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Jaylen Brown - Has he changed your mind?

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After seeing Jaylen...

He was my original choice at #3. and still would
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25%
He was my original choice at #3, but I would now take someone else
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1%
Not my choice, and still NOT HAPPY
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13%
Not my choice, still not, but not unhappy about it
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22%
Not my choice, but he would be now
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9%
Not my choice, but I am starting to be convinced it was the right pick
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30%
 
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Post#201 » by ermocrate » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:23 am

Had finally the chance to see him play a complete game, the guy has something special. Has moves that beak opponents ankles, is bolt fast in direction changes and turnarounds, he is great on D. On the other hand he has some things that need some work, he knows how to start slashing but not always how to finish it, he needs to predict opponents moves and have 3-4 alternatives in mind while sometimes looks like he only think to pass trough the first opponent, his shoot is not flawed and has a good form, he need repetitions on that, a good amount of that, not because of the % but because once in a while he puts up an ugly shot even not contested, he can handle the ball very well but he need to take care of the ball more, NBA if full of hungry sharks. T
I really don't want to express a final prediction because I'm really scared from the fact he reminds me a bald player who used to rock the 90's...
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Post#202 » by TheMartian » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:59 am

Jaylen was not included in my list for the #3 pick, but the kid is proving me wrong. Ainge may have drafted a real keeper here. Makes me think twice about trying to trade for Cousins, Griffin or Westbrook with the other team asking for Jaylen as part of the package. If the BKN 17 pick turns into gold, we'll pretty much have our franchise players from the '16 and '17 drafts. Wouldn't mind getting one of DMC, RW, or BG with a package involving the '18 pick without including Brown though.
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Re: Jaylen Brown - Has he changed your mind? 

Post#203 » by CollegeToPros » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:33 am

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Edug27 wrote:Jaylen reminds me so much of Wiggins and Jimmy Butler. 2 players I really like. I expect big things from this kid. Just needs to keep working.


I've been saying Derozan, but the window is wide open for whatever he could end up. Just hope he has the work ethic; all indicators show positive signs.


How am I the only one saying he's Kawhi! He's long athletic defense first with a great first step. 5 steals today


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Post#204 » by ViperGTS » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:04 am

mzepol wrote:Jaylen was not included in my list for the #3 pick, but the kid is proving me wrong. Ainge may have drafted a real keeper here. Makes me think twice about trying to trade for Cousins, Griffin or Westbrook with the other team asking for Jaylen as part of the package. If the BKN 17 pick turns into gold, we'll pretty much have our franchise players from the '16 and '17 drafts. Wouldn't mind getting one of DMC, RW, or BG with a package involving the '18 pick without including Brown though.


I've literally been preaching this for a long time now. All the people who are the now now now people need to sit back and not post for a long time. I hope Danny has been just playing with us. He knows the value of those picks.
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Re: Jaylen Brown - Has he changed your mind? 

Post#205 » by Edug27 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:05 am

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tlee324 wrote:
Edug27 wrote:Jaylen reminds me so much of Wiggins and Jimmy Butler. 2 players I really like. I expect big things from this kid. Just needs to keep working.


I've been saying Derozan, but the window is wide open for whatever he could end up. Just hope he has the work ethic; all indicators show positive signs.


How am I the only one saying he's Kawhi! He's long athletic defense first with a great first step. 5 steals today


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Hmm.. Interesting comparison I had never considered. I do think Jaylen can be a top notch defender with time.. Not Khawi good, but still good. Jaylen isn't the rebounder Khawi is, and Khawi is an underrated ball handler, which is an area Jaylen struggles. But I do think they can be similar players offensively. Khawi is just longer and plays well to his length. He knows how to use those long arms. In time Jaylens will learn to play and drive the ball more under control.
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Post#206 » by Edug27 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:07 am

tlee324 wrote:
Edug27 wrote:Jaylen reminds me so much of Wiggins and Jimmy Butler. 2 players I really like. I expect big things from this kid. Just needs to keep working.


I've been saying Derozan, but the window is wide open for whatever he could end up. Just hope he has the work ethic; all indicators show positive signs.


I can see that. Though I think he already has a better 3 ball than DeRozan.. And in Brads offense,
I think he'll be more of a 3 ball shooter than DeRozan is.
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Post#207 » by Edug27 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:11 am

CrowderKeg wrote:I think this guy gets it. If he's not all talk, I think he'll be aight.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMjQjl7jg7k[/youtube]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Marc_DAmico/status/754125026681430017[/tweet]


Impressive to hear from a 19 year old.
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Post#208 » by claycarver » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:31 am

Edug27 wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:I think this guy gets it. If he's not all talk, I think he'll be aight.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMjQjl7jg7k[/youtube]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Marc_DAmico/status/754125026681430017[/tweet]


Impressive to hear from a 19 year old.


No kidding. Great interview. I love when he was asked about the spacing in the NBA compared to college. "Its wonderful...I can get to the rim whenever I want." :lol: And its true!
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Post#209 » by pac213up » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:30 am

This was a great pick by Ainge. Should be able to contribute a bit this year and I would expect a big jump year 2.
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Post#210 » by Asian Celtic » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:51 am

He should be a handful in 2nd unit vs 2nd unit play in NBA. I'd imagine the opposing teams starters need to get back to the court when Brown starts to get comfortable in torching their bench. But against legit starters i think he'd still have a hard time. Maybe year 2 when he starts giving starters problems.
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Post#211 » by GreenBloodedC » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:32 pm

The thing you can take from his interview is he knows his weakness and what he needs to work on. Good sign.
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Post#212 » by Smog » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:22 pm

jrob23 wrote:I just suggested in a different post that Brown might actually be a SG. I based this on his similar size to DeRozan, M.J., and Kobe. Based on his current size he's a prototypical SF as he has the size/speed combo to take guys off the dribble and defend both quicker and larger guys. However, I can also see him losing some weight and adding quickness and with some tightening of his shot and handle, making the move to SG. It all really depends on how things go in training camp. At the very least I can see him getting time at SG as the alternatives are no better. Are there any SG in the league he can't guard? Are there any he can't either take on the dribble or post up? With all the combo guards and point forwards like Simmons, Giannis, and Lebron it makes sense to have someone with size matching up. We've all read the scouting reports about his supposed poor handle and three point shot but all I've seen is him take anyone guarding him (G, F, C) off the dribble and likewise he can guard multiple positions. I've also seen good form on his shot when shooting in rhythm. Sure he needs to tighten things up but he's athletically capable. Who is he competing with at SG? Hunter, Bradley? Smart? He can't beat them out? Whereas, he has to beat out Crowder. Which seems more difficult?


I like the idea of Brown at SG, but it's weird how people devalue Bradley on this board, like he's a scrub.
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Post#213 » by DelMonte West » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:31 pm

Smog wrote:
jrob23 wrote:I just suggested in a different post that Brown might actually be a SG. I based this on his similar size to DeRozan, M.J., and Kobe. Based on his current size he's a prototypical SF as he has the size/speed combo to take guys off the dribble and defend both quicker and larger guys. However, I can also see him losing some weight and adding quickness and with some tightening of his shot and handle, making the move to SG. It all really depends on how things go in training camp. At the very least I can see him getting time at SG as the alternatives are no better. Are there any SG in the league he can't guard? Are there any he can't either take on the dribble or post up? With all the combo guards and point forwards like Simmons, Giannis, and Lebron it makes sense to have someone with size matching up. We've all read the scouting reports about his supposed poor handle and three point shot but all I've seen is him take anyone guarding him (G, F, C) off the dribble and likewise he can guard multiple positions. I've also seen good form on his shot when shooting in rhythm. Sure he needs to tighten things up but he's athletically capable. Who is he competing with at SG? Hunter, Bradley? Smart? He can't beat them out? Whereas, he has to beat out Crowder. Which seems more difficult?


I like the idea of Brown at SG, but it's weird how people devalue Bradley on this board, like he's a scrub.


Couldn't agree more. Thomas gets the hype, but Bradley's more talented all-around. He's been underrated since day 1.
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Post#214 » by DakoBarr » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:58 pm

ermocrate wrote:I really don't want to express a final prediction because I'm really scared from the fact he reminds me a bald player who used to rock the 90's...


I made a similar comment when the hate was a little thicker on here. Stranger things have happened than a hyper athletic wing picked third panning out. Delusional comparison? Probably. Though JB is an otherworldly athlete with a nice foundation of skill. The ease with which he can just throw down on tall guys is definitely reminiscent of some greats, at least to me.

His size and speed package is hard to find. He has many skills, albeit raw, and isn't a lost cause in any aspect like plenty of other comparable prospects. I like his future more than Wiggins, and to the guy who said Kawhi, that seems fitting. Though I think he seems slight more athletic than Leonard with less question marks around his skill set. Leonard learning to shoot as well as he does was pretty unexpected, and I think Jay's form looks better.

Man. That fadeaway. Goosebumps. Would love the next great wing scorer to be a C. Speaking too much though. Don't wanna jinx it.
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Post#215 » by GregB » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:59 pm

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Smog wrote:
jrob23 wrote:I just suggested in a different post that Brown might actually be a SG. I based this on his similar size to DeRozan, M.J., and Kobe. Based on his current size he's a prototypical SF as he has the size/speed combo to take guys off the dribble and defend both quicker and larger guys. However, I can also see him losing some weight and adding quickness and with some tightening of his shot and handle, making the move to SG. It all really depends on how things go in training camp. At the very least I can see him getting time at SG as the alternatives are no better. Are there any SG in the league he can't guard? Are there any he can't either take on the dribble or post up? With all the combo guards and point forwards like Simmons, Giannis, and Lebron it makes sense to have someone with size matching up. We've all read the scouting reports about his supposed poor handle and three point shot but all I've seen is him take anyone guarding him (G, F, C) off the dribble and likewise he can guard multiple positions. I've also seen good form on his shot when shooting in rhythm. Sure he needs to tighten things up but he's athletically capable. Who is he competing with at SG? Hunter, Bradley? Smart? He can't beat them out? Whereas, he has to beat out Crowder. Which seems more difficult?


I like the idea of Brown at SG, but it's weird how people devalue Bradley on this board, like he's a scrub.


Couldn't agree more. Thomas gets the hype, but Bradley's more talented all-around. He's been underrated since day 1.


For me I understand Bradley is currently one of the most important and consistent players on the team. I think for me , he just isn't that efficient offensively. If we can upgrade his offense and get better size at the 2. It wouldn't be a bad move.
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Post#216 » by sam_I_am » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:12 pm

Top scoring rookies:

Dunn 24 ppg
Murray 17 ppg
Brown 16 ppg
Hield 16 ppg
( Ingram 12 ppg, Simmons 10 ppg, Bender 9 ppg, Chriss 10 ppg)

Brown's 27% 3 pt shooting was as good as Hield or Ingram or Murray
FWIW, if you exclude the 2 games where Brown appeared affected by injury he averaged > 20

Dunn wth his 54% shooting and 24 ppg is the only rookie who truly flashed superstar potential and production the way Lebron, Wade, Paul etc. did in SL. (With eyeball test mainly and less importantly with stats)
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#217 » by Edug27 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:13 pm

Smog wrote:
jrob23 wrote:I just suggested in a different post that Brown might actually be a SG. I based this on his similar size to DeRozan, M.J., and Kobe. Based on his current size he's a prototypical SF as he has the size/speed combo to take guys off the dribble and defend both quicker and larger guys. However, I can also see him losing some weight and adding quickness and with some tightening of his shot and handle, making the move to SG. It all really depends on how things go in training camp. At the very least I can see him getting time at SG as the alternatives are no better. Are there any SG in the league he can't guard? Are there any he can't either take on the dribble or post up? With all the combo guards and point forwards like Simmons, Giannis, and Lebron it makes sense to have someone with size matching up. We've all read the scouting reports about his supposed poor handle and three point shot but all I've seen is him take anyone guarding him (G, F, C) off the dribble and likewise he can guard multiple positions. I've also seen good form on his shot when shooting in rhythm. Sure he needs to tighten things up but he's athletically capable. Who is he competing with at SG? Hunter, Bradley? Smart? He can't beat them out? Whereas, he has to beat out Crowder. Which seems more difficult?


I like the idea of Brown at SG, but it's weird how people devalue Bradley on this board, like he's a scrub.


I like Bradley and recognize his talent and value. But he's much more suited for a 6th man role than he is a starting SG.
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Re: Jaylen Brown - Has he changed your mind? 

Post#218 » by CollegeToPros » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:19 pm

Edug27 wrote:
CollegeToPros wrote:
tlee324 wrote:
I've been saying Derozan, but the window is wide open for whatever he could end up. Just hope he has the work ethic; all indicators show positive signs.


How am I the only one saying he's Kawhi! He's long athletic defense first with a great first step. 5 steals today


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Hmm.. Interesting comparison I had never considered. I do think Jaylen can be a top notch defender with time.. Not Khawi good, but still good. Jaylen isn't the rebounder Khawi is, and Khawi is an underrated ball handler, which is an area Jaylen struggles. But I do think they can be similar players offensively. Khawi is just longer and plays well to his length. He knows how to use those long arms. In time Jaylens will learn to play and drive the ball more under control.


But give all of that time to develop. I don't remember exactly what Kawhi looked like early but Jaylen does play big like him.


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Post#219 » by CollegeToPros » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:23 pm

DakoBarr wrote:
ermocrate wrote:I really don't want to express a final prediction because I'm really scared from the fact he reminds me a bald player who used to rock the 90's...


I made a similar comment when the hate was a little thicker on here. Stranger things have happened than a hyper athletic wing picked third panning out. Delusional comparison? Probably. Though JB is an otherworldly athlete with a nice foundation of skill. The ease with which he can just throw down on tall guys is definitely reminiscent of some greats, at least to me.

His size and speed package is hard to find. He has many skills, albeit raw, and isn't a lost cause in any aspect like plenty of other comparable prospects. I like his future more than Wiggins, and to the guy who said Kawhi, that seems fitting. Though I think he seems slight more athletic than Leonard with less question marks around his skill set. Leonard learning to shoot as well as he does was pretty unexpected, and I think Jay's form looks better.

Man. That fadeaway. Goosebumps. Would love the next great wing scorer to be a C. Speaking too much though. Don't wanna jinx it.


His demeanor and attitude remind me of Kawhi too. Brown more of a talker but the humbleness and work ethic and the confidence on the court is just like him.

Either way this is the right pick. This is the guy to gamble on for the Celtics.


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Post#220 » by shackles10 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:13 pm

GreenBloodedC wrote:The thing you can take from his interview is he knows his weakness and what he needs to work on. Good sign.


Agreed. He tied that right into knowing what his role will be in a very mature way as well. Keep it simple stupid, and he knows the 3 things he'll be asked to do and sounds ready to fulfill those roles as best as he can. Gotta love a young player who comes in looking to help the team instead of helping himself.

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