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Rockies interested in Delcarmen?
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:40 pm
by Dirty Water
Surfing around and found this tiny tidbit.
Jul 23 Michael Phillips, of Rockies.MLB.com, reports the Colorado Rockies are interested in acquiring Boston Red Sox P Manny Delcarmen.
Who would we take from Colorado?
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:15 pm
by sunshinekids99
I can't see Delcarmen going anywhere. If they want him they better be offering something good.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:31 pm
by Bleeding Green
I don't see anything that works from Colorado unless it's part of a significant deal that includes Atkins, Helton or someone like Tulowitzki.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:36 pm
by Chach
No way he gets moved. He and Timlin are starting to settle in very nicely as the 7-8th inning guys with Okajima and Paps at the end of the pen. Plus he's young, cost controlled, from the area, and been in our system so we have tracked his health his entire career. On what planet would the Sox consider trading him unless he was a cog in a larger package. At which point, the question is no longer are the Rox interested in Manny but who are the Sox trying to pry from Colorado in exchange for Manny plus others? mahalo
~Chach~
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:30 am
by Markos
Youkilis,Manny, Lowell, MDC, for Helton (+money) Atkins and top minor league pitcher
put Coco in left and Ellsbury in center
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:13 am
by The Rondo Show
Markos wrote:Youkilis,Manny, Lowell, MDC, for Helton (+money) Atkins and top minor league pitcher
put Coco in left and Ellsbury in center
That deal is terrible for the Red Sox.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:16 am
by Basketball Jesus
Markos wrote:Youkilis,Manny, Lowell, MDC, for Helton (+money) Atkins and top minor league pitcher
put Coco in left and Ellsbury in center
My brain just exploded. Thank you...now clean up my computer.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:58 am
by HeelSox
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:07 am
by sunshinekids99
Markos wrote:Youkilis,Manny, Lowell, MDC, for Helton (+money) Atkins and top minor league pitcher
put Coco in left and Ellsbury in center
Jeez can we not kill the team?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:54 am
by Celtics_Champs
Of course there interested. Who wouldnt be?
Also, that trade makes me puke.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:24 am
by Markos
kobeSTOPkobeDONT wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
That deal is terrible for the Red Sox.
i know, but since the topic was brought up I just threw out a random idea. There is really no deal that can help us....but only move us laterally.
Maybe if we can dump Lugo or Drew on them in some manner it might be worth exploring....otherwise its just a waste of time
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:38 am
by Jimmy103
Markos wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
i know, but since the topic was brought up I just threw out a random idea. There is really no deal that can help us....but only move us laterally.
Maybe if we can dump Lugo or Drew on them in some manner it might be worth exploring....otherwise its just a waste of time
Hey if they'll take JD Drew, I will personally pick up and deliver MDC to Colorado.
Otherwise I see no point in trading MDC (for what he'd get us in return, I'd bite on Atkins haha)
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:02 am
by Markos
Jimmy103 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Hey if they'll take JD Drew, I will personally pick up and deliver MDC to Colorado.
Otherwise I see no point in trading MDC (for what he'd get us in return, I'd bite on Atkins haha)
MDC and drew for Atkins...its reasonable
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:58 am
by Basketball Jesus
Atkins isn't that good, so why are we trading for him?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:14 pm
by Celtics_Champs
According to the wiretap, we have interest in helton...
What the heck is our hard on for powerfull first basemen? Youk is playing gold glove caliber defense, and lowell is putting up power numbers.
Deal almost went down this offseason, so I am not sure whether this is just something to look over, or not. Then again, helton has said he doesnt want to switch teams in the midddle of the season.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:16 am
by Markos
Basketball Jesus wrote:Atkins isn't that good, so why are we trading for him?
well if you can dump a 15 million dollar a year outfielder who is not performing well for a corner infielder who performs equally well/bad and makes 400K, Id do it
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:57 am
by The Rondo Show
Markos wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
well if you can dump a 15 million dollar a year outfielder who is not performing well for a corner infielder who performs equally well/bad and makes 400K, Id do it
Straight up? I would as well. Too bad you didn't accomplish that, though.
Atkins: .260/.326/.434/.761(rounded up)
Ramirez: .298/.399/.494/.891
That isn't even considering the fact that Atkins has been much worse than those numbers suggest and can't hit away from Coors (OPS just above .600), either.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:30 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Markos wrote:
well if you can dump a 15 million dollar a year outfielder who is not performing well for a corner infielder who performs equally well/bad and makes 400K, Id do it
Uhhh...
1. If you trade Drew, who replaces him in the field?
2. Where would you put Lowell and/or Atkins then?
3. What does money have to do with anything?
4. Atkins sucks. A lot.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:02 pm
by Markos
Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Uhhh...
1. If you trade Drew, who replaces him in the field?
2. Where would you put Lowell and/or Atkins then?
3. What does money have to do with anything?
4. Atkins sucks. A lot.
In my OP I suggested doing the trade in the offseason. Lowell is a FA after the season and unless Arod is available we would have to resign a 33 year old 3B because I dont think we have that many options on the market and noone in the system to replace him. A corner outfielder to replace Drew would not be as difficult to find.
As ar as him sucking away ffrom Coors, it could be just a fluke. Coors is not as hitter friendly as it once was.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:53 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Ah, offseason. Gotcha
