Opening Day Lineup Announced

Cletus · Post #1 » by **Cletus** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:25 pm

1. Ryan Theriot, SS
2. Alfonso, Soriano, LF
3. Derrek Lee, 1B
4. Aramis Ramirez, 3B
5. Kosuke Fukudome, RF
6. Mark DeRosa, 2B
7. Geovany Soto, C
8. Felix Pie, CF
9. Carlos Zambrano, P
5-Man Rotation: Z, Lilly, Dempster, Hill and Marquis
Closer: Wood
Lieber will be used in early game situations if the starter isn't doing well.

more at links
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3309506
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=159396

Posey H8er · Post #2 » by **Posey H8er** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:34 pm

I would like to make a case for Lieber in the starting rotation... Maybe he had too many hits given up, I don't know.

CHICAGO CUBS INDIVIDUAL PITCHING
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PLAYER        W  L  S  ERA   G GS CG SHO    IP   H   R  ER
------        -  -  -  ---   - -- -- ---    --   -   -  --

G Jones       0  0  0  0.00  2  0  0   0   2.0   2   0   0
C Pignatiell  0  0  0  0.00  6  0  0   0   5.1   2   0   0
B Petrick     0  0  0  0.00  1  0  0   0   0.1   0   0   0
M Wuertz      0  0  0  0.00  6  0  0   0   6.2   5   0   0
R Roquet      0  0  0  0.00  1  0  0   0   0.2   0   0   0
C Zambrano    1  0  0  0.60  4  4  0   0  15.0   8   2   1

J Lieber      2  0  0  1.80  4  3  0   0  15.0  14   3   3

J Mateo       0  0  0  1.80  4  0  0   0   5.0   2   1   1
J Marquis     0  1  0  1.93  4  4  0   0  14.0  14   3   3
C Marmol      1  0  1  2.35  7  0  0   0   7.2   7   2   2
S Marshall    0  0  0  3.24  3  1  0   0   8.1   8   4   3
K Wood        0  0  1  3.86  7  0  0   0   7.0   6   3   3

R Dempster    2  1  0  4.50  5  5  0   0  16.0  11   9   8

S Eyre        0  1  0  4.76  6  0  0   0   5.2   7   5   3
S Gallagher   0  0  0  5.69  4  0  0   0   6.1   5   4   4
T Lahey       0  1  0  5.87  8  0  0   0   7.2   7   5   5
J Ascanio     0  1  2  6.00  9  0  0   0   9.0  10   6   6
J Samardzija  1  0  0  6.00  2  0  0   0   3.0   4   2   2
T Lilly       0  0  0  6.00  3  3  0   0   9.0  10   6   6
R Hill        0  1  0  6.35  4  2  0   0  11.1  14   8   8
K Hart        1  1  0  6.76  9  0  0   0   7.2   6   6   6
L Walrond     1  1  0  8.98  6  0  0   0   5.0   6   5   5
E Campusano   0  0  0  9.00  4  0  0   0   3.0   3   4   3
S Takatsu     0  1  0  9.64  5  0  0   0   4.2   5   5   5
B Howry       0  1  0  9.94  7  0  0   0   6.1  13   7   7
N Cotts       0  2  0 10.29  6  0  0   0   7.0   8   8   8
C Fox         0  0  0 18.00  1  0  0   0   1.0   3   2   2
J Ceda        0  1  0 18.00  3  0  0   0   2.0   5   4   4
E Caridad     0  0  0 26.87  1  0  0   0   0.2   3   2   2

Whatever, I like the depth we have though.

Posey H8er · Post #3 » by **Posey H8er** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:43 pm

I'll list the for sure locks on this roster.

C. Zambrano
T. Lilly
R. Hill
R. Dempster
J. Lieber
J. Marquis

Soriano
Pie
Fukudome

Ramirez
Theriot
Derosa
Lee
Soto
H. Blanco

K. Wood
C. M

#1TKfan · Post #4 » by **#1TKfan** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:20 pm

dempster before hill?! i dont see that lasting very long.

nor do i see marquis in the lineup before the season starts.

Towel Manager · Post #5 » by **Towel Manager** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:36 pm

Cletus wrote:1. Ryan Theriot, SS
2. Alfonso, Soriano, LF
3. Derrek Lee, 1B
4. Aramis Ramirez, 3B
5. Kosuke Fukudome, RF
6. Mark DeRosa, 2B
7. Geovany Soto, C
8. Felix Pie, CF
9. Carlos Zambrano, P
5-Man Rotation: Z, Lilly, Dempster, Hill and Marquis
Closer: Wood
Lieber will be used in early game situations if the starter isn't doing well.

more at links
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3309506
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=159396

fukudome should be batting 2nd and soriano 5th. Theriot leading off scares me, but we'll see what happens. I think Lieber should be in the starting rotation as well. Put Dempster as long relief.

treyZz · Post #6 » by **treyZz** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:37 pm

Theriot is the last person on this team who needs more at bats.

Cedeno for SS imo.

Post #7 » by **GYBE** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:50 pm

treyZz wrote:Cedeno for SS imo.

Yes.

It's not as bad as it could be. If we switched Fukudome/Soriano and got a real leadoff hitter, it would be a really dangerous lineup.

SportsWorld · Post #8 » by **SportsWorld** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:15 am

I hate how Marquis gets the 5th spot over Lieber. Lieber has impressed me this Spring Training and Marquis has only caused problems. Besides that, I am okay with our lineup. I don't mind Kerry closing. As long as Howry is not the closer I am happy.

treyZz · Post #9 » by **treyZz** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:41 am

Marquis is great in April during the cold weather.

Let him pitch through April and when he starts sucking the big one which is inevitable send his as$ to the pen imo.

Posey H8er · Post #10 » by **Posey H8er** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:00 am

Towel Manager wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

fukudome should be batting 2nd and soriano 5th. Theriot leading off scares me, but we'll see what happens. I think Lieber should be in the starting rotation as well. Put Dempster as long relief.

treyZz wrote:Theriot is the last person on this team who needs more at bats.

Cedeno for SS imo.

Aside from that stupid graphic, it seems to me that Lou gave Dempster a spot in the rotation in the beginning. I thought there was supposed to be competition between the 3 (Dempster/Marquis/Lieber). From their ST numbers, I would give the spots to Lieber and Marquis.

treyZz · Post #11 » by **treyZz** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:34 am

Dempster is a gimp and I cannot wait for his train wreck of a season.

The Sheik · Post #12 » by **The Sheik** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:56 am

Whos in Lahey, Cotts, Marshall, Pignatiello?

mattbulls · Post #13 » by **mattbulls** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:49 am

#1TKfan wrote:dempster before hill?! i dont see that lasting very long.

nor do i see marquis in the lineup before the season starts.

It's to split the lefties.

#1TKfan · Post #14 » by **#1TKfan** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:19 pm

mattbulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It's to split the lefties.

very good. we will see how it plays out.

Posey H8er · Post #15 » by **Posey H8er** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:16 pm

The Sheik wrote:Whos in Lahey, Cotts, Marshall, Pignatiello?

Lou has said that he may carry 12 pitchers, so two of them may make the roster.

Cotts was already sent to AAA and I am not sure about Lahey's status. With Eyre out with an injury, we will see at least one of the two of Marshall and Pignatiello. The dilemma then is do you keep Marshall at AAA so he can continue to start or do you put him in the bullpen as your lone lefty reliever?

IlliniNRG · Post #16 » by **IlliniNRG** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:43 pm

#1TKfan wrote:dempster before hill?! i dont see that lasting very long.

nor do i see marquis in the lineup before the season starts.

I'm sure dempster's just between hill and lilly so it's not two lefties in a row.

This lineup oughtta be vastly different at the end of the year. hopefully hendry comes up with a SS upgrade midseason and Pie hits better than he did last year. As it is now, I think Theriot should hit 7th or 8th, and DeRosa should lead off. At least at the beginning of the season, I could see having Soriano 2nd instead of Fukudome. Fuku's had a crummy spring, and is an unknown commodity.

Also, count me among those not thrilled with Cedeno. How does anyone think this guy has value? He had a great chance in '06, and he showed that he can't hit his way out of a paper bag. Do you want a guy with a .271 OBP in your lineup? What's his ceiling? Neifi Perez?