2008 Dynasty League Thread

bigboy1234 · Post #241 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:38 pm

Setterlund wrote:**** you guys, Homer Bailey is a future ace!

Hey! We're not just talking bad about Bailey here. Were also saying Elvis is a long shot to be anything and Triunfel is a 3rd baseman. But hey you got a defensive stud in Schafer, too bad defense doesn't count.

CFan21 · Post #242 » by **CFan21** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:40 pm

Chach wrote: Lowrie hits got a good average, draws walks, hits for good power regardless of position (I could see him hitting 20 a year in the majors).

I don't know if things changed dramatically but I remember Lowrie being a slap hitter. A Dustin Pedroia type, except bigger. 20 HR/year might be pushing it. 15 HR and 40 doubles sounds more like it. Still a nice player, but not a top prospect by any means.

CFan21 · Post #243 » by **CFan21** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:50 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:Hey! We're not just talking bad about Bailey here. Were also saying Elvis is a long shot to be anything and Triunfel is a 3rd baseman. But hey you got a defensive stud in Schafer, too bad defense doesn't count.

Y'all are just haters. I've got two guys succeeding in high A at the same age other guys are graduating from high school and both are projectable. Schafer is Ichiro with less speed and Bailey had a rough trial in the majors but is certainly still capable of being an ace.

Bleeding Green · Post #244 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:52 pm

He's not a slap hitter and neither is Pedroia. Pedroia is like the opposite of a slap hitter.

Lowrie in AA last year: .297/.410/.501

55 XBH from a shortstop? 8 SS did that last year.

Bleeding Green · Post #245 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:53 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:You realize you just said Porcello should be the best pitching prospect in baseball, then just said that about Moustakas, right?

Edit-And actually yeah, Hu is better, he supposedly has a great glove at short, while Lowrie has a bad glove at short.

Porcello is **** amazing and will be in the majors by next year.

Lowrie's glove is fine at short.

bigboy1234 · Post #246 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:57 pm

Sett, what are you predicting for Samardzija this year?

Also sub 700 OPS is succeeding?

I agree that Bailey is capable of being an ace, just don't see it actually happening.

And comparing Ichiro and Schafer, thats just terrible.

bigboy1234 · Post #247 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:59 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Porcello is **** amazing and will be in the majors by next year.

Lowrie's glove is fine at short.

When you saw him pitch what did your scouting tell you about him? He probably will be in majors by next year, but thats only because the Tigers push their prospects and he's on a major league deal.

If by fine you mean below average. Not saying I don't like him, because what he did last season was damn impressive. Curious what did you think about him last year at this time?

CFan21 · Post #248 » by **CFan21** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:00 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:He's not a slap hitter and neither is Pedroia. Pedroia is like the opposite of a slap hitter.

Lowrie in AA last year: .297/.410/.501

55 XBH from a shortstop? 8 SS did that last year.

55 extra base hits doesn't mean 20-25 home runs, it means 15 home runs, 35 doubles a 5 triples. Lowrie has always been a slap hitter and so is Pedroia. You're talking out of your ass. Just because Pedroia hits the ball harder than any other 5-8 guy in baseball doesn't mean he's not a slap hitter.

Chach · Post #249 » by **Chach** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:01 pm

Setterlund wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I don't know if things changed dramatically but I remember Lowrie being a slap hitter. A Dustin Pedroia type, except bigger. 20 HR/year might be pushing it. 15 HR and 40 doubles sounds more like it. Still a nice player, but not a top prospect by any means.

Lowrie won the PAC-10 Triple Crown as a sophomore, hit well even though everyone was pitching around him as a junior, and had a fantastic campaign last year. He hits the ball with authority and has some lift to the ball. Easly could hit 20 HRs year. I really like the Carlos Guillen comp with slightly less power and more walks.

When you compare a player to Ichiro, you are getting yourself into trouble because Ichiro is so unique and then when add the qualifier, "with less speed", you completely waste the comp because Ichiro game is based around his speed. This may make Schafer a good player in the real world but in terms of fantasy, he better hit the ball harder than Ichiro because he won't beat out all those IF throws that allows Ichiro to hit .330 every year. mahalo
~Chach~

CFan21 · Post #250 » by **CFan21** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:09 pm

Chach wrote:
When you compare a player to Ichiro, you are getting yourself into trouble because Ichiro is so unique and then when add the qualifier, "with less speed", you completely waste the comp because Ichiro game is based around his speed. This may make Schafer a good player in the real world but in terms of fantasy, he better hit the ball harder than Ichiro because he won't beat out all those IF throws that allows Ichiro to hit .330 every year.

Ok, fine, I was just making an outfield comparison. Placido Polanco in the outfield then. With 15-20 SB a year. I was just saying Schafer is going to be a 200 hit type of player.

Benny Blanco · Post #251 » by **Benny Blanco** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:17 pm

Chin-Lung Hu

bigboy1234 · Post #252 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:20 pm

Benny Blanco wrote:Chin-Lung Hu

Bad news...I kind of own him.

CFan21 · Post #253 » by **CFan21** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:31 pm

I mean I know its within the rules, but you're kind of being an **** about this stuff man. First Headley now Hu. You pick up guys right when they're about to get drafted.

Chach · Post #254 » by **Chach** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:35 pm

Setterlund wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

55 extra base hits doesn't mean 20-25 home runs, it means 15 home runs, 35 doubles a 5 triples. Lowrie has always been a slap hitter and so is Pedroia. You're talking out of your ass. Just because Pedroia hits the ball harder than any other 5-8 guy in baseball doesn't mean he's not a slap hitter.

Someone slip you a spanish fly over there? A slap hitter is someone who DOESN'T hit the ball hard. By definition, Pedroia is the complete opposite of it. Stinging line drives and long fly balls is not a slap hitter. Juan Pierre is a slap hitter, someone who makes weak contact and lets his wheels get him on base.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baseball_jargon_(S)#slap_hitter

A hitter who sacrifices power for batting average, trying to make contact with the ball and "hit it where they ain't". Prime examples: Ty Cobb, Tony Gwynn, Pete Rose, Rod Carew, and Ichiro Suzuki.

You can hit .320 and not hit for a ton of power. Pedroia and Lowrie both have pretty level swings, which induce a lot of line drives but the lack of upper-cut reduces the HR total. Reducing the chances of a HR is not the same as reducing power. mahalo
~Chach~

bigboy1234 · Post #255 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:37 pm

Setterlund wrote:I mean I know its within the rules, but you're kind of being an **** about this stuff man. First Headley now Hu. You pick up guys right when they're about to get drafted.

I picked up Headley before I even drafted Wieters. Are you saying Headley should be about drafted there? Also, how am I suppose to know when players are going to get drafted. Someone could have drafted Hu yesterday, and I would have been **** out of luck. All these guys could have been picked in the free agent draft, or just picked up before I picked them up.

Post #256 » by **TyCobb** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:47 pm

I think he's just messing with you bigboy. Now give me Upton and Maybin.

bigboy1234 · Post #257 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:51 pm

Upton + Maybin for White Kemp?

Post #258 » by **TyCobb** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:57 pm

Maybin for Francouer.

Post #259 » by **TyCobb** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:01 pm

Bigboy, just give Hu to benny so we can get this draft moving...

Chach · Post #260 » by **Chach** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:07 pm

TyCobb wrote:Bigboy, just give Hu to benny so we can get this draft moving...

I agree. Hu isn't good enough to justify sitting around for a week waiting for Benny to stop by again. mahalo
~Chach~