Brian Roberts?

[cold5]

Derosa needs to start. He is a major veteran upgrade, both offensively and defensively. Theriot gets worn out easily, which really showed in September. New Cubs lineup:
1. Pie
2. Roberts
3. Lee
4. Ramirez
5. Soriano
6. Fukudome
7. Derosa
8. Soto
9. Pitcher (hopefully Bedard will bat at this spot)

[Ruben Douglas]

Either get the trade done or put it to rest. I'm sick of this rumor garbage. There is no reason what-so-ever to believe any trade rumor about Brian Roberts. It seems as though McPhail is more concerned about these rumors than the trades themselves.

[Posey H8er]

I think McPhail wants to deal Bedard first, then turn to Roberts.

[SportsWorld]

Either get the trade done or put it to rest. I'm sick of this rumor garbage. There is no reason what-so-ever to believe any trade rumor about Brian Roberts. It seems as though McPhail is more concerned about these rumors than the trades themselves.

The guys at Oriole Hangout said maybe the papers were at the league office yesterday but they were waiting a day because they wanted to celebrate Goose Gossage's hall of fame bid. I don't believe that load of trash.

[#1TKfan]

update: bruce levine reports at least 2 other teams are in the mix for roberts.

that is all.

[SportsWorld]

Orioles Hangout changed their story this morning.
http://orioleshangout.com/article.asp?ID=1299

Yesterday we were told by two normally reliable source that the trade of Brian Roberts to the Chicago Cubs was done. After asking two different sources from two different circles of baseball, we were told by both that this was 100 percent correct and done. The Orioles quickly came out and denied the report with Orioles officials calling and e-mailing the Hangout to deny the reports and to say the report was "very inaccurate."

Even after this denial, both sources continued to say their report was accurate, but this morning we hear rumblings that the Orioles and Cubs have pulled that offer off the table and are attempting to add more pieces to the overall trade.

This morning we were told that a contact close to the Mariners front office has said the Mariners have an offer on the table for Bedard that includes outfielder Adam Jones, reliever George Sherrill, and right-handed pitching prospect Christopher Tillman. Although Jones would be the center point of the trade, Tillman is considered a guy with significant upside and Sherrill would help in the pen now.

I realize a lot of people are on an emotional roller coaster this off season with all the rumors, but what's clear is that MacPhail is working hard on a lot of fronts and although a lot of information is getting leaked from various sources, it's apparent that MacPhail is keeping things as close hold as possible while working these deals.

At least it's been an interesting ride so far!

Stay tuned, more information on the way soon.

[hermes]

update: bruce levine reports at least 2 other teams are in the mix for roberts.

that is all.

do we know who the other teams are

[Howling Mad]

Wow I'm enjoying this more than the Kobe-trade-saga.

I actually like this trade and would be thrilled if Roberts were playing the same holy ground that Sandberg used to man.

I'm so hungry for more Roberts news.

C'mon Jimbo, c'mon MacPhail , make something happen.

[Howling Mad]

Anybody else worried about Roberts and his previous steroids use?

The papers seem to make a jab at it whenever the story is mentioned in current news.

From 04 to 05 is the likely scenerio of him taking steroids. He spiked to 18 HR in the season, having only 4 in the previous year, and only 10 in the following year. Last year he hit 12 HR.

If he hadn't admitted to taking steroids I would still call out the same time because its the only year his slugging % was over .500, @ .515

He never hit over .450 before or after that.

During that same time he also claims to have started to wear special contacts. Nike's MaxSight... er something like that.




other plays have worn them and have had very successful results like Roberts.

Hmmm....

His one year I think he did steroids isn't a miraculous change in numbers.

Not Brady Anderson crazy. He had one yar of 50 HR and never hit 40, never hit 30, and never even hit 25 HR before, after or ever again, etc. In his 14 years of playing in the MLB he had two three season over 20 (50, 24, 21).

[#1TKfan]

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do we know who the other teams are

sorry, man. they didnt say.

[SportsWorld]

Doesn't Scott Podsednik wear those red eye things also?

[Howling Mad]

A bunch of players do, several in other sports.

Roger Fedrererer promoted/wore them also.


I think that, combined with the 'roids, gave him confidence. Ultimately I think he will be the same player he has been with single digit homeruns.

[Ruben Douglas]

I think it's time to dump the Roberts talk. McPhail is asking for Hill or Marmol now and it's not worth it to include either of those guys. Cubs need to take these prospects and get a RHSP that could be slotted as tthe #2 or 3 starter. I'd like to see what it would take to get Figgins from the Angels as well...it might be better going after him than Roberts. We'll see how this plays out.

[Posey H8er]

I think it's time to dump the Roberts talk. McPhail is asking for Hill or Marmol now and it's not worth it to include either of those guys. Cubs need to take these prospects and get a RHSP that could be slotted as tthe #2 or 3 starter. I'd like to see what it would take to get Figgins from the Angels as well...it might be better going after him than Roberts. We'll see how this plays out.

Figgins and Roberts' numbers are close in almost every single category. If it would be easier to get Figgins in a deal, then sure, go for it. Plus he doesn't have this yucky lingering steroid talk around him.

But I agree that we need a solid #2/3 starter. I do not have faith in our rotation right now going into the season. That should be our first priority.

[GYBE]

I don't know Posey, last season we were 4th in the majors in ERA.

18th in runs scored.

I'm still not confident in this offense. Yeah, The Dome will help. But we don't know what Pie is ready to give us, Soto is still largely unknown and our Theriot just isn't very good. Our bottom of the order is really weak and untested.

BTW, I realize I'm the only one here who likes him, but I like Ronnie Cedeno. I think he'll be a much better player than Theriot next season and I'd like to keep him. He's several years younger and hit WAY better in the minors. In the majors during September he was raking. He just needs to grow up, but that's gotta happen at some point right?

[SportsWorld]

The Angels have said in the past that if the Cubs want Figgins they will have to give up Aramis to get him which is totally unreasonable.

[Posey H8er]

I think our true offense showed up in September. And now we will have hopefully a fluke-less Soto full time and now Fukudome.
But our offense does need some kind of upgrade like you mentioned.

Ronny has a lot of potential to be good, and I think he can be at least on the level of Theriot this past season. This is why Cubs fans should like him.
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/pl ... i?pid=2557
vs
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/pl ... ?pid=14403

1. Zambrano- Mr. Inconsistent. What will you get from him?
2. Lilly- Our best pitcher last year, but his numbers might come down in his NL sophomore season.
3. Hill- I like him, I expect to see more progress.
4. Marquis- Meh, keep the ERA under 4.25
5. ???

[ChronicKerr]

so why aren't we interested in bedard?

[Posey H8er]

We do not have enough to get him. Actually, if we were to get him, we would have to give up players like Pie, Hill, and Marmol. They seem untouchable right now according to Hendry.

[Ruben Douglas]

The Angels have said in the past that if the Cubs want Figgins they will have to give up Aramis to get him which is totally unreasonable.

Show me the quote. They have never said that. That was just something someone floated out there.