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Post#61 » by Chalm Down » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:13 am

pelifan wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:someone convince me on jaxon


Hands are inch bigger than Kawhis


What u trying to say about big hands peli
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Re: ZION BABY 

Post#62 » by pelifan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:16 am

Chalm Down wrote:
pelifan wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:someone convince me on jaxon


Hands are inch bigger than Kawhis


What u trying to say about big hands peli


My bad fact checked kawhis are bigger by a little.

Idk Chalm
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Post#63 » by Chalm Down » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:19 am

pelifan wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
pelifan wrote:
Hands are inch bigger than Kawhis


What u trying to say about big hands peli


My bad fact checked kawhis are bigger by a little.

Idk Chalm


Oh ok

Here have a hug :hug:
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Post#64 » by Chalm Down » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:20 am

Overall nice wheelin and dealin for pellies today, will be un-ironically posting in pellie gts this season
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Post#65 » by poomaster » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:33 am

Very exciting off season for Pelicans, will be must watch-tv this season
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Post#66 » by GimmeDat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:53 am

Jaxson is a really great pick imo, the only downside is you would ideally want a floor spacer next to Zion in the front-court. But Hayes has a ton of potential and between he and Zion you guys are going to be the new lob city.
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Post#67 » by Illuminaire » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:56 pm

Chalm Down wrote:someone convince me on jaxon


Here is a good long read on him: https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/18/jaxson-hayes-scouting-report/

The TL;DR...
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  • Fluid, explosive athlete with great body control.
  • Highly effective rim-runner and paint protector.
  • Has the speed and agility to be a top-tier defender in the modern NBA.
  • Very good FT shooting indicates potential to add range to his jumper.

Cons
  • Offensive feel: Pitiful, anemic assist rate.
  • Defensive feel: Fouls too much, steals on the low side.
  • Average rebounder for his position, despite physical gifts.

I didn't include "needs to put on weight" because almost every freshman big has to put on weight. His dad was an NFL tight end, he'll be fine there. Hayes is an elite athlete and a mediocre basketball player. The game was too fast for him, even at the college level. But he's also very young, and fairly raw as basketball player; he didn't take it seriously as his main sport until 3-4 years ago.

His floor is a pogo-stick dunker who plays hard for 20 minutes a night. He'll always have a role doing that, even if nothing changes or grows about his game at all. His ceiling is Tyson Chandler with a better frame and a 3-point shot - a beautiful hybrid of old school and new school centers.
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Post#68 » by Illuminaire » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Jaxson is a really great pick imo, the only downside is you would ideally want a floor spacer next to Zion in the front-court. But Hayes has a ton of potential and between he and Zion you guys are going to be the new lob city.


Long term fit is my concern as well. His FT percentage is encouraging, but he's not a natural shooter at all. Even if he develops range, I feel like it will be Marc Gasol-esque at best. A shot where his feet are completely set and there's no defender in sight.

If he can't manage even that... the team will struggle mightily in future playoffs. Especially if they keep Lonzo. :roll:
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Re: ZION BABY 

Post#69 » by Chalm Down » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:50 pm

Illuminaire wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:someone convince me on jaxon


Here is a good long read on him: https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/18/jaxson-hayes-scouting-report/

The TL;DR...
Pro
  • Fluid, explosive athlete with great body control.
  • Highly effective rim-runner and paint protector.
  • Has the speed and agility to be a top-tier defender in the modern NBA.
  • Very good FT shooting indicates potential to add range to his jumper.

Cons
  • Offensive feel: Pitiful, anemic assist rate.
  • Defensive feel: Fouls too much, steals on the low side.
  • Average rebounder for his position, despite physical gifts.

I didn't include "needs to put on weight" because almost every freshman big has to put on weight. His dad was an NFL tight end, he'll be fine there. Hayes is an elite athlete and a mediocre basketball player. The game was too fast for him, even at the college level. But he's also very young, and fairly raw as basketball player; he didn't take it seriously as his main sport until 3-4 years ago.

His floor is a pogo-stick dunker who plays hard for 20 minutes a night. He'll always have a role doing that, even if nothing changes or grows about his game at all. His ceiling is Tyson Chandler with a better frame and a 3-point shot - a beautiful hybrid of old school and new school centers.


the ft% does give me some hope for the jumper
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Re: ZION BABY 

Post#70 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:55 pm

His FT% and his FG% as a whole are encouraging for him on offense. A lot of great athletes still manage to blow easy looks, dunks, and layups.

His frame is really nice, and he's so new to this body, that I can easily see him getting even more explosive and athletic with an NBA diet and workout regimen.
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Post#71 » by karkinos » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:54 pm

def looking to get a weekend ticket package for this season
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Post#72 » by poomaster » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:58 pm

Is Zion playing in summer league?

EDIT.. never mind I saw the SL roster and he is on it. Looking forward to this.

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