https://www.talkingchop.com/2018/5/7/17327130/anthopoulos-discusses-craig-kimbrel-plans-offseason-a-list-q-a-atlanta-braves-payroll
Anybody know if we could afford Kimbrel and Harper? That would be a grand slam of an offseason.
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Kimbrel would certainly be welcomed back with open arms but I'm not too crazy about the idea of paying a closer as much as he'll demand.
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ATL Boy wrote:Kimbrel would certainly be welcomed back with open arms but I'm not too crazy about the idea of paying a closer as much as he'll demand.
IDK man, a closer of his caliber is important. If we had Kimbrel in the '90s, we would have more than that one WS. Didn't we lose twice to the Yankees in the WS? They had Mariano. We had an average at best closer back then.
And I see these baby Braves looking like the Astros once they started to put it together. We still have young starters that will be coming up and have the pieces and money to make moves in the next year or so. Having Kimbrel would be huge. We could win a WS in 2-3 years.
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I would like to have Kimbrel back to look back on as know he returned and so he can continue producing as a Brave. Only if he's going to be productive obviously. He would also be great for our locker room.
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I don't get it. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/06/braves-rumors-craig-kimbrel-not-finalists.html Apparently the Braves are making no effort to even try to sign Kimbrell. Cubs are most likely to sign him. We're really going with Luke Jackson as the closer - who was outrighted off the 40 man roster 3 times... last season. Who knows - maybe Toukki or Newsome end up as the closer.
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Ruzious wrote:I don't get it. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/06/braves-rumors-craig-kimbrel-not-finalists.html Apparently the Braves are making no effort to even try to sign Kimbrell. Cubs are most likely to sign him. We're really going with Luke Jackson as the closer - who was outrighted off the 40 man roster 3 times... last season. Who knows - maybe Toukki or Newsome end up as the closer.
Liberty Media needs to go.
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AJCMark Bradley wrote:Kimbrel’s not coming. Should the Braves be ashamed? (No)
Craig Kimbrel has found a team, and it’s not the team Braves Country wanted him to find. Ergo, Braves Country is ticked.
And here we say…Hold those horses.
The Braves had reasons — you mightn’t want to hear this — to be leery of Kimbrel. If they hadn’t, they’d have signed him in February. They do have money available. They could have fit him, barely, within the do-not-cross payroll line dictated by heartless/faceless Liberty Media. But accommodating the prodigal pitcher would have compromised this year’s team in that Anthopoulos would have had almost nothing to spend to address needs that cropped up during the season.
As to how much Kimbrel would have helped … that was a concern, too. It said something that the Red Sox, who have lots of money, didn’t feel compelled to keep the closer who’d helped them win a World Series
The Braves could have found the money, but would that have been an optimum allocation of resources not just in 2019 but in 2021? Anthopoulos didn’t want to go beyond two contractual years, and the reason Kimbrel remained unemployed was his refusal to accept anything less.
I understand the angst, but there’s a bigger picture here. Not signing a 31-year-old closer doesn’t mean the Braves aren’t trying. There were legitimate reasons — his age, his October, his insistence on three years — for them to balk. And now they, and he, and we move on.
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Jamaaliver wrote:AJCMark Bradley wrote:Kimbrel’s not coming. Should the Braves be ashamed? (No)
Craig Kimbrel has found a team, and it’s not the team Braves Country wanted him to find. Ergo, Braves Country is ticked.
And here we say…Hold those horses.
The Braves had reasons — you mightn’t want to hear this — to be leery of Kimbrel. If they hadn’t, they’d have signed him in February. They do have money available. They could have fit him, barely, within the do-not-cross payroll line dictated by heartless/faceless Liberty Media. But accommodating the prodigal pitcher would have compromised this year’s team in that Anthopoulos would have had almost nothing to spend to address needs that cropped up during the season.
As to how much Kimbrel would have helped … that was a concern, too. It said something that the Red Sox, who have lots of money, didn’t feel compelled to keep the closer who’d helped them win a World Series
The Braves could have found the money, but would that have been an optimum allocation of resources not just in 2019 but in 2021? Anthopoulos didn’t want to go beyond two contractual years, and the reason Kimbrel remained unemployed was his refusal to accept anything less.
I understand the angst, but there’s a bigger picture here. Not signing a 31-year-old closer doesn’t mean the Braves aren’t trying. There were legitimate reasons — his age, his October, his insistence on three years — for them to balk. And now they, and he, and we move on.
Bologna. Teams waited till now to make offers because they were willing to wait so they wouldn't have to give up a pick. The proof is the Cubs did... in fact... give him a 3 year contract. And the Red Sox didn't sign him because that would have cost them a fortune in luxury tax money - something that's obviously not an issue for the Braves.
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