Brian Roberts?

hermes · Post #121 » by **hermes** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:57 am

shoot

Posey H8er · Post #122 » by **Posey H8er** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:25 am

LoLz a 9 player deal of Roberts and Bedard for 7 other Cubs was turned down. I am 99.9% sure that was complete crap again.

SportsWorld · Post #123 » by **SportsWorld** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:15 am

Posey H8er wrote:LoLz a 9 player deal of Roberts and Bedard for 7 other Cubs was turned down. I am 99.9% sure that was complete crap again.

No, the deal is done. I just contacted my sources and they told me the deal is done and the paperwork is at the MLB office.

ChronicKerr · Post #124 » by **ChronicKerr** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:25 pm

i would love to get both roberts and bedard. 7 players is a bit ridiculous. The Tigers didn't even have to give up that much for both Cabrera and Dontrelle. My guess with Pineilla saying the deal is put to bed at the convention is that the Orioles requests for players are too steep and Pineilla is blowing smoke saying its dead in order for them to lower their asking price. I only want to see one of Theriot and Derosa on the field.

SportsWorld · Post #125 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:27 am

More trade chatter on Roberts, Bedard
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/base ... ?track=rss

The two Orioles in this scenario are Roberts and Erik Bedard, and it's conceivable that the Cubs inquired about obtaining both of them. If that's true, it doesn't sound like the talks progressed very far, judging by MacPhail's reaction.

It now appears that the Cubs would be willing to part with Rich Hill if they could get Roberts and Bedard in return, but the Orioles haven't shown a willingness to package their two bargaining chips in the same trade. And at least two people in the organization don't believe the Cubs have enough to offer in such a blockbuster. It makes more sense to milk the Seattle Mariners' roster in a Bedard trade

hermes · Post #126 » by **hermes** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:49 pm

we're trying to get both now
well i don't think it will happen
it would be nice if it did

SportsWorld · Post #127 » by **SportsWorld** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:55 am

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribu ... for-t.html

2. So what's up with the supposed 7-for-2 deal with Bedard and Roberts? The read here is this involves a lot of both posturing and face-saving as the Cubs try to do the impossible -- that is, make a significant trade with the Orioles for players whom owner Peter Angelos has not ordered dumped (i.e., Miguel Tejada).

It makes total sense for the Cubs to pursue both players, not just Roberts. I believe Cubs general manager Jim Hendry has tried to soft sell his interest in hopes of expanding a possible Roberts deal. If Andy MacPhail couldn't get Angelos to sign off on the deal at the end of last week, a combination of frustration and gamesmanship could have led Hendry and Lou Piniella to declare the deal dead at the Cubs' convention. I trust the source who has said it has been revived -- something that could not have happened if Hendry had revealed that Angelos was undercutting MacPhail's authority, which he pledged not to do -- so the question is whether Hendry can balance the needs of the Orioles and Rangers and somehow land Bedard, Roberts and Byrd, maybe even in a three-way deal.

And there's still the question of what to do with Mark DeRosa, if Roberts arrives. Some have said the Cubs are worried about Bedard's "medicals,'' but others around baseball believe he should be fine after being shut down at the end of the season with a strained muscle in his side.

hermes · Post #128 » by **hermes** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:39 pm

i'm not worried about his medicals
get it done jim!

hermes · Post #129 » by **hermes** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:40 pm

double post for emphasis

Howling Mad · Post #130 » by **Howling Mad** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:40 pm

The talks will not end until all three deadlines have passed. I'm happy with our team.

SportsWorld · Post #131 » by **SportsWorld** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:51 pm

More updates!

FWIW- Jeff Zrebiec (sp?) from the Sun was on Schmuck's radio show today. He "predicts" Bedard will be traded to the M's by the middle of the week and Roberts will be a Cub by the end of the week or early the following week. He also said he believes the Orioles are counting on getting a closer in one of the deals (specifically mentioned Sherrill) because he has spoken to the agents of all remaining closers on the FA market and they confirmed the Orioles have not contacted any of them.

Roberts will also be a Cub very soon. As in almost directly after Bedard is gone, FWIW.

I remember when Roberts was a Cub 3 weeks ago.

Ruben Douglas · Post #132 » by **Ruben Douglas** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:58 am

SportsWorld wrote:More updates!
FWIW- Jeff Zrebiec (sp?) from the Sun was on Schmuck's radio show today. He "predicts" Bedard will be traded to the M's by the middle of the week and Roberts will be a Cub by the end of the week or early the following week. He also said he believes the Orioles are counting on getting a closer in one of the deals (specifically mentioned Sherrill) because he has spoken to the agents of all remaining closers on the FA market and they confirmed the Orioles have not contacted any of them.

Roberts will also be a Cub very soon. As in almost directly after Bedard is gone, FWIW.

I remember when Roberts was a Cub 3 weeks ago.

With all these rumors it will be interesting to see where Roberts and Bedard end up by Spring Training. Is McPhail just bluffing? He's obviously been trying to trade these two for a while now and it seems as though he is trying to get the most for them as he can (who wouldn't). But I think he might be starting to realize that the supply isn't meeting the demand for these two. No other team has blown him away in a deal for Roberts or it would have been done by now. I really feel that if he wants to trade Roberts it's going to be to the Cubs or to no team until the trade deadline. It comes down to McPhail's level of patience.

Posey H8er · Post #133 » by **Posey H8er** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:24 am

Report: Mariners to acquire Bedard for Jones
Link

Adam Jones is flying to Baltimore for a physical on Monday, suggesting the Orioles and Mariners have agreed to an Erik Bedard trade.
Jones said he's been told the deal is done, though he doesn't know who is going with him to Baltimore. Asked by the Seattle Times tonight, George Sherrill said he had heard nothing to suggest he's being included. Top prospects Chris Tillman, Jeff Clement, Carlos Triunfel and Wladimir Balentien are among the players whose names have come up in rumors.

Maybe this opens up trade talks and finally a trade for Roberts? :roll:

Howling Mad · Post #134 » by **Howling Mad** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:34 am

Good find Posey.

I have faith in this being a catalyst to the Cubs-O's deal.

If this is true, I think its a smart thing for the O's to sell off their players in order of their value/importance.

Tejada
Bedard
Roberts

Their three big assets. Now with Tejada and Bedard gone, why in the hell would they keep Roberts.

This is good for the Cubbies.

Posey H8er · Post #135 » by **Posey H8er** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:52 am

Trade Cedeno, Gallagher, and Marshall for Roberts.

My backup plan is to trade Cedeno and Murton for Khalil Greene, but there are no indications that San Diego would be willing to do that kind of a deal.

... My ideal lineup posted again ...

1. Roberts
2. Fukudome
3. Lee
4. Ramirez
5. Soriano
6. Derosa
7. Soto
8. Pie

Best lineup in the National League to go along with one of the best pitching staffs and deepest bullpens.

Ruben Douglas · Post #136 » by **Ruben Douglas** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:56 am

Looks like McPhail got what he wanted. Let's just hope we find out the details of the trade soon and find out exactly what it'll take to get Roberts. Get it done Hendry.

SportsWorld · Post #137 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:58 am

According to the insiders at the Orioles forum the Orioles would like Marquis in a deal. I would gladly give up Marquis.

Howling Mad · Post #138 » by **Howling Mad** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:01 am

Marquis, you serious?

Why would they want Marquis?

contract, no. talent, no. young, no. success, no. why?

SportsWorld · Post #139 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:04 am

BULL even PAX wrote:Marquis, you serious?

Why would they want Marquis?

contract, no. talent, no. young, no. success, no. why?

Remember, these are the same people that said the Roberts to the Cubs deal was done about 3 weeks ago.

Fukudome1 · Post #140 » by **Fukudome1** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:30 am

damn after i gave up on the roberts stuff, now i gotta start thinking about it again.