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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#821 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:28 pm

Us arguing about the minute details of what's considered a 'Brandon Miller level player on a rookie contract' is kind of beside the point and silly. It's completely whatever. The hypothetical question I'm asking is, would anyone ever consider trading Brandon Miller for a win now veteran star to put next to Lamelo?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#822 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:30 pm

And I don't think there's any way you get bam without including Miller in a deal. I think Miami would hang up the phone otherwise.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#823 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:35 pm

fatlever wrote:Us arguing about the minute details of what's considered a 'Brandon Miller level player on a rookie contract' is kind of beside the point and silly. It's completely whatever. The hypothetical question I'm asking is, would anyone ever consider trading Brandon Miller for a win now veteran star to put next to Lamelo?


No because having two good players doesn't win in the NBA.
The point of making a trade is to pair a 3rd good player with a young Miller and Melo.

Brandon Miller himself is going to be a top 30-50 player very soon, maybe in the next few months. Trading him for an older top 25-35 player would be terrible trade.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#824 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:39 pm

fatlever wrote:And I don't think there's any way you get bam without including Miller in a deal. I think Miami would hang up the phone otherwise.


So if you are OKC you think you have to give up Chet to get Bam?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#825 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:56 pm

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fatlever wrote:And I don't think there's any way you get bam without including Miller in a deal. I think Miami would hang up the phone otherwise.


So if you are OKC you think you have to give up Chet to get Bam?

okc is different. they have way more assets to trade - j williams, tons of picks, topic, cason etc,,,. we have melo, miller and future firsts. none of our other stuff moves a needle.

And in case it wasn't clear the first 3 times I said it, I am not advocating trading Brandon Miller. i do not think the front office is entertaining trading Brandon Miller, Since I do not believe they are in a hurry to win. Simply asking a question of whether or not anyone would consider trading Brandon Miller to get lamelo a win now veteran star - And if so what are the players you would move Miller to get in return?

If your answer is none, I would never trade Miller in 1000 years for anyone. fine. No need to make this discussion something that it's not.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#826 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:58 pm

For the record I don't think anyone on this roster should be untouchable in a trade. That includes both Miller and melo.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#827 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:08 pm

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fatlever wrote:And I don't think there's any way you get bam without including Miller in a deal. I think Miami would hang up the phone otherwise.


So if you are OKC you think you have to give up Chet to get Bam?

okc is different. they have way more assets to trade - j williams, tons of picks, topic, cason etc,,,. we have melo, miller and future firsts. none of our other stuff moves a needle.

And in case it wasn't clear the first 3 times I said it, I am not advocating trading Brandon Miller. i do not think the front office is entertaining trading Brandon Miller, Since I do not believe they are in a hurry to win. Simply asking a question of whether or not anyone would consider trading Brandon Miller to get lamelo a win now veteran star - And if so what are the players you would move Miller to get in return?

If your answer is none, I would never trade Miller in 1000 years for anyone. fine. No need to make this discussion something that it's not.


I really don't think Chet is any different than Brandon in terms of value. Even if OKC had zero picks they simply aren't making that move Chet for Bam.

I already said I would consider trading Brandon for a top 5 player Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Embiid, SGA yes. Which Bam is not close to.

More examples: Cavs wouldn't trade Mobley for KD, Raptors wouldn't trade Barnes for KD.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#828 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:37 pm

If we trading Miller it better be for a serious piece like a Giannis or Embiid. Those are the only players I can see contending with Melo as a sidekick. Anybody else is a waste of time.

No way I trade Miller for Bam.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#829 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:45 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:If we trading Miller it better be for a serious piece like a Giannis or Embiid. Those are the only players I can see contending with Melo as a sidekick. Anybody else is a waste of time.

No way I trade Miller for Bam.


Miami will make their demands, but I just don't see any other team dangling a centerpiece even close to as valuable as Miller.

All we need to do is bid over the top bid, and we have plenty of trade capital to do that without surrendering a core piece.

There are only so many bidders with full cupboards. And not every team needs a center upgrade as their top priority.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#830 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:22 am

Richards + Micic + 2025 Pels 2nd + 2027 Blazers 2nd for Portis + Delon Wright.

LaMelo
Green
Miller
Miles
Mark

Mann
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Portis
Diabaté
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#831 » by HornetJail » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:10 am

The bucks are not doing that
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#832 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:18 pm

HornetJail wrote:The bucks are not doing that


I think if they're scouting deems Richards a potential starting center, they do it.

Or they could try to acquire Kessler. Ainge won't like their empty cupboard, nor accept Portis as the main piece.

Price and availability of rim protectors on cheap contracts affect the market for Richards. It's slim pickings for his archetype on his contract which fits the budget of a 2nd apron team.

Bucks sit 22 million over the tax and Lopez is checking out the door soon. He couldn't contain a 2-way guy last night.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#833 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:24 pm

HornetJail wrote:The bucks are not doing that


Also, this kind of response cheapens the discourse of trade talks that many of us enjoy.

You're capable of counter proposals. You do it all day long in the common trade forum. So why just shoot down my opening bid here with like some absolutist when you're proven not to be one?

It's cheap and you can do better.

I hate Richards just as much as you do.

We seem to be on the right page to start.

So, if Portis feels like an appropriate target from our end as a stretch big who can complement Mark & Diabeté while backing PF thus giving Salaun the full 2 years he needs in GL, what do you think the Bucks would demand for Portis from us?

We have plenty of trade capital for you to select from, I believe.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#834 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:01 pm

Any interest?

The Wizards hope Brogdon will provide a young team with a veteran backcourt presence. Ideally, the combo guard will prove his healthy and will become a trade asset for Washington on an expiring $22.5 million contract.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#835 » by HornetJail » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:23 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
HornetJail wrote:The bucks are not doing that


Also, this kind of response cheapens the discourse of trade talks that many of us enjoy.

You're capable of counter proposals. You do it all day long in the common trade forum. So why just shoot down my opening bid here with like some absolutist when you're proven not to be one?

It's cheap and you can do better.

I hate Richards just as much as you do.

We seem to be on the right page to start.

So, if Portis feels like an appropriate target from our end as a stretch big who can complement Mark & Diabeté while backing PF thus giving Salaun the full 2 years he needs in GL, what do you think the Bucks would demand for Portis from us?

We have plenty of trade capital for you to select from, I believe.

boi you posted a trade where the Bucks trade two very quality rotation players for two players who are currently worse than dudes that are chilling in free agency right now. Fix your trade proposals then we can talk about "cheapening discourse" or whatever
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#836 » by JMAC3 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:59 pm

Cam Whitmore is still one of my top targets. He would give us another scorer that can mix in with Miller, Martin and Green on the wing.

He has been terrible this year and is out of the rotation so might not be as expensive as some think.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#837 » by yosemiteben » Sun Nov 17, 2024 4:49 pm

Trade speculation is quickly becoming my least favorite basketball activity. We have a new staff, lots of guys in new roles, and lots of young players. We also are clearly incentivized to wait until next year to move draft assets for immediate improvement.

I'll check in on trade chatter in a couple months, not a daily item of interest to me.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#838 » by Rich4114 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:27 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Cam Whitmore is still one of my top targets. He would give us another scorer that can mix in with Miller, Martin and Green on the wing.

He has been terrible this year and is out of the rotation so might not be as expensive as some think.


The exact opposite type of player this roster is in need of. I get he could be cheap and offer some upside, but I think he's out of the rotation for a reason. I'd trade him for Saloon though because at least Whitmore has skills that could be one day put to use.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#839 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:49 pm

HornetJail wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
HornetJail wrote:The bucks are not doing that


Also, this kind of response cheapens the discourse of trade talks that many of us enjoy.

You're capable of counter proposals. You do it all day long in the common trade forum. So why just shoot down my opening bid here with like some absolutist when you're proven not to be one?

It's cheap and you can do better.

I hate Richards just as much as you do.

We seem to be on the right page to start.

So, if Portis feels like an appropriate target from our end as a stretch big who can complement Mark & Diabeté while backing PF thus giving Salaun the full 2 years he needs in GL, what do you think the Bucks would demand for Portis from us?

We have plenty of trade capital for you to select from, I believe.

boi you posted a trade where the Bucks trade two very quality rotation players for two players who are currently worse than dudes that are chilling in free agency right now. Fix your trade proposals then we can talk about "cheapening discourse" or whatever


Won't respond to you any further. Enjoy punching down.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#840 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:31 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Cam Whitmore is still one of my top targets. He would give us another scorer that can mix in with Miller, Martin and Green on the wing.

He has been terrible this year and is out of the rotation so might not be as expensive as some think.

What are we offering?

I like Whitmore, but feels like he will be used as a piece for Houston down the line for a major trade.

We would probably have to add a future 1st to any deal for Whitmore.

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