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Dave Winfield v Sammy Sosa

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:33 pm
by OSBB
Leave steroid speculation out of this, who was the better player?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:08 pm
by bigboy1234
I would probably go with Sammy. The reason I pick Sammy is because his peak is a good amount higher than Winfield's in my opinion. Winfield did what he did over a longer amount of time, but I don't think he was as great as Sammy.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:43 pm
by OSBB
LMAO.

I found each player's top eight seasons in terms of BRAA, added them together and then added that number to their career total BRAA. Then I did the same with FRAA and combined both numbers together so Sosa would get some help because of his strong peak.

Sosa: 808 RAR
Winfield: 807 RAR

So I guess Sosa should be a HOF?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:53 pm
by bigboy1234
Sosa's top 8 WARP3 Seasons
14.1
9.9
9.2
8.9
8.8
6.7
6.5
6.4

Total- 106.0

Winfield's top 8 WARP3 Seasons
11.5
9.6
8.4
8.2
7.7
7.6
7.6
7.0

Total- 131.3

Also, keep in mind that Winfield has played in over 650 more games than Sosa. And Sammy's 5 best season's were all in a row, which is more impressive to me. If you'd want a player over the long haul, take Winfield, but I'll take the guy with the higher peak, although it is pretty damn close and it could go either way.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:41 pm
by Basketball Jesus
To get all 34Celtic for a minute, Winfield was considered the superior defensive player (along with having one of the all-time greatest OF arms. You could also make a reasonable case that Winfield was a better overall offensive player although he never had a peak like Sosa

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:49 pm
by 34Celtic
Basketball Jesus wrote:To get all 34Celtic for a minute, Winfield was considered the superior defensive player (along with having one of the all-time greatest OF arms. You could also make a reasonable case that Winfield was a better overall offensive player although he never had a peak like Sosa