2020 Braves Off-season & Spring Training Thread....

Nemesis21 · Post #81 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:02 am

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It's officially Arenado or bust ladies and gentleman.

Post #82 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:48 pm

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It's officially Arenado or bust ladies and gentleman.

Ah fudge!

If the Braves weren't going to beat that for Donaldson, I can't see them willing to pay $35 mil a year for Arenado's - as well as give up good players to get him.

Spring Training isn't that far away. Might as well see how Camargo and Riley do.

Nemesis21 · Post #83 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:34 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

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It's officially Arenado or bust ladies and gentleman.

Ah fudge!

If the Braves weren't going to beat that for Donaldson, I can't see them willing to pay $35 mil a year for Arenado's - as well as give up good players to get him.

Spring Training isn't that far away. Might as well see how Camargo and Riley do.

Not the same thing. Braves didn't want to go to a fourth year with a player of Donaldson's age and injury history. Arenado is 6 years younger. You have to make a big move, can't go into the season with Riley/Camargo at 3b. Need a big big bat behind Freeman. Making a move like this is the difference from perennial WS favorite vs perennial NL East favorite. Arenado is still in his prime, pair him with Freeman and Acuna for the next 7 years, who beats you in NL?

Post #84 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:57 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

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It's officially Arenado or bust ladies and gentleman.

Ah fudge!

If the Braves weren't going to beat that for Donaldson, I can't see them willing to pay $35 mil a year for Arenado's - as well as give up good players to get him.

Spring Training isn't that far away. Might as well see how Camargo and Riley do.

Not the same thing. Braves didn't want to go to a fourth year with a player of Donaldson's age and injury history. Arenado is 6 years younger. You have to make a big move, can't go into the season with Riley/Camargo at 3b. Need a big big bat behind Freeman. Making a move like this is the difference from perennial WS favorite vs perennial NL East favorite. Arenado is still in his prime, pair him with Freeman and Acuna for the next 7 years, who beats you in NL?

I hear ya, but there's 226 mil over 7 years left on Arenado's contract. That's a bigger risk and much bigger outlay cash than 92 mil over 4 years for Donaldson. I'd be happy if the Braves get Arenado, but I'll also be shocked if it happens. At the price Minnesota paid, Atlanta should have matched it, imo.

Nemesis21 · Post #85 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:26 am

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Post #86 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:39 pm

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Grats to Hech - glad to see it. He played well for the Braves - hit surprisingly well and seems like he's more than adequate defensively up the middle.

Nemesis21 · Post #87 » by **Nemesis21** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:45 pm

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/braves-to-sign-felix-hernandez.html

Could be a small gamble, that becomes a big reward!

Post #88 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:54 am

Nemesis21 wrote:https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/braves-to-sign-felix-hernandez.html

Could be a small gamble, that becomes a big reward!

I like this a lot.
Very excited for the upcoming spring.

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Post #89 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:07 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/braves-to-sign-felix-hernandez.html

Could be a small gamble, that becomes a big reward!
I like this a lot.
Very excited for the upcoming spring.

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Me three. I don't expect anything, but King Felix was the best in the AL for several years. Seen it so many times when a pitcher loses his velocity, he can no longer be effective the way he used to pitch.

Post #90 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:01 pm

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/surveying-the-market-for-starling-marte.html
It's just speculation, but Marte could be a target for the Braves. Marte's got 2 years left on his contract at about 4 mil more a year than Inciarte. I think the Pirates would obviously love to get either Pache or Waters. The Braves would probably want to include Ender - to drop salary. Is Marte - at age 30 - good enough to warrant giving up one of the Braves' 2 stud OF prospects - given that he's excellent defensively and on the basepaths, hits well, and has some pop. I thought he was going to become a big star, but that never quite happened. Ultimately, I can't see the Braves giving up Pache or Waters for a 2 year rental, but I do think the Braves need to add someone of his talent level in the OF this season.

Nemesis21 · Post #91 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:37 pm

Ruzious wrote:https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/surveying-the-market-for-starling-marte.html
It's just speculation, but Marte could be a target for the Braves. Marte's got 2 years left on his contract at about 4 mil more a year than Inciarte. I think the Pirates would obviously love to get either Pache or Waters. The Braves would probably want to include Ender - to drop salary. Is Marte - at age 30 - good enough to warrant giving up one of the Braves' 2 stud OF prospects - given that he's excellent defensively and on the basepaths, hits well, and has some pop. I thought he was going to become a big star, but that never quite happened. Ultimately, I can't see the Braves giving up Pache or Waters for a 2 year rental, but I do think the Braves need to add someone of his talent level in the OF this season.

No way I give up Pache or Waters for Marte. I don't do it for Bryant. I'd trade one for Arenado in a heartbeat though.

I still think we must trade for Arenado.

In the event that we don't trade for Arenado, and go with Camargo/Riley, who would you rather add to the OF Marte or Ozuna?

Post #92 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:05 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/surveying-the-market-for-starling-marte.html
It's just speculation, but Marte could be a target for the Braves. Marte's got 2 years left on his contract at about 4 mil more a year than Inciarte. I think the Pirates would obviously love to get either Pache or Waters. The Braves would probably want to include Ender - to drop salary. Is Marte - at age 30 - good enough to warrant giving up one of the Braves' 2 stud OF prospects - given that he's excellent defensively and on the basepaths, hits well, and has some pop. I thought he was going to become a big star, but that never quite happened. Ultimately, I can't see the Braves giving up Pache or Waters for a 2 year rental, but I do think the Braves need to add someone of his talent level in the OF this season.

No way I give up Pache or Waters for Marte. I don't do it for Bryant. I'd trade one for Arenado in a heartbeat though.

I still think we must trade for Arenado.

In the event that we don't trade for Arenado, and go with Camargo/Riley, who would you rather add to the OF Marte or Ozuna?

Ozuna's not an answer, imo. Offensively, Marte had an OPS+ of 121 vs Ozuna's 107. But it's defensively that there's a huge difference. Ozuna's a bad LFer and made a couple of terrible plays in the NL playoffs. Marte's a multiple GG winner in LF - which is a rarity, because most GG OF winners are CFers. Now, he does play CF, and he was 4th in both 2018 and 2019 in range factor among all OFers. He also adds a speed factor on the bases. This is bad as it gets, lol (ouch):

Watch on YouTube

Nemesis21 · Post #93 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:05 am

Ruzious wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/surveying-the-market-for-starling-marte.html
It's just speculation, but Marte could be a target for the Braves. Marte's got 2 years left on his contract at about 4 mil more a year than Inciarte. I think the Pirates would obviously love to get either Pache or Waters. The Braves would probably want to include Ender - to drop salary. Is Marte - at age 30 - good enough to warrant giving up one of the Braves' 2 stud OF prospects - given that he's excellent defensively and on the basepaths, hits well, and has some pop. I thought he was going to become a big star, but that never quite happened. Ultimately, I can't see the Braves giving up Pache or Waters for a 2 year rental, but I do think the Braves need to add someone of his talent level in the OF this season.

No way I give up Pache or Waters for Marte. I don't do it for Bryant. I'd trade one for Arenado in a heartbeat though.

I still think we must trade for Arenado.

In the event that we don't trade for Arenado, and go with Camargo/Riley, who would you rather add to the OF Marte or Ozuna?

Ozuna's not an answer, imo. Offensively, Marte had an OPS+ of 121 vs Ozuna's 107. But it's defensively that there's a huge difference. Ozuna's a bad LFer and made a couple of terrible plays in the NL playoffs. Marte's a multiple GG winner in LF - which is a rarity, because most GG OF winners are CFers. Now, he does play CF, and he was 4th in both 2018 and 2019 in range factor among all OFers. He also adds a speed factor on the bases. This is bad as it gets, lol (ouch):

Watch on YouTube

Well then,

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/braves-sign-marcell-ozuna.html

Post #94 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:26 am

Nemesis21 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

No way I give up Pache or Waters for Marte. I don't do it for Bryant. I'd trade one for Arenado in a heartbeat though.

I still think we must trade for Arenado.

In the event that we don't trade for Arenado, and go with Camargo/Riley, who would you rather add to the OF Marte or Ozuna?

Ozuna's not an answer, imo. Offensively, Marte had an OPS+ of 121 vs Ozuna's 107. But it's defensively that there's a huge difference. Ozuna's a bad LFer and made a couple of terrible plays in the NL playoffs. Marte's a multiple GG winner in LF - which is a rarity, because most GG OF winners are CFers. Now, he does play CF, and he was 4th in both 2018 and 2019 in range factor among all OFers. He also adds a speed factor on the bases. This is bad as it gets, lol (ouch):

Watch on YouTube

Well then,

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/braves-sign-marcell-ozuna.html

I literally laughed out loud.

Hey, he's a legit major leaguer, and he's better than nothing. And maybe the NL adopts the DH this year. I just hope he doesn't hurt himself too much playing LF.

And the best thing is we didn't trade Pache or Waters. Hey, these rose-colored glasses I got are working. Well, not working so well when I saw they're paying him $18 million. That's... really stupid, but it's just 1 year.

Post #95 » by **HMFFL** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:11 pm

One year deal! I will take the additional talent.

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Post #96 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:15 pm

Cole Hamels Q&A: On Braves’ appeal, idolizing Tom Glavine

https://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/cole-hamels-braves-appeal-idolizing-tom-glavine/mqE70rFnL1CZBfzvbqF25K/amp.html

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Nemesis21 · Post #97 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:14 pm

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Post #98 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:35 am

^
I expect good things from him this season.

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Post #99 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:36 am

I have only heard San Diego and the LA Dodgers in talks with Boston for Betts. I doubt we get involved.

Should the Atlanta Braves jump in on Mookie Betts?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/tomahawktake.com/2020/01/30/atlanta-braves-should-trade-mookie-betts/amp/

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Nemesis21 · Post #100 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:01 pm

No to Betts for 1 year. No to Bryant for 2 years. Not trading top prospects, for that little of contract control.