with nonguaranteed contracts where you can basically cut guys and erase any mistakes you want, no less.) The Cleveland Browns current regime also seems to prefer trading down and signing cheap veterans rather than drafting good prospects or signing/retaining blue chip talents.

It's way too different from football to basketball. Basketball has its rookie scale, so even top picks are only guaranteed something like $10M, when football players are guaranteed upwards of like $40M now. Football has solid and even great contributing players in later rounds. Elite talent in the NBA drafts is typically taken in the first several picks. The draft's just not as deep. It also takes more than one great player in the NFL, but you need one or two great players in the NBA on a team, so you can put more resources into your elite talent than you can in the NFL.

Re: Oden

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:45 pm
by LongTimeFan
No, what I'm suggesting is for short value (a mid first) DA can get a quality NBA starter. My recollection is DA basically turned Jiri Welsh and some cash into Rondo. That's a lot of talent value added to the team.

For example, before the draft DA said the Celtic board was way different than everyone elses. I think he had Rondo at fifth best player. I don't know where he had Jeffersen, but it was early in DA's career anyways.

In DA's hands three mid first are worth way more than a single top five.