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I feel like the Celtics are becoming more and more like the Pistons after they won the championship.

We play to the level of the competition
We bring it on 1 or 2 quarters per game

I can't blame it on Sheed, but I always thought he is a lazy player and if he would play harder he could be top 5 players in the NBA.

I am not sure if it is even them depending so much on each other (I am not sure how to better phrase this).

I just hope that the mentality isn't that we will win as many games during the season and turn it on in the Playoffs. That is risky.

Hey, another "sky is falling thread." What a surprise. This team will right the ship. They know what needs to be done. And do people disrespect the rest of the NBA where we can lose our top scorer and captain and not cruise to victories?

We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

Jordan was right when he told Ray that repeating is the hard part.

aboubata wrote:We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

Jordan was right when he told Ray that repeating is the hard part.

What exactly does that mean? When the playoffs start, the Celtics will have the same chance at winning as any other team. Why do people just make up percentages as if they mean something? Winning a championship is the hard part, it doesn't matter if it is the first, second, third or eighteenth. Here is a % for you. The Celtics have won 34% of ALL NBA titles since 1949. Hopefully that will cheer you up.

aboubata wrote:We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

Jordan was right when he told Ray that repeating is the hard part.

I think your IQ dropped 20% for writing that.

Celtics will be fine. Right now they are struggling a little with depth while Pierce and Daniels are both out. Rondo and Ray playing a little too much but the alternatives won't be better (Giddens, Walker, Hudson). Once Pierce gets back they will go on another 8-10 game win streak and all will be well.

Celtics still have a few holes like all teams do but nothing that would prevent them from winning another title. I think they could use a good backup PG and an athletic backup SF but it's not mandatory. We will see what Danny Ainge does at the trade deadline.

Even if the Celtics do nothing at the deadline the Celtics still have as good a chance as anybody of winning the title.

Hemingway wrote:

aboubata wrote:We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

Jordan was right when he told Ray that repeating is the hard part.

I think your IQ dropped 20% for writing that.

I know I just dropped 40% reading it..........

ps....and that's just not right......

Why do people do this? Ok let's sort it out then....

aboubata wrote:We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

Who said? When was Kg out??? He sat one game that we won. what are you talking about?

aboubata wrote:We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Who cares/so what/this matters because?? What is your point???

aboubata wrote:Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

This is the one that pinches my tits. It's DECEMBER. You do realize the playoffs are in APRIL, MAY and JUNE???? This statement makes zero sense. Please explain how championships are lost in December, I'd love to hear your theory on this. Really, I want the formula and the logic supporting it.


I'm going to come out and say it. Some of you need to take a course on coping and putting things in perpective. If you're going to spew the doom and gloom, at least have a coherent point to make. How come nobody has the balls to make these comments when we win 14 of 15 and KG is shooting 75 percent from the field and winning player of the week? A couple minor injuries resulting in a couple losses.....here, I'll say it.... SO WHAT! We may lose a THIRD straight tonight, and I'll say the same thing if we do. So what.

Losing is part of the NBA season. For every team, every year. Why is this a revelation to ANYONE?

The best teams in the league every year will actually lose somewhere between 14 and 22 games, maybe even more. Imagine that! Every NBA champion in the history of the league, without fail, has lost to lesser teams during the regular season. Imagine that!! I guess nobody told them they were no longer contenders after those losses.

Thank god the Celtics don't roll over and die as easily as some of their fans do. All I ask is that you come back and re-post this thread after our next 10 game winning streak.

canman1971 wrote:Hey, another "sky is falling thread." What a surprise. This team will right the ship. They know what needs to be done. And do people disrespect the rest of the NBA where we can lose our top scorer and captain and not cruise to victories?

I wouldnt call this a "sky if falling thread" because I dont necessarily think this means that the "sky is falling". IMO it is pretty clear that we play down to competition, we look lazy on plays againt the Clippers or Timberwolves and we dont when we play the Cavs or Magic. I just think this team is board of the regular season, THEY HAVE SHOWN THEY CAN WIN ON THE ROAD and just want the playoffs to get here.

I am just glad that DA agrees with me

“I think it’s a combination of we’re getting some pretty good performances by other teams and we’re not playing as hard as we can play for 48 minutes,’’ he said. “We think we can show up for a quarter or a half, and that’s not good enough in this league, and that’s been our pattern. We come out of the gates ready to play and have shown up to play in some cases. Other cases we haven’t; we’ve had to turn it on in the second half.

“That’s the fear I had at the beginning of the season - play it out and wait for the playoffs to roll around and not bringing it night in and night out. This is the second stretch where we really haven’t really shown up. The urgency of winning from the get-go hasn’t been important enough.’

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... _headache/

When you guys watch this team come out in a deciding game and just turn it on in the second half to fall short, then you will know what you mean.

I've been watching the Cs since 1999/2000 and there are a few things I was positive about
1. Walker - Pierce combo (with w.e. team was around them) won't win much.
2. Blount signing was the biggest mistake
3. If the Cs don't change this bad habit by the ASB then they won't win a championship and I would put money on it.

DunkOnFace wrote:Why do people do this? Ok let's sort it out then....

aboubata wrote:We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

Who said? When was Kg out??? He sat one game that we won. what are you talking about?

aboubata wrote:We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Who cares/so what/this matters because?? What is your point???

aboubata wrote:Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

This is the one that pinches my tits. It's DECEMBER. You do realize the playoffs are in APRIL, MAY and JUNE???? This statement makes zero sense. Please explain how championships are lost in December, I'd love to hear your theory on this. Really, I want the formula and the logic supporting it.


I'm going to come out and say it. Some of you need to take a course on coping and putting things in perpective. If you're going to spew the doom and gloom, at least have a coherent point to make. How come nobody has the balls to make these comments when we win 14 of 15 and KG is shooting 75 percent from the field and winning player of the week? A couple minor injuries resulting in a couple losses.....here, I'll say it.... SO WHAT! We may lose a THIRD straight tonight, and I'll say the same thing if we do. So what.

Losing is part of the NBA season. For every team, every year. Why is this a revelation to ANYONE?

The best teams in the league every year will actually lose somewhere between 14 and 22 games, maybe even more. Imagine that! Every NBA champion in the history of the league, without fail, has lost to lesser teams during the regular season. Imagine that!! I guess nobody told them they were no longer contenders after those losses.

Thank god the Celtics don't roll over and die as easily as some of their fans do. All I ask is that you come back and re-post this thread after our next 10 game winning streak.

KG was out during the Indiana game when they had to make another second half come back.

1. you could lose b/c you have a bad team (I didn't mind the 24 win season)
2. you could lose b/c you have a bad night (and we did win a lot of these during the championship season)
3. you could lose b/c your players aren't interested and we seem to have that night in and night out.

Saying that these guys are being lazy isn't rolling over and I will repost this when we are eliminated (IF THINGS DON'T CHANGE)

Kefa461 wrote:
I know I just dropped 40% reading it..........

ps....and that's just not right......

Thats cold Kefa.............

The irony in your opinion is that the Celtics fell flat on their face trying to win a title in December last year. They were cooked by the playoffs. Shouldn't their intensity have guaranteed them more success? Oh course, they didn't have KG. Why does that remind me of the last couple games? I dunno. It's not like we're missing our best player or something.

I hope KG sits out tonight, I know it's probably not going to happen but I'd rather he did. Same for Rondo if the hamstring is bothering him. But let me get this straight. You want these guys to play harder, you expect them to play well when they're hurt, you're concerned with their intensity, but you DON'T care about them winning during the regular season.....and if they don't crank up the intensity soon, there's no way they'll be ready for the playoffs? Also, you don't want to pin the laziness button Rasheed, even though he's the only guy on the team it applies to. Ok then. If you wonder why I'm not following your rationale, it's because you're all over the place.

But you're not rolling over on the team though. You said their chances of winning a title this year have instantly decreased by 20% (you still didn't explain this), but no, you're standing strong. What's going to happen when they lose another 15 games? Are you going to tell us they have a -300% chance of winning then? lol.

TonyMontana wrote:

Kefa461 wrote:
I know I just dropped 40% reading it..........

ps....and that's just not right......

Thats cold Kefa.............

aboubata knows I didn't have much to begin with so the jokes on me....but I digress......

To say that the C's won't win this season isn't a leap because the chances a team wins is long no matter who the team is.....the odds due to health etc is always long..so it's not a leap to say that.

I still say because of a 2 game losing streak is no cause for a "jump off the bridge" post.

Here's something to keep in mind:

The 1986 Celtics, perhaps the greatest team of all time, lost the overwhelming majority of their regular season games to sub .500 teams.

We're not as good, or loaded as the 86 squad but so far I don't see us as the 2005 Pistons but rather closer to the '87 Celtics (still not as good... ). Old, sometimes injured but still capable of whooping some serious ass and a definite contender.

Kefa461 wrote:

TonyMontana wrote:

Kefa461 wrote:
I know I just dropped 40% reading it..........

ps....and that's just not right......

Thats cold Kefa.............

aboubata knows I didn't have much to begin with so the jokes on me....but I digress......

To say that the C's won't win this season isn't a leap because the chances a team wins is long no matter who the team is.....the odds due to health etc is always long..so it's not a leap to say that.

I still say because of a 2 game losing streak is no cause for a "jump off the bridge" post.

Well see thats the difference between a REAL fan and JUST A FAN.
A REAL fan like me and you have seen the best and the worst of our teams through out all these years and we have stuck with them no matter what the good and the bad was.

Now a FAN like some people on realgm, they ride the wagon until the wagon starts having hickups and when that happens you see them jumping ship like Benedict Arnold.

TonyMontana wrote:

Kefa461 wrote:

TonyMontana wrote:Thats cold Kefa.............

aboubata knows I didn't have much to begin with so the jokes on me....but I digress......

To say that the C's won't win this season isn't a leap because the chances a team wins is long no matter who the team is.....the odds due to health etc is always long..so it's not a leap to say that.

I still say because of a 2 game losing streak is no cause for a "jump off the bridge" post.

Well see thats the difference between a REAL fan and JUST A FAN.
A REAL fan like me and you have seen the best and the worst of our teams through out all these years and we have stuck with them no matter what the good and the bad was.

Now a FAN like some people on realgm, they ride the wagon until the wagon starts having hickups and when that happens you see them jumping ship like Benedict Arnold.

A real fan does realize when their team has a problem, JUST A FAN is the guy who just make excuses.

My post had nothing to do with 2 games losing streak but more like 30 games sample.

I haven't given up on this team and never would, like I said I enjoyed watching the 24 win season, but when asked if they will win it all my answer has changed
from "yes, they could matchup with any team in the NBA"
to "only if they soon start putting the effort"

aboubata wrote:
A real fan does realize when their team has a problem, JUST A FAN is the guy who just make excuses.

My post had nothing to do with 2 games losing streak but more like 30 games sample.

I haven't given up on this team and never would, like I said I enjoyed watching the 24 win season, but when asked if they will win it all my answer has changed
from "yes, they could matchup with any team in the NBA"
to "only if they soon start putting the effort"

Sure your team has a problem and so does mine, its called injuries and believe it or not its a common problem when it comes to any sport. Thats why other players need to step up in the absences of the injured players, and you will lose a few games (even to scrubs like the Clippers or the Cavs ) but does that justify me as a fan to write off my favorite team because of a few injuries or a few bad games........... NOPE.

Also your running way to far ahead of yourself if your sitting here and judging your teams performance and the injuries to determine whether or not your team is going to make it to the finals or win the finals. Slow down a bit and enjoy your team success and faliures thats the whole part of being a fan is all about. At least you should be greatfull that your team isnt a lotto team or a sub 500.

Imagine being a Bulls fan or a Suns fan, some of these fans havent even seen a title in years and some simply dont have what it takes. You as a Cs fan and me as a Laker fan are blessed to have watched our teams success through out these few years and I think some fans are spoiled, even me. I hate watching my team play sub 500 teams cause I think its boring and all I want to watch are the game we play against the elite teams, but I actually find those sub 500 games are actually great games and they are very fun to watch.

Relax a bit brah and enjoy these games and hope for the best, its not even mid season yet.

I definitely agree that this is another "OMG, the Celtics lost 2, now 3 in a row....there must be something wrong" thread.

Everything is cool man, we should have won in LA against the clippers (Rajon's fault for missing free throws, not his fault for Baron hitting a shot) and we should have beaten Golden State (came out strong and ran out of gas) but lost on a back to back night in the west. Last night against phoenix without two of your stars is a no brainer.

West coast trips are hard man, no one wrote anything about the sky is falling when we beat Orlando. We match up better against teams like Orlando then we do against a team like Golden State and Phoenix (speed is the Celtics achilles heel).

If i recall correctly, we haven't won in Golden State in a few years, even in 2008 when the celtics won it all.

canman1971 wrote:

aboubata wrote:We said our efforts wasn't there when KG was out b/c he is our vocal leader.

We win in Orlando without our captain and top scorer.

Yet we come out and play like crap for 6 out of 8 quarters in the next 2 games.

Sorry, but our chances of winning a championship drops about 20%.

Jordan was right when he told Ray that repeating is the hard part.

What exactly does that mean? When the playoffs start, the Celtics will have the same chance at winning as any other team. Why do people just make up percentages as if they mean something? Winning a championship is the hard part, it doesn't matter if it is the first, second, third or eighteenth. Here is a % for you. The Celtics have won 34% of ALL NBA titles since 1949. Hopefully that will cheer you up.

So, 6.25% chance?

FWIW, Hollinger has the Celts at 8.3%