Trade Deadline Thread

[SportsWorld]

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/7/2 ... -ball-cubs

Also heard today that the Cubs are working on a deal to get some pitching help (without revealing who, I think we'll all be very happy if this deal gets completed) and are also still in the market for a catcher. The injury to Lilly, I would assume, may press the pitching-possibility deal into high gear (that's my speculation).

Kazmir?

[GYBE]

Stats don't prove your fielding ability.

Well they're getting pretty good at it. It's true advanced fielding stats aren't perfect at this point, but it's the best thing we've got. Our eyes decieve us and obviously we can't watch every game of every team. Even if they overstate how good Theriot is a little, he's at least average.

SW, I'd hate to get Kazmir. First off, the Rays management is crazy smart and I don't want Hendry trading with them. Secondly, he's so similiar to Rich Harden. Do we really need another injury risk, high strikeout pitcher with control and stamina issues?

If we were going to go after a starter, I want Cliff Lee. He'd be much cheaper than Halladay and is just a level below him. It would be like getting Harden last year after the Brewers got Sabbathia.

[cold5]

GYBE, they're actually coming up with this video system they're looking to put in stadiums that is supposed to reveal true fielding ability of players. I don't know the name of it but I read about in the New York Times. Hendry tells sun-times he's ready to make upgrades. SW where did you get Kazmir? I think Rays are only trading him if they get Lee.

[cold5]

Apparently Steve Stone says Tigers are interested in Bradley. I don't see how we could get a deal with them done however. David Kaplan confirming this. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-k ... adley.html What do they have that we want and who would replace Bradley in RF?
P.S. Reid Brignac pulled from game in Tampa. What's happening with that?

[Posey H8er]

I don't know who we would want from Detroit, but if they're willing to give up a good prospect or two (I doubt they do) then do it. Also why would Detroit want him?, because he has been really below average this year. But getting rid of Bradley would clear up money to get someone else.

[Posey H8er]

Ah, Kap seems to think we would go after Dunn if we got rid of Bradley. Probably just pure speculation on his part.

[SportsWorld]

Al from Bleed Cubbie Blue says his source told him the Bradley to Detroit talk has legs and that the Cubs could be after Roy Halladay or Dan Haren. The Cubs cannot afford Halladay nor do they have the prospects to get him. Touche for Haren.

[cold5]

Al from Bleed Cubbie Blue says his source told him the Bradley to Detroit talk has legs and that the Cubs could be after Roy Halladay or Dan Haren. The Cubs cannot afford Halladay nor do they have the prospects to get him. Touche for Haren.

Why are you complaining about us going after Roy or Dan? Either one of those guys would help tremendously if we made it to the playoffs and Soriano and Bradley continue to start swinging the bats. We would have to give up Vitters and Samardzija probably but our farm system already sucks enough. Why does money matter, either?
We could send Wells or Harden and that might let us get away with not sending Vitters.

[SportsWorld]

I'm not complaining, I'm just being realistic. The Cubs aren't getting Haren or Halladay.

[Posey H8er]

http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog ... st=4355794

The Cubs have had conversations with the Pirates about left-hander John Grabow, one of the best left-handed set-up men in the league. A bigger trade with Pittsburgh, for a starter like Zach Duke or Tom Gorzelanny, may be the right avenue to follow with the loss of Lilly.

Other starting pitchers available right now, according to league sources, are Cleveland's Carl Pavano and two Arizona pitchers, left-hander Doug Davis and former Cubs No. 1 draft pick, right-hander Jon Garland.

Some of these names make me sick.

[SportsWorld]

Doug Davis is the only appealing name on that list.

[ChronicKerr]

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/7/2 ... ?ref=yahoo

Milton on the move? Possible Haren, Halladay, Magglio, Dunn acquisitions? Doubtful, but hey, this article put me in an optimistic mood nonetheless.

[SportsWorld]

Yeah there's no way we're getting any of those. Doug Davis and Zach Duke sound more realistic. Nice to dream though.

[DanTown8587]

Zach Duke really scares me. He is having a good year, but its misleading. He has the same SO rate, walk rate, home run and hit rate as he has had during his years of +5 ERA. BUT, this year hitters are hitting .285 on balls hit in play (vs career .325) and opponents are hitting .266 (.300 for career). I am sorry, he is having a lucky year in terms of that and I don't want him here.

[The Sheik]

Ill take a crack at this.

I would like to see us acquire Mark Teahen or a left handed bat that can play 1st occasionally and option Hoffpauir to AAA. He has been a big disappointment and I rather have Fox be the big bat off the bench.

I really dont see the point of acquiring a lefty for the pen. Marshall has done fairly well and aside from Sherril we cant acquire anyone that we can be sure will be as good or better than Sean. I cant even imagine what ridic asking price Mcfail will have.

DFA Aaron Miles. He isnt better than Fontenot, Scales, Freel, Baker or Blanco.

Send Shark back to AAA. We are wasting time having him up here. He is a top prospect. Keep him in the minors till he figures it out and for christ sake firgure out what you want from him. If he is a starter send him down to stretch, working on his command and breaking balls. If he is a reliever send him down to work on control and another pitch. Shark needs to stay in the minors till he starts dominating it. I rather have Ascaino giving up runs than him.

Lastly we have nothing to lose this season. Just ride it out with what has gotten you back into the hunt. Which is waiting for Sori and Bradley to turn around and allowing our farm to help us out when it can.

I dont want to give up anymore of our farm for rentals. If Hendry can land a Harden type deal...for trash prospects then I am for it. Otherwise no more of this Gregg for Ceda, 1 yr of Juan Pierre type deals.

[GYBE]

Send Shark back to AAA. We are wasting time having him up here. He is a top prospect. Keep him in the minors till he figures it out and for christ sake firgure out what you want from him. If he is a starter send him down to stretch, working on his command and breaking balls. If he is a reliever send him down to work on control and another pitch. Shark needs to stay in the minors till he starts dominating it. I rather have Ascaino giving up runs than him.

Lastly we have nothing to lose this season. Just ride it out with what has gotten you back into the hunt. Which is waiting for Sori and Bradley to turn around and allowing our farm to help us out when it can.

I dont want to give up anymore of our farm for rentals. If Hendry can land a Harden type deal...for trash prospects then I am for it. Otherwise no more of this Gregg for Ceda, 1 yr of Juan Pierre type deals.

I completely agree with all these points. Well said Sheik.

[canes55455]

i think we should be after hitters over pitchers because we have a lot of good pitching prospects i n the farm led by 2008 1st round pick Andrew Cashner

[cold5]

This may be complete speculation but according to NSBB apparently it's been reported that Fukudome and Stevens will be traded for Adam Dunn. Dunn isn't in the Nats lineup, so it's possible. Bradley would play CF where he has played before and actually has the highest fielding percentage of any of the OF positions. That would be no pretty outfield defensively but would get a lot of OF Assists. But considering people wanted Hoffpauir or Fox starting in the OF it couldn't be much worse. On another speculation type post apparently another team is in the hunt for Sanchez and we have been "in constant contact" with the Pirates. Lineup based on these speculation type trades.
1. Sanchez 2B
2. Theriot SS
3. Lee 1b
4. Ramirez 3B
5. Dunn RF
6. Soriano LF
7. Bradley CF
8. HIll C

[Posey H8er]

With Soto back that lineup would be STACKED. And although I root for Kosuke you have to do that deal. Dunn has a career OPS over .900.

[cold5]

Oh ****. Looks like we're going to have to put up with Fonteno and Baker at 2B for rest of season . . . . . Sanchez traded to Giants. Hopefully we can somehow trade for Scutaro.