NBA Draft Thread 2023

[HeatGuyInChicago]

If we can trade our 1st round pick to get Indiana's 29th and 32nd picks and select two of Tristan Vukcevic , Trayce Jackson-Davis, Joe Walsh, or another long 3&D wing, that would be an outstanding draft. Pick up a few more undrafted players after the draft to replace Vincent and Strus. The way I see it, the Heat don't over spend on the luxury tax unless they have studs for their top 3 salaries. I can see Herro and Lowry being traded this offseason.

[twix2500]

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[HeatingUp3]

So guys who is the best scorers in our range? I want to watch vids

[MettaWorldPanda]

12 days away from the draft and it seems the organization has very little interest in any prospects. Nick Smith Jr, Jordan Walsh, and Grant Nelson(Took his name out of draft last week) are the only known prospects we have had contacts with. Smith Jr is projected to go within the top 15 and Walsh is considered a late second round pick. I know the Heat brass is busy right now but under normal draft circumstances they would have interviewed 20 players by now. My bet is this pick is getting traded. We made a pick last year and Riley likes to boast about being an every other year drafting team. They probably view Jovic as this year's incoming pick after his year of seasoning. 18th pick could be getting packaged for a veteran.

[DayofMourning]

If we can trade our 1st round pick to get Indiana's 29th and 32nd picks and select two of Tristan Vukcevic , Trayce Jackson-Davis, Joe Walsh, or another long 3&D wing, that would be an outstanding draft. Pick up a few more undrafted players after the draft to replace Vincent and Strus. The way I see it, the Heat don't over spend on the luxury tax unless they have studs for their top 3 salaries. I can see Herro and Lowry being traded this offseason.

Lowry, Herro and every pick weve ever owned going out the door. This offensive ineptitude wont be tolerated.

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Both projected early second round prospects. All signs pointing to trading out of the pick.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Keeping a close eye on OKC who hold the 37th and 50th picks in the second round. We could be working out a deal with them that lifts protections on that future pick or even getting it back. Maybe they really like someone at 18. Smith and Prosper both could be there at 37.

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Both projected early second round prospects. All signs pointing to trading out of the pick.

A new salary cap exception has been created for second round picks in the new CBA. The exception permits three or four year deals with small salary bumps over the rookie minimum in the first few seasons to be given to draft picks. This intentionally helps teams with high salaries sign their second round selections to reasonable deals, but it also helps every team use their cap space and other exceptions more effectively. Now, parts of the MLE won’t need to be earmarked for draft picks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonyeast/2023/05/31/how-the-new-nba-collective-bargaining-agreement-impacts-the-indiana-pacers/?sh=4f8e1d1648b4

The new CBA rules have incentivized hitting on your 2nd round picks because teams now don't have to dip into their exception money if they want to sign them to deals. With the new salary cap restrictions, using picks this year, particularly for teams like Miami well over the cap. So I think it's more likely they are buying a 2nd round pick while also using the 18th pick to find someone that might be a more NBA ready prospect.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Both projected early second round prospects. All signs pointing to trading out of the pick.

A new salary cap exception has been created for second round picks in the new CBA. The exception permits three or four year deals with small salary bumps over the rookie minimum in the first few seasons to be given to draft picks. This intentionally helps teams with high salaries sign their second round selections to reasonable deals, but it also helps every team use their cap space and other exceptions more effectively. Now, parts of the MLE won’t need to be earmarked for draft picks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonyeast/2023/05/31/how-the-new-nba-collective-bargaining-agreement-impacts-the-indiana-pacers/?sh=4f8e1d1648b4

The new CBA rules have incentivized hitting on your 2nd round picks because teams now don't have to dip into their exception money if they want to sign them to deals. With the new salary cap restrictions, using picks this year, particularly for teams like Miami well over the cap. So I think it's more likely they are buying a 2nd round pick while also using the 18th pick to find someone that might be a more NBA ready prospect.

I don’t think so. To me it seems they don’t want to pay the 1st rd price tag. Buying 2nd round picks cost about 2 million that i don’t envision Arison spending. The value of second rd picks has also gone up recently as you’ve seen them valued as trade commodities. Most of the prospects we are working out are all second rd picks aside from Nick Smith Jr. The new rules fully incentivize the Heat to trade out of the 1st and into the second especially with OKC who we need to lift protections on a pick in order to unlock 3 future picks to trade.

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Both projected early second round prospects. All signs pointing to trading out of the pick.

A new salary cap exception has been created for second round picks in the new CBA. The exception permits three or four year deals with small salary bumps over the rookie minimum in the first few seasons to be given to draft picks. This intentionally helps teams with high salaries sign their second round selections to reasonable deals, but it also helps every team use their cap space and other exceptions more effectively. Now, parts of the MLE won’t need to be earmarked for draft picks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonyeast/2023/05/31/how-the-new-nba-collective-bargaining-agreement-impacts-the-indiana-pacers/?sh=4f8e1d1648b4

The new CBA rules have incentivized hitting on your 2nd round picks because teams now don't have to dip into their exception money if they want to sign them to deals. With the new salary cap restrictions, using picks this year, particularly for teams like Miami well over the cap. So I think it's more likely they are buying a 2nd round pick while also using the 18th pick to find someone that might be a more NBA ready prospect.

I don’t think so. To me it seems they don’t want to pay the 1st rd price tag. Buying 2nd round picks cost about 2 million that i don’t envision Arison spending. The value of second rd picks has also gone up recently as you’ve seen them valued as trade commodities. Most of the prospects we are working out are all second rd picks aside from Nick Smith Jr. The new rules fully incentivize the Heat to trade out of the 1st and into the second especially with OKC who we need to lift protections on a pick in order to unlock 3 future picks to trade.

The cost of the pick is nothing when understanding that it's potentially getting a contributing player on a rookie scale deal for the next 3-4 years. It's an actual cost saving move in that regard.

Also we don't get a report on every player they are working out so I wouldn't go based solely on that. We've seen this team draft guys out of left field (Bam/Herro/Achiuwa) around the range they are in now.

I think their plan is most likely coming out of this draft with 2 players they really like. That will most likely fill in spots that get vacated by potential trades of Herro/Lowry/Dipo/Duncan or just departures via FA like Gabe/Max.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Miami is currently 11.1 million over the line with projected current tax bill of 19 million. The 18th pick adds another 4 million to that and thus increasing the bill even further. The books are in deep chit. It makes sense for them to trade out of the first for some 2nds and future considerations. Getting OKC to give up those 2nds and release pick protections for pick owed in 2025 could be the move.

[MettaWorldPanda]

OMP from Marquette would be a great fit here. 6’8 atheltic PF.

[twix2500]

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Not surprised the Heat have interest in OMax. He fits the protype press stretch four that Spo highly utilizes. He is a bigger version of Martin. Might be some new future plans for Martin, with a new role. I would not be surprised OMax goes in the first round. If Jett Howard falls, it will be interesting to see how the Heat view him. And as I said earlier this year, wouldnt be surprised the Heat are open to bringing Precious back. It was obvious Heat needed a bigger body that can play the same press attacking defense.

Now it is pretty much a sure bet the Heat are looking for a replacement in Oladipo, a high octane combo guard. The Heat in the past were linked to Rozier, now looking at Nick Smith Jr and now Terquavian Smith all 6'4ish combo guards. I am not a big fan of either Smith's but I was told to keep an eye on Nick Smith.

I want a more of a pure classic point guard for this team. But it appears Spo wants the ball more in Bam hands as a passer, in which he has expanded Bam role as a passer in this playoffs. And seeing Jokic (passing big) and Murray (combo guard), has made Spo itch for a combo guard to pair with Bam.

[twix2500]

Another player that fits Heats powerforward prototype.

Toumani Camara
Former Georgia Bulldog recruit power forward, transferred to Dayton
6'8.5, 7'0 wingspan, big ass hands
14 pts, 8.6 rebs, 36% 3pt%, 2.4 3PA

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[RexBoyWonder]

Miami is currently 11.1 million over the line with projected current tax bill of 19 million. The 18th pick adds another 4 million to that and thus increasing the bill even further. The books are in deep chit. It makes sense for them to trade out of the first for some 2nds and future considerations. Getting OKC to give up those 2nds and release pick protections for pick owed in 2025 could be the move.

I get that trading back could help the cap situation, but considering the limited talent we have on the guard rotation, I just can't accept not taking a Kobe Bufkin if he's available at #18.

We did a great job developing second tier talent like Vincent and Strus, A guy like Bufkin could quickly become a legit starting PG for this team, he has a much higher starting point and higher upside.

[IceColdCubano]

Miami is 100% gonna use the #18 pick to trade down to the second round or tie it along with Herro on a blockbuster trade.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Miami is 100% gonna use the #18 pick to trade down to the second round or tie it along with Herro on a blockbuster trade.

I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if a deal is already in place. Based off the scouting of Omax, Walsh, and Smith. All projected early to mid 2nd round prospects. No where near slated for 18. And every year we hear about buying second round picks and every year it never happens. I don’t see this year being any different. My gut tells me we are not making the pick at 18. Riley can smell one last championship and a rookie 18th pick isn’t going to do anything for the very small window we have with Jimmy.

[HeatingUp3]

I have a feeling we gonna trade Herro with that pick.

[CrossOver]

The draft is literally 11 days away. I would be stunned if the HEAT had some significant trade lined up at this point.