Your new Manager, Mike Quade!

Howling Mad · Post #1 » by **Howling Mad** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:17 pm

Meh,

SW heard right, not sure about the details on bench coach, but sounds like Ryno, with a short leash on Quade. Most of the staff is expected to stay.

SportsWorld · Post #2 » by **SportsWorld** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:29 pm

Will Carroll broke it on Thursday. Very meh about this move. Quade did a nice job last season in meaningless games but I don't trust him over a full season. Can't see the Cubs winning anything with him under the helm.

SportsWorld · Post #3 » by **SportsWorld** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:40 pm

If Ryne Sandberg is named bench coach, that was an organizational decision and not Quade's decision. No way Quade puts Sandberg on his staff. A bad start and everyone will be calling for Sandberg.

Fukudome1 · Post #4 » by **Fukudome1** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:43 pm

if ryno is the bench coach that is so much bs, pretty much not giving quade a chance from the start.

ps quads is who i wanted.

cold5 · Post #5 » by **cold5** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:04 pm

I'm not sure why everyone hates this move. Ryno seems to be egocentric and seems to have a real obsession with small ball that doesn't fit this team. Quade knows the team and seems to get along with them and also knows a lot of the young players in the system. Bobby Valentine might have been good and Girardi would have been good if he decided to come but outside of that I don't have a problem with Quade.

mattbulls · Post #6 » by **mattbulls** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:58 am

Well, I guess we'll see if the end of the season was a fluke or something that will be built on.

Howling Mad · Post #7 » by **Howling Mad** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:36 am

Ryno seems like the prince that just inherits the throne, I get it. He was a darling with the fans and media as a player and seems like the obvious choice. Of course, he did put in his time, but I guess you could look at that as the organization giving him the opportunity. Hence, he should be thankful for that.

I'll share my personal feelings about him as our skipper.

I'd like to see it. I don't think now is the time though. Huh?!? ya, confusing I know, which is exactly how Ricketts probably felt about it. As mentioned, Sandberg loves small ball, he's an old school manager, and he expects integrity and accountability.

This team would eat him up.

The crew we have now needs almost a full turnover to the new regime of players in order for Ryno to succeed. He won't get guys like Soriano and Ramirez to listen to his hard nosed style. Quade has the experience, the relationships built, and has been on the sidelines..he's a safe bet with minimal exit strategy.

If Quade succeeds, it can be said that his end of the year performance made it obvious. If he doesn't the blame goes to a whole new turnover. Either way I think a whole new turnover, with manger, and lead players is what we need. Get rid of guys like Soriano and Ramirez who lead bad examples and continue to get away with it. Easier said then done, but the manger is a start.

Now I'd have to mention the rumblings everywhere that Ryno is the bench coach. I see where this is going as well. He can slide over if Quade stumbles. If this is true and comes to fruition then the backup plan is already built in. Quade would have a short leash and Sandberg would be happy with the opportunity closer to his fingertips and he would stay in Chicago, which he prefers. Now, I haven't seen confirmation that he will indeed be bench coach, in fact, everything I read today says he'll be looking to manage elsewhere. Now I'm not so sure how much he means that, but the desire to stay in Chicago is written on his forehead, and I think the interviews, quotes, etc from today were reactionary to the Quade hiring.

So, if we can't turn over what we have to, lets start where we can, use caution and be patient with the development. This would give Sandberg room to grow, and would allow time for Hendry to rid our lineup of the lack of integrity and accountability with certain players. But of course, Chicago doesn't have the patience, and if Ricketts wants to increase profits, like the wonderful business man he is, he'll be looking to win and fill the seats. Sandberg, wrong place, wrong time. Let's hope he isn't the manager version of Maddux.

Howling Mad · Post #8 » by **Howling Mad** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:59 pm

Cubs turn their backs on Sandberg

Hall of Famer did more than was asked and deserved shot at managing club

Phil Rogers wrote:Jim Hendry dropped a line in the water the day in the fall of 2006 when he suggested Ryne Sandberg learn how to be a baseball manager by going back to the minor leagues, a trip Hall of Fame players almost never make. He seemed happy Sandberg took him up on the offer, agreeing to manage low-A Peoria, four rungs away from where he wanted to be, at Wrigley Field.

It's the last part that sometimes gets lost with Sandberg. It would make sense to hire Mike Quade, not Sandberg, if Sandberg's teams had struggled. But in the last two years he took a Double-A team to the league championship and produced the most victories in a 16-team Triple-A league.

That's a shame. Baseball would be a lot better off if guys like Carlton Fisk, Dave Winfield, Paul Molitor and Greg Maddux would get their hands dirty again after the end of their careers. Yes, Maddux is a special assistant to Hendry, but you don't see him signing up for a full-time job, do you?

Phil Rogers argues the points of winning and paying his due. I pretty much agree.

PJ Brown · Post #9 » by **PJ Brown** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:45 pm

This is a damned if you do or don't scenario. By going with Quade, you "screw" Ryno, who did what it took to earn the job. If you go with Ryno, you "screw" Quade, who did what it took to earn the job. I can't blame them for choosing either path.

SportsWorld · Post #10 » by **SportsWorld** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:25 pm

Quade probably would have gotten a job somewhere else based on how the Cubs finished last season anyways. Can't say the same for Ryno. I don't think we really screwed Quade.

karch34 · Post #11 » by **karch34** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:34 am

I agree with Rogers in that Sandberg did what was asked and got results. I thought Quade had a pretty successful run in his time in the minors as well. No doubt Sandberg is the more exciting choice.

Of course the exciting choices in the past were Don Baylor, Dusty Baker, and Lou Pinella and those didn't work out long term, despite early success with the latter two. Maybe this is the right choice and I hope we're actually making sound baseball decisions (such as a reasonable contract to a player like Marlon Byrd), rather than high profile decisions (Big contracts to Soriano, Bradley, Fukudome). I don't know.