RealGM Top 100 Voting Thread (#38 spot)

[Baller 24]

Rankings So Far:
1. Babe Ruth
2. Barry Bonds
3. Willie Mays
4. Ted Williams
5. Hank Aaron
6. Ty Cobb
7. Mickey Mantle
8. Honus Wagner
9. Walter Johnson
10. Lou Gehrig (Vote Off Winner)
11. Stan Musial (Vote Off Runner-Up)
12. Cy Young
13. Joe Dimaggio
14. Roger Clemens
15. Rogers Hornsby
16. Alex Rodriguez
17. Tris Speaker
18. Sandy Koufax
19. Lefty Grove
20. Satchel Paige
21. Mike Schmidt
22. Pete Rose
23. Nolan Ryan
24. Frank Robinson
25. Ken Griffey Jr.
26. Joe Morgan
27. Josh Gibson
28. Pedro Martinez
29. Warren Spahn
30. Greg Maddux
31. Roberto Clemente
32. Jimmie Foxx
33. Ernie Banks
34. Rickey Henderson
35. Randy Johnson
36.Christy Mathewson
37. Sammy Sosa

Here we go Tony Gywnn newest member

Shoeless Joe Jackson

Notable Achievements

* 3rd Highest Career Batting Average
* Hit .408 in 1911
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Harmon Killebrew

Notable Achievements
* 11 All-Star appearances
* AL MVP (1969)
* Led AL in home runs 6 times
* Hit 40 home runs in a season 8 times
* 9th player to hit 500 career home runs


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Tony Gywnn

Notable Achievements
* MLB All-Star (15)
1984-87, 1989-1999, 2001 (DNP 2001)
* National League Gold Glove Award (5)
1986-87, 1989-1991
* National League Silver Slugger Award (7)
1984, 1986-87, 1989, 1994-95, 1997
* National League Batting Title (8)
1984, 1987-89, 1994-97
* Led the League in Basehits:
1984, 1986-87, 1989, 1994-95, 1997
* Led the League in Runs Scored: 1986 (107)
* Career Batting Average: .338


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Mariano Rivera

Notable Achievements
* Four-time AL winner Rolaids Relief Man of the Year (1999, 2001, 2004, 2005)
* 1999 World Series MVP Award
* 2003 ALCS MVP
* Holds MLB record for lowest postseason ERA of all-time (0.80) (as of 2006 season) [35]
* Holds MLB record for most postseason saves of all-time (34) [36]
* Holds MLB record for lowest career ERA of closers among top 50 list for career saves (2.29) (as of 2006 season) [37]
* Holds MLB record for pitching 34 consecutive scoreless innings in postseason[16]
* Holds MLB record for converting 23 consecutive postseason saves [15]
* Second-best save conversion percentage of closers with at least 150 saves (89.8%) (1999-2006) [38]
* One of 2 pitchers to record 40 saves in 6 different seasons [39]
* 4th all-time in career saves (421), 2nd all-time among active pitchers (as of June 12, 2007)
* One of 5 pitchers to record 300 saves with one team, and the second to record 400 with one team [40]
* One of 8 pitchers to record at least 50 saves in a season [41]
* One of 2 pitchers to record at least 50 saves in two separate seasons [41]
* Holds MLB record for 12 two-inning postseason saves, twice as many as the next player on the list.[17]
* Holds MLB record for most World Series saves (9) [42]
* Holds MLB record for lowest ERA in Division Series (0.42) [43]
* Has 3rd most seasons with at least 30 saves (9)[43]
* Has 2nd most consecutive seasons with at least 25 saves (10)[43]
* Only reliever to win ALCS MVP (2003) and World Series MVP (1999) awards
* Holds MLB record for most seasons with 20-plus saves and sub-2.00 ERA (7) [44]
* 8-time All-Star (1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006) [45]
* 4-time World Series champion (1996, 1998, 1999, 2000)
* Holds Yankee record for single season strikeouts by a reliever (130)
* Holds MLB record for most appearances in postseason history (73) [36]
* Yankees' all-time leader in WHIP (1.04), saves (421), and appearances (745) (as of June 12, 2007)
* Named the relief pitcher on Major League Baseball's Latino Legends Team
* Finished 3rd in voting for American League Cy Young Award in 1996[46], 1999[47], 2004[48]; finished 2nd in 2005.[49]
* One of 2 pitchers since 1997 to finish in top 10 in voting for American League Most Valuable Player Award (2004[50], 2005 - 9th place[51])
* One of 2 pitchers to save 3 All-Star Games (1997, 2005, 2006) [52]
* Only pitcher to close out 3 World Series


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George Brett

Career Highlights
* American League MVP: 1980
* American League Championship Series MVP: 1985
* Lou Gehrig Memorial Award: 1986
* American League Batting Champion: 1976, 1980, 1990
* All-Star: 1976-1988
* Baseball Hall of Fame: 1999




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Derek Jeter

Notable Achievements
* 1993 South Atlantic League All-Star (SS)
* 1994 Florida State League All-Star (SS)
* 1994 Baseball America 1st Team Minor League All-Star (SS)
* 1994 Minor League Player of the Year
* 1994 NY Yankees Minor League Player of the Year
* 1994 Baseball America Minor League Player of the Year
* 1994 Florida State League Most Valuable Player
* 1995 International League All-Star (SS)
* 1996 AL Rookie of the Year
* 1998 NY Yankees Player of the Year
* 1999 NY Yankees Player of the Year
* 1999 Baseball America 1st-Team Major League All-Star (SS)
* 2000 All-Star Game Most Valuable Player
* 2000 New York Yankees Player of the Year
* 2000 World Series Most Valuable Player
* 2004 AL Gold Glove Award (SS)
* 2004 Baseball America 1st-Team Major League All-Star (SS)
* 2005 AL Gold Glove Award (SS)
* 2006 TSN Award (SS)
* 2006 AL Gold Glove Award (SS)
* 2006 Hank Aaron Award
* 2006 This Year In Baseball Awards Top Hitter
* 2006 NY Yankees Player of the Year
* 2006 AL Silver Slugger (SS)
# 1994 The Sporting News & Baseball America Minor League Player of the Year, Tampa Yankees, Florida State League, Albany-Colonie Yankees, Eastern League & Columbus Clippers, International League
# 1996 AL Rookie of the Year Award
# 1996 Topps All-Star Rookie Team
# 7-time AL All-Star (1998-2002, 2004 & 2006)
# 2000 All-Star Game MVP
# 2000 World Series MVP
# 3-time AL Gold Glove Winner (2004-2006)
# AL Silver Slugger Award Winner (2006)
# AL Runs Scored Leader (1998)
# AL Hits Leader (1999)
# 2-time AL Singles Leader (1997 & 1998)
# 20-Home Run Seasons: 3 (1999, 2001 & 2004)
# 100 RBI Seasons: 1 (1999)
# 100 Runs Scored Seasons: 10 (1996-2002 & 2004-2006)
# 200 Hits Seasons: 5 (1998-2000, 2005 & 2006)
# Won four World Series Rings with the New York Yankees (1996, 1998, 1999 & 2000)

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[Sixerscan]

Tony Gwynn? Are you serious?

I vote for Joe Jackson and his 7th best OPS+ in baseball history. I know he cheated, but come on guys, he should have been off the board like 15-20 spots ago.

[SportsWorld]

Vote: Joe Jackson
Nominate: Ryan Braun

[Jose7]

Ryan Braun

[SportsWorld]

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[bringinhinkie]

these rankings based purely on stats? im sorry, clemens is not the 3rd best pitcher of all time, even yankee homer himself francessa wouldnt even put him top 5 righthanders alone, sammy sosa is not the 37th best player of all time its obvious he used roids and without them probably wouldnt have hit even 450.. tom seaver any1? a much more dominant pitcher than clemens, gibson also a better pitcher than clemens... this list is based purely on stats/longevity which i dont understand.. if you had 1 game to win, youd throw roger clemens out before ANY pitcher not named cy young or walter johnson? no way.. i guess rafael palmero should be right near sosa, i mean he cheated, but it seems you guys arent taking that into effect, dont gimme he was caught bs, cause no1 on this planet thinks sosa didnt take roids, he wouldnt even deny using them, he forgot how to speak english which makes it even more obvious.. i can think of 10 pitchers easily who id throw out to pitch 1 game than clemens..

[34Celtic]

Joe Jackson

Ryan Braun

[HeelSox]

Joe Jackson

Jacoby Ellsbury.

[Da Schwab]

Vote: Harmon Killebrew

Nominate: Fernando Vina

[brewcityboii]

Vote: Joe Jackson.

Nominate: Jake Peavy

these rankings based purely on stats? im sorry, clemens is not the 3rd best pitcher of all time, even yankee homer himself francessa wouldnt even put him top 5 righthanders alone, sammy sosa is not the 37th best player of all time its obvious he used roids and without them probably wouldnt have hit even 450.. tom seaver any1? a much more dominant pitcher than clemens, gibson also a better pitcher than clemens... this list is based purely on stats/longevity which i dont understand.. if you had 1 game to win, youd throw roger clemens out before ANY pitcher not named cy young or walter johnson? no way.. i guess rafael palmero should be right near sosa, i mean he cheated, but it seems you guys arent taking that into effect, dont gimme he was caught bs, cause no1 on this planet thinks sosa didnt take roids, he wouldnt even deny using them, he forgot how to speak english which makes it even more obvious.. i can think of 10 pitchers easily who id throw out to pitch 1 game than clemens..

Good post. Yeah as far as clemens I have him between 15-20 all time pitches. And don't forget the jury is still out on clemens and his steriod use.

[HeelSox]

Good post. Yeah as far as clemens I have him between 15-20 all time pitches. And don't forget the jury is still out on clemens and his steriod use.

Any evidence? Didn't think so.

[brewcityboii]

Good post. Yeah as far as clemens I have him between 15-20 all time pitches. And don't forget the jury is still out on clemens and his steriod use.

Any evidence? Didn't think so.

Is there any evidence on 80% of the steriod use? didn't think so.

[TheSheriff]

Good post. Yeah as far as clemens I have him between 15-20 all time pitches. And don't forget the jury is still out on clemens and his steriod use.

Any evidence? Didn't think so.

There is evidence he corked his bat.

[TheSheriff]

I have some problems with these rankings.

First off, where is Oscar Charleston? Many consider him the best Negro League Player ever. Bill James ranked as the 4th best player of all time, ahead of Ted Williams, Cobb, Mantle, and 5 spots higher than Josh Gibson.

Nolan Ryan is not the 23 best player and Sandy Koufax is not the 18th best. Niether is in the top ten best pitchers of alltime. BTW where is Pete Alexander?

Sammy Sosa? Really?

The rest aren't too bad, but there are certainly some problems here.

[Stanford]

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Is there any evidence on 80% of the steriod use? didn't think so.

So according to your logic we should just throw out everything any player has ever done in the last ten years? Is that correct?

[bringinhinkie]

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So according to your logic we should just throw out everything any player has ever done in the last ten years? Is that correct?

anyone he truely believes sosa n mcgwire didnt juice needs there head examined bigtime. oh and evidence? how bout a video of them refusing to DENY using them through the 5th ammendment and temporarily forgetting how to speak english? if thats not screaming "im guilty!" idk what is..

[34Celtic]

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anyone he truely believes sosa n mcgwire didnt juice needs there head examined bigtime. oh and evidence? how bout a video of them refusing to DENY using them through the 5th ammendment and temporarily forgetting how to speak english? if thats not screaming "im guilty!" idk what is..

I can't believe people still care about this anymore....steroids were part of the game, as well as the Mets clubhouse....get over it and move on.

[TMU]

Vote: None
Nominate: Johan Santana

[Elway=GOAT]

Wow,

Joe Jackson...

Clemons, that high is a joke. Ill glaldy take Maddux, Pedro over him. Randy Johnson was just as good as Clemons has ever been, in the 4 years in AZ. What a Joke voting him that high. Those are the guys in his generation id take over him.

Sosa, even being considered is a joke, and the people who voted for him are a bigger joke. So many guys id rather have over him. Guys that arnt even being considered for the 38th pick, id take over him. The guy was a singles base stealer, and a average one at that, until he got on the juice. Then he blew up and became a power hitter. All he could do is hit home runs, nothing else in his game stood out. Im just astuanded that he was voted in here, wow.