T-Mac?? Yeah or Nah?

bendyone · Post #1 » by **bendyone** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:56 am

So...TMAC has left the Rockets, not likely to play again this season for them....disoute over playing time since his return from along long injury break.

I'd imagine the rockets would like to;

1.Trade now for a couple of productive back ups
2. hold on for a salary dump next season.

Do we want him now? Or in the future?

Could we get him as a back up to PP?

I say no...but always like to read the thoughts of othe realgm posters.

Captain_Caveman · Post #2 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:01 am

Only plausible deal now is for Ray Allen. I say no.

In the future, only plausible arrangement is still in place of Ray, and I still say no.

captain green · Post #3 » by **captain green** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:11 am

nope to right now he has goat eyes, and he is 30, and a recent knee surgery and his own team won't play him more than 7 minutes a game which is dumb on there part, but to expensive is my main gripe i'd say sign him for a fle if he takes it, after his contract goes down i'd consider him. he has allready said he want less money and a chance for a ring...

GoGoCeltics · Post #4 » by **GoGoCeltics** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:51 am

Best thing for the Rockets to do would be hold onto it and dump him next year.

SonicYouth34 · Post #5 » by **SonicYouth34** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:52 am

No because we'd have to trade Ray. But if he's bought out and cool with a bench role, then I'm all for him on our awesome bench.

bendyone · Post #6 » by **bendyone** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:59 am

What are goats eyes?

campybatman · Post #7 » by **campybatman** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:33 am

Why does this story sound familiar?

Disgruntled Memphis guard Allen Iverson returned to his home in Atlanta after receiving permission to leave the team to attend to personal business.

Iverson also acknowledged that he had become a distraction.

"When I hear anything about the Memphis Grizzlies, I don't hear you guys talk about anything other than the situation with me coming off the bench," he said Friday. "I mean, there's got to be something else with this team to talk about besides that. But I guess that sells a lot better than anything else when it comes to this team."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4633226

In a strange twist to a story that has had its share of weird plot turns, the Rockets said McGrady received the team's permission to fly back to Houston, in part so that be could be home for his the birthday of his young son, Laymen.

But there clearly was an impasse between McGrady and Adelman about what the next step should be in McGrady's comeback from microfracture knee surgery, and the Rockets said the situation would be readdressed Monday after the team returns home from a back-to-back set against New Jersey and Cleveland.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4772672

Bruiser · Post #8 » by **Bruiser** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:36 am

Nate? T-Mac? Who's next, Eddy Curry?

Bill Lumbergh · Post #9 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:41 am

My guess is if they can't trade him by the deadline, they'll then buy him out and save themselves a couple of million, and some contender will pick him up on the cheap.

Zin5 · Post #10 » by **Zin5** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:10 am

Rockets will let him expire if they can't find a trade. They don't want to let him go to a competitor (they're in the playoff hunt, it's not like the Clippers letting Cassell go) and most of his contract is covered by insurance anyways. We have nothing to move for him. No way do we give up Ray. He's not an option.

campybatman · Post #11 » by **campybatman** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:32 am

If New York didn't insist on including Jeffries, McGrady would've been with New York by now.

I wonder could Orlando attempt to acquire him, or simply wait until the off-season.

6and33areGOD · Post #12 » by **6and33areGOD** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:31 pm

In the off chance that the Rockets buy him out, i think we should be all over signing him. It would probably entail cutting Giddens, but IMO the possible reward of this move would far outweigh the risk. Remember this was a guy that as recently as 3 or so years ago was a better player than Ray or Paul. If he really is 'hungry' like he says, and can even get back to 60-70% of his old self, then a Pierce/Ray/Tracy wingman rotation would be absolutely lethal.

And for nostalgia's sake, imagine if anyone told you 4 or 5 years ago that there's even a slightly realistic possibility of McGrady, Pierce, Allen, and Garnett all being on the same team? Funny how things can change in the course of a few years.

Bill Lumbergh · Post #13 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:04 pm

Zin5 wrote:Rockets will let him expire if they can't find a trade. They don't want to let him go to a competitor (they're in the playoff hunt, it's not like the Clippers letting Cassell go) and most of his contract is covered by insurance anyways. We have nothing to move for him. No way do we give up Ray. He's not an option.

As long as he's healthy and playing, or able to play (like he is now), insurance is not covering his salary.

As to whether they'd reach a buyout with him or not, who knows? It likely wouldn't happen until after the trade deadline anyway, and if they could save themselves a couple/few million to do so, I'd not be surprised if they did, fighting to get into playoffs or not.

As for tmac and the Celts, no way I'd trade Ray as part of a package for him, which would be necessary to get him. No way, no how. I don't know that Danny would bring him on board even if he could pick him up dirt cheap after a potential buyout. If DA decides to bolster the backup SF role, we've got the expirings to get it done.

TA42 · Post #14 » by **TA42** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:30 pm

Would the Rockets keep him on their bench all year and not utilize him? Would keep him from possibly going to another playoff team.

If he's bought out I wouldn't be against the idea of bringing him in for the second unit:

PG - Eddie House
SG - Marquis Daniels
SF - Tracy McGrady
PF - Big Baby
C - Rasheed Wallace

Not too shabby.

But I could also see Orlando making a run at him. If he's back to being close to his former self he could jump into the starting lineup instead of Pietrus. Plus, he'd have a reunion with his cousin.

How about Cleveland? Maybe push Parker to the bench? a LeBron / McGrady / O'neal trio could be formidable.

exculpatory · Post #15 » by **exculpatory** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:07 pm

6and33areGOD wrote:In the off chance that the Rockets buy him out, i think we should be all over signing him. It would probably entail cutting Giddens, but IMO the possible reward of this move would far outweigh the risk. Remember this was a guy that as recently as 3 or so years ago was a better player than Ray or Paul. If he really is 'hungry' like he says, and can even get back to 60-70% of his old self, then a Pierce/Ray/Tracy wingman rotation would be absolutely lethal.

1) As a complete player and regarding durability, he NEVER was better than the Truth.
2) However, that said, there is NO DOUBT that he once was ELITE as hell.
3) That said, IF his injury/surgery has not detracted from his skillset, if there is any way in hell to get him here to back up the Truth at the 3, and a Ray Ray starting to decline at the 2, I DO IT IN A MINIMICRONANOSECOND.

BTW - I forgive RR his FT chokes last night because overall he was the best player on the court last night. However, HE MUST FIX THIS, AND FIX IT SOON. HE HAS TO MAKE 75% or more of HIS FTs overall, and even more of them at crunch time after he performs his otherworldly, wondrous penetrations into the paint, and gets fouled. I swear to God - if Rondo could add 75% FT shooting and a reasonably CONSISTENT 15' J to his skillset, he would be the equal of CP3 and DWill as the most elite PGs in the league.

And ---------------- I will say it again. RAY ALLEN SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE BALL DURING CLUTCH TIME EXCEPT WHEN RR OR PP SETS HIM UP TO SHOOT THE DAGGER. Last night, for about the tenth time this season, he drove into the paint during clutch time and simply LOST THE FRIGGING BALL.

GuyClinch · Post #16 » by **GuyClinch** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:08 pm

That sounds good on paper but word is McGrady is "stick a fork in him" done. So likely TA > McGrady.. I realize its almost impossible to type that but we are talking about a sport that requires athletic movement and McGrady is coming off a bad microfracture surgery which will likely end his career.

exculpatory · Post #17 » by **exculpatory** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:13 pm

GuyClinch wrote:That sounds good on paper but word is McGrady is "stick a fork in him" done. So likely TA > McGrady.. I realize its almost impossible to type that but we are talking about a sport that requires athletic movement and McGrady is coming off a bad microfracture surgery which will likely end his career.

Pete, really? DAMN! If that is the case, I retract my post just before yours.

bc legends · Post #18 » by **bc legends** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:45 pm

exculpatory wrote:And ---------------- I will say it again. RAY ALLEN SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE BALL DURING CLUTCH TIME EXCEPT WHEN RR OR PP SETS HIM UP TO SHOOT THE DAGGER. Last night, for about the tenth time this season, he drove into the paint during clutch time and simply LOST THE FRIGGING BALL.

Right, because we should define a player based on a handful of games this season as opposed to what he's been doing throughout his whole career. Ray Allen remains one of the most clutch players in the NBA regardless of what you think, whether its him shooting that three or driving to the hoop.

In regards to the OP, I just don't see him coming to Boston before the trade deadline. We'd most likely have to give up Ray and I just don't see that happening. If his contract was to get bought out, I could see him going to Orlando or Los Angeles. I do believe Ainge should atleast inquire about him, nobody really knows how much McGrady has left except himself and he could quite easily become that x factor for any title contender come post-season.

Celts17Pride · Post #19 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:14 pm

Celtics have no chance with McGrady. The only way to get him would be a trade involving Ray Allen which makes no sense. If McGrady gets bought out which might happen because it would save the Rockets on the luxury tax then he will immediately sign with cousin Vince in Orlando.

McGrady and Carter would make the Magic the most overrated team of all-time.

TonyMontana · Post #20 » by **TonyMontana** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:19 pm

bendyone wrote:So...TMAC has left the Rockets, not likely to play again this season for them.

You know I look all over the internet but I couldnt find one source that said Tmac has left the Rockets. Do you have a link? I thought he was just pissed off about his P.T. but I havent heard anything about him being gone or is leaving.