Draft Thread 6.0: Magic picking 6th, 35th, 41st

[DiplomaticMagic]

I'm all for taking Chandler Parsons contract with the #4 pick while keeping #6.

Our salary cap is **** until Biz is off the books anyway and they expire same year.

Plus Parsons is from Orlando, could careless if he can play or not as I want to tank next year anyway.

And if Doncic is there? Homerun.

I think we can make a compelling offer too but probably not enough to get it done.

[yoyojw17]

This is ridiculous

What does he do well? He can't shoot. He doesn't pass. He has trouble penetrating into the lane. His motor isn't always on.

He's a terrific athlete. I'll give him that. Hell, I would rather use a top 20 pick in the NFL draft on him than a top 20 NBA pick.

He has trouble penetrating in the lane....
This is one of his strenghts.
I don t think you watched any alabama games

Watch on YouTube

Haha... a guy named "Young Bull"... i'm pretty sure it's his bread and butter.

[YosemiteSam]

I don’t get the unwillingness to take on Parson’s contract. We are not going to have all that much cap space next summer, and more than likely we will not be a free agent destination at that point.
So why not have all of our big contracts end at the same time and be major players in free agency 2 summers from now. By that time I would hope we are in a much better situation than currently.
I would also hope and think that WeHam are smart enough to think that way.

Cap space for the Magic is not now nor would be in 2 years about straight signing a good to great free agent. Those days are gone and the only way to get a top tier free agent is to be a part of 3 players forming a super team. I just don’t see that ever being an option in the Orlando Magic. The reason for us to have cap space next year is as a way to facilitate OTHER teams offloading their bad contracts to free up space for a super team or to get below the luxury tax. If we had $15-$20M in cap space this year we would be potentially in play to get Denver’s lottery pick for taking on the last year of Faried’s contract to get them under the tax. Even more enticing there is a decent chance that for the Lakers to get LeBron, P George and another top star they would trade Ball or Ingram if the other team takes on Deng’s terrible deal. I would love us to be in that position next year. It is like getting two high lottery picks in one year. Parsons deal would kill that.

I understand wanting to benefit also of being under the cap to take on salary and assets. But you don’t have confidence in the possibility that two of Trae/ Doncic along with AG, Isaac can be attractive to free agents 2 years from now?
I am not saying it’s sure fire but if management is smart in how they gather talent over the next 2 years, I would like to think Orlando as a City can attract a star/emerging star wanting to come here to the #1 guy.

I hope you are right but I fear the league has fundamentally changed and only free agents that change teams that are top tier will be joining super teams in LA, Chicago, Boston, NY, Miami etc. glamorous cities

[yoyojw17]

I can't wait for the draft to be over...... So we can all be excited for Trae Young

I miss that show. lol

[YosemiteSam]

could careless if he can play or not as I want to tank next year anyway.

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Not sure if you realize tanking ceases to be an effective strategy starting next year as they have completely revamped the lottery to discourage tanking. Everyone will need to delete their silly tank gifs

[Uncommon]

Cap space for the Magic is not now nor would be in 2 years about straight signing a good to great free agent. Those days are gone and the only way to get a top tier free agent is to be a part of 3 players forming a super team. I just don’t see that ever being an option in the Orlando Magic. The reason for us to have cap space next year is as a way to facilitate OTHER teams offloading their bad contracts to free up space for a super team or to get below the luxury tax. If we had $15-$20M in cap space this year we would be potentially in play to get Denver’s lottery pick for taking on the last year of Faried’s contract to get them under the tax. Even more enticing there is a decent chance that for the Lakers to get LeBron, P George and another top star they would trade Ball or Ingram if the other team takes on Deng’s terrible deal. I would love us to be in that position next year. It is like getting two high lottery picks in one year. Parsons deal would kill that.

I understand wanting to benefit also of being under the cap to take on salary and assets. But you don’t have confidence in the possibility that two of Trae/ Doncic along with AG, Isaac can be attractive to free agents 2 years from now?
I am not saying it’s sure fire but if management is smart in how they gather talent over the next 2 years, I would like to think Orlando as a City can attract a star/emerging star wanting to come here to the #1 guy.

I hope you are right but I fear the league has fundamentally changed and only free agents that change teams that are top tier will be joining super teams in LA, Chicago, Boston, NY, Miami etc. glamorous cities

I don’t think players care about this as much as the media has lead dense fans to believe. Players care primarily about winning. Durant went to the Warriors but GSW is not really in a glamorous city (not yet anyway, as Oakland is a dump, no offense). New York, Chicago or Los Angeles haven’t attracted a top-tier free agent this decade, unless you count Wade.

Point is, if the Magic build a championship-contending and winning team, players will want to join, just like players want to join Philadelphia, Boston, Houston, etc. It’s not about status; it’s aboit possibility of winning a ring.

[tiderulz]

Thinking we have no use for cap so we can acquire bad salaries isnt as easy as it sounds.

Perhaps to make it to the cap floor, but to be over the floor and be paying out more and more millions to a losing team is a very very risky scenario for us.

What if we hit a jackpot with the 6th pick and need cap space because we can compete immediately? I dont think RDV would also give the management the luxury to be paying out more millions Than what he is paying now just to put up more losing product. Thats just bad business.

we're talking 2 years though. We arent going to be able to truly in contend in just 2 years.

[OrlandoDream]

So whats Trae Young's excuse for leading the nation in scoring AND assists as a freshman and same age as Sexton? ALso just reminded me of another abysmal stat of sexton.....3.6 ast in 30 minutes is incredibly bad production. He even had better teammates then Trae who avg 8.7ast in 33 min. Sexton isnt even a good playmaker for a PG. He will be lucky to reach Bledsoe status in his career.

I got him as the second coming of Marcus Smart. Thats a more realistic comparison.

not sure what 1 has to do with the other. i didnt compare the two or even mention Young. Sexton was also not a real PG and played SG in HS. Young been playing PG only. I also didnt say he would have Bledsoe's career, i said he could develop like Bledsoe. Bledsoe wasnt a good PG coming into the league either, but learned from CP3.

its like you arent really reading what i wrote, but attributing your own thoughts to it.

Some people here.
The critical point of view and hate certain posters here have for certain prospects is really absurd.
Every prospect who get draft has his qualities and flaws even the boards darling trae young.
If young is the pick i will support him like i support every player who is drafted by the magic.
But i wait for the first time people here starting to complain about young jacking up shots

After having to endure almost 4 seasons of Elfrid Payton I just can't believe any fan that went through that would want to draft another project PG that isn't considered a shooter. I'm not hating just stating that obvious needs for this team and Sexton doesn't fill any gaps. While it is in part vogels fault, this team is not very good offensively. We desperately need a scoring/shooting PG bc Fournier cant do it himself every night.

[PrimeThyme]

What we need to worry about is a team like Phoenix who has more tradeable assets and a need for a point guard moving up to 4 and taking Young.

[gov1718]

I'm all for taking Chandler Parsons contract with the #4 pick while keeping #6.

Our salary cap is **** until Biz is off the books anyway and they expire same year.

Plus Parsons is from Orlando, could careless if he can play or not as I want to tank next year anyway.

And if Doncic is there? Homerun. 4 and Parsons for expiring contracts?

I think we can make a compelling offer too but probably not enough to get it done.

[gov1718]

Parsons and 4 for expiring contracts? Then we have 4 and 6.

[gov1718]

Parsons and 4 for expiring contracts? Then we have 4 and 6.

what expiring contracts of Magic match Parsons?

[VFX]

I'm all for taking Chandler Parsons contract with the #4 pick while keeping #6.

Our salary cap is **** until Biz is off the books anyway and they expire same year.

Plus Parsons is from Orlando, could careless if he can play or not as I want to tank next year anyway.

And if Doncic is there? Homerun.

I think we can make a compelling offer too but probably not enough to get it done.

I agree with this. If Orlando is able to land Bagley or Doncic at 4, then consider that a huge win. If Parsons contributes in the slightest, that’s a definite positive.

[MagicFan101]

Parsons and 4 for expiring contracts? Then we have 4 and 6.

what expiring contracts of Magic match Parsons?

Parsons makes $24.1M next year.

Vuc and Ross are now expiring deals combining to $23.25M.

[gov1718]

We could get Luca and Wendell to 4 and 6.

[gov1718]

Or JJJ And Trea Young at 4 and 6

[MagicFan101]

Let’s pretend this goes down (Vuc + Ross + future pick for #4 + Parsons).

I expect Ayton, Doncic and Bagley to go top 3.

So if Orlando makes that deal and walks away with Bamba + Young, is it a win?

[gov1718]

Or Bamba and Porter at 4 and 6

[IllMagic04]

The Griz aren't trading their pick just to get rid of a bad contract. That would be stupid.

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[gov1718]

Or Porter and Trea at 4 and 6