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Tim Wakefield should not make the playoff roster

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:02 am
by Boston's Future
Wakefield has entered one of his bad streaks, and from past history, I've learned that Wakefield's bad streaks are longer than his good streaks. At this rate, Wake wouldn't be pitching good again until the middle of October. Schilling, Beckett, and Daisuke is all you need for starters in the 5 game ALDS series. For a 7 game series, throwing Wakefield out there is as much a liability as having Buchholz start. And you can't have Wakefield pitch out of the pen because everytime he comes in, Tek has to go out, and some offensivley catcher named Cash or Mirabelli has to come in catch him. Its just not worth it.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:49 am
by sunshinekids99
Not really sure what the point of this is, we both know Wakefield is going to be one of the starters in the playoffs. As he should be.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:18 am
by Bleeding Green
He'll be the fourth starter should it come to that, though hopefully they won't need a fourth starter in the playoffs. Regardless he'll be on the roster as a reliever at worst.

Can you please start quantifying your remarks. Wake's bad streaks are longer than his good streaks? Do you even begin to believe this to be true?

Varitek can catch Wakefield. Stop with this madness.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:38 pm
by Boston's Future
Wakefield doesn't deserve it, its hard to comeback when your down in a 5 or 6 run whole and its only the third inning. Thats demoralizing for a team His era will be over 5.00 by the end of the year. Buccholz should be this teams 4th starter. Then again, Wakefield would be suited for not pitching on a mad amount of rest, but still, you can't just give the other team one game in the ALCS or WS, if we even make it that far

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:33 pm
by sunshinekids99
The Sox don't want Buchholz over his innings limit, so I don't even think he's an option to start at this point. Wakefield has done enough this season to get the Game 4 start. I'd rather give a start to a guy that has done it before than a guy like Lester. I don't even think Lester makes the postseason roster, so him getting a start over Wakefield I don't think happens.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:29 am
by GreenGrizz
We started with Wakefield during the 2004 World Series against St. Louis. I think Francona's purpose to use him was to wear down hitters' mentality for next games.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:08 pm
by sunshinekids99
^^^Yeah that worked out great, he did go a solid 3.2 innings giving up 5 runs.

As for Wakefield I know he's been bad in the playoffs recently. But I also know he's the 4th starter and can be almost unhittable if he can get going. While I like Buchholz now is not the time to be putting a rookie out there to win a playoff game.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:40 pm
by Boston's Future
Well Wakefield is going to be hittable because he's on a **** streak right now. Maybe if the Sox give him like 15 days of rest he'll be good. We only need 3 pitchers for the ALDS. Wake gets one start in the ALCS, and one in the World Series, god thats too much Wake

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:05 am
by Basketball Jesus
Boston's Future wrote:We only need 3 pitchers for the ALDS.


You plan on pitching your starters nine innings every game? On three days' rest?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:41 pm
by Boston's Future
The Sox can choose the format they want, I imagine they would want the series to take 8 days as opposed to sevin. Beckett goes in game 1 and game 4. Thats 3 days of rest, Schil in game two and game 5, 4 days of rest. Dice-K goes game three because he doesn't pitch as well on four days rest. Only Beckett goes on 3 days rest, the guy wants to pitch and is a gamer, he can handle it.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:59 pm
by fdefore
sunshinekids99 wrote:The Sox don't want Buchholz over his innings limit, so I don't even think he's an option to start at this point. Wakefield has done enough this season to get the Game 4 start. I'd rather give a start to a guy that has done it before than a guy like Lester. I don't even think Lester makes the postseason roster, so him getting a start over Wakefield I don't think happens.


so about that.....

Buchholz season over because of fatigue

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:57 am
by sunshinekids99
There is no reason to get him hurt. It's too bad cause I would have liked to see what he could do coming out of the pen in the postseason.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:08 pm
by canman1971
Regardless if Wakefield garners a start or not, one thing needs to be certain; Mirabelli cannot, I repeat, cannot get a start behind the plate.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:18 pm
by sunshinekids99
Mirabelli will be the starting catcher, this is how it's gone all season and it's not going to change now.

Now if Wake comes out of the pen I do agree the Sox just need to keep Tek behind the plate.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:39 pm
by canman1971
sunshinekids99 wrote:Mirabelli will be the starting catcher, this is how it's gone all season and it's not going to change now.

Now if Wake comes out of the pen I do agree the Sox just need to keep Tek behind the plate.


When Wake pitched in the 04 playoffs, didn't Tek catch him?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:55 pm
by sunshinekids99
When Wakefield came in for relief he did. Wakefield was a relief pitcher for the first two rounds. Bronson Arroyo started game 3 against the Angels. Arroyo started game 3 and Lowe started 4 and 7 against New York.

Wakefield only had 1 start and that was Game 1 of the World Series. And Mirabelli was the catcher.

Posted: Wed Oct 3, 2007 1:41 pm
by DorfonCeltics
Well looks like you were wrong Sunshine. Wake got the boot for the ALDS. Of course they said it was his back but you gotta know it's because we didn't really need him in a short series.

Posted: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:31 pm
by sunshinekids99
Actually I'm sure it's from his back. Would you rather have a vet that has come out of the pen or a young guy who's done it once in his career in Lester?

Posted: Wed Oct 3, 2007 9:02 pm
by Boston's Future
The whole back thing is probably a smokescreen for the fact that team is too embarrased to leave Wake off the roster because of the fact that he sucks too much

Posted: Thu Oct 4, 2007 1:26 am
by sunshinekids99
Yeah good call, keep up the quality posting.