Battle of the New York Teams

mets87 · Post #61 » by **mets87** » Wed May 30, 2007 1:55 am

hey buddy, posada's a .273 career hitter. he won't keep this up. the yankees are terrible this year, just be quiet.

jeff1624 · Post #62 » by **jeff1624** » Mon Jun 4, 2007 6:04 am

Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pudge? Yeah. But also Piazza and Mauer.

So I guess 1 year eclipses the last 10 huh???

34Celtic · Post #63 » by **34Celtic** » Mon Jun 4, 2007 1:09 pm

jeff1624 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So I guess 1 year eclipses the last 10 huh???

I guess in Minnesota...

bringinhinkie · Post #64 » by **bringinhinkie** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:17 am

34Celtic wrote:I said over the last ten years BBallJesus, for that period of time. As an all around player by the way. Piazza hasn't been an above average catcher for some time now.

you said within the last 10 years.. 10 years ago piazza hit 362 with 40hrs and 124rbis.. followed by 328 with 32hrs ... followed by 303 40hrs .. followed by 324 38 hrs .. followed by 300 36 hrs .. 280 33hrs , thats just 6 years ago. since then hes still averaged 280 20hrs give or take. not to mention playing in LA and Shea, pitchers parks that cost him at least a couple hrs a year. btw, dont use all around player, posada couldnt block a beachball. yea his arm was better than piazza's, but piazza was far superior at blocking balls and fielding in general. btw, posadas hit above only 280 in his career twice (3x assuming he will this season), you are vastly overrating him.

randomhero423 · Post #65 » by **randomhero423** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:18 pm

C- Lo Duca or Posada -- Duca. posada is always overrated by NYY fans (havin a good yr this year though)
1B- Delgado or Giambi - delgado. although i'm not a big fan of his..
2B- Cano or Valentin - cano. not close.
SS- Reyes or Jeter - reyes. he can do it all.
3B- Wright or A-Rod - arod. not close.
LF- Alou or Matsui - matsui. alou's always injuried.
CF- Beltran or Damon - beltran. not close
RF- Green or Abreu - green. abreu's stats look nice. but he's a guy i wouldn't want on my team.
Starting Pitching - NYY.
Bullpen -NYM

dead even.

jeff1624 · Post #66 » by **jeff1624** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:48 pm

randomhero423 wrote:C- Lo Duca or Posada -- Duca. posada is always overrated by NYY fans (havin a good yr this year though)
1B- Delgado or Giambi - delgado. although i'm not a big fan of his..
2B- Cano or Valentin - cano. not close.
SS- Reyes or Jeter - reyes. he can do it all.
3B- Wright or A-Rod - arod. not close.
LF- Alou or Matsui - matsui. alou's always injuried.
CF- Beltran or Damon - beltran. not close
RF- Green or Abreu - green. abreu's stats look nice. but he's a guy i wouldn't want on my team.
Starting Pitching - NYY.
Bullpen -NYM

dead even.

Nobody would choose lo duca ahead of posada....

You say reyes I say jeter that should be equal IMO. And on abreus worst year he's still better than green.

34Celtic · Post #67 » by **34Celtic** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:06 pm

randomhero423 wrote:C- Lo Duca or Posada -- Duca. posada is always overrated by NYY fans (havin a good yr this year though)

Dude you're crazy. Posada has come up so big over his time in NY and was the catcher on World Series teams. Does that make him overrated?

randomhero423 · Post #68 » by **randomhero423** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:20 pm

posada is defintely a good catcher don't get me wrong. but he's not "great" like a million NYY think. he's never had 1 season of having a.300 season.

and how is he "so big" in the playoffs if his career BA in the post season is .241?!

only 3 series' he's had over .300 in the playoffs. the guy bats .208 in the world series for his career also.

he's defintely overrated. he's solid/good but he's not amazing or great.

although lo duca as been slacking DEF he's a great contact hitter. i wish willie would put him in the 2 hole more often (where he was last year). i'd take lo duca's bat over posada's anyday. (posada's havin a good year this yr. but it wont last). posada's good def while lo duca's only ok.

duca had 3 years of batting over .300 btw. duca made his 1st apperance in the playoffs last year. batted .455 vs the dodgers but only somewhere around 200 vs the cards.

duca and posada both have only 2 years in which they've had 10+ errors.

for me. abreu's just to soft to want on my team. green's hitting. w/ that pick it's more of me not liking abreu then my like for green. honestly.

bigboy1234 · Post #69 » by **bigboy1234** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:38 pm

I'm staying out of this, but Posada's bat is easily better than Lo Duca's. Lo Duca hasn't had a higher EQA than Posada since 2001. Ever since then people have overrated Lo Duca's bat.

34Celtic · Post #70 » by **34Celtic** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:50 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:I'm staying out of this, but Posada's bat is easily better than Lo Duca's. Lo Duca hasn't had a higher EQA than Posada since 2001. Ever since then people have overrated Lo Duca's bat.

I don't know what EQA means, but Posada is better, want some more kool-aid Mets? By the way anyone remember Loduca hitting .207 in the NLCS last year?

Post #71 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:51 am

Some of the posts in this thread are just hilarious, starting with Wright over ARod, Posada being garbage (4-time all-star and almost an MVP in 2003), Cano's glove being garbage due to one game, etc. I don't think ARod would allow Wright to even shine his shoes this season.

YungNeef · Post #72 » by **YungNeef** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:19 am

I would take Wright over ARod as my 3rd baseman because in my eyes ARod will always be a SS.

mets87 · Post #73 » by **mets87** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:34 am

lol, all star appearances are the LAST thing you should be using to make your case for a player. you do realize it's a popularity contest, right?

jeff1624 · Post #74 » by **jeff1624** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:51 am

YungNeef wrote:I would take Wright over ARod as my 3rd baseman because in my eyes ARod will always be a SS.

So if you had a chance to have david ortiz at first or ty wigginton you'd choose wigginton because Ortiz will always be a DH in your opinion??

Post #75 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:53 am

mets87 wrote:lol, all star appearances are the LAST thing you should be using to make your case for a player. you do realize it's a popularity contest, right?

Jorge Posada doesn't make all-star games on popularity, he was the 1st or 2nd best C in the AL for years.

Post #76 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:57 am

YungNeef wrote:I would take Wright over ARod as my 3rd baseman because in my eyes ARod will always be a SS.

I'm sorry but that's a terrible justification, ARod is a 3B for the Yankees, and the discussion is whether or not people would prefer the Mets' 3B or the Yankees 3B.

And if you truly believe that, then change ur SS from Reyes to ARod, unless you are now going to come up with some ridiculous fact that speed means more than ARod's 24 homers and 63 RBI through 61 games.

Matsui played CF in Japan for years, so I think I'm going to consider him a CF and take him over Beltran. And Mo came up as a SP, so he is the best starter between both teams, right?

bigboy1234 · Post #77 » by **bigboy1234** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:50 am

You would take Matsui over Beltran.

Just messing with you, I get what you mean.

Post #78 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:57 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:You would take Matsui over Beltran.
Just messing with you, I get what you mean.

Sarcasm

randomhero423 · Post #79 » by **randomhero423** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:49 pm

i didn't say posada was garbage. i just think he's overrated. he's very solid but he's not a HOF/great player like some NYY fans make him sound like.

34Celtic · Post #80 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:53 pm

YungNeef wrote:I would take Wright over ARod as my 3rd baseman because in my eyes ARod will always be a SS.

So will you always view Craig Biggio as a catcher? Posada came up as a shortstop....lol