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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#181 » by TeamMan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:20 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.


Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA... :noway:

I keep saying it, but Horford is a PF, and so is Carter.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#182 » by fleet » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:20 am

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Chi wrote:How can anyone with a brain watch what Horford has been doing and not like this pick?

If we had Brown Tatum Irving Hayward Rozier and Smart already we would love the pick



I see 1 (bench) player on that list that was there Before Horford...

And does it really matter what order you get your All-Stars in?

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#183 » by TheSuzerain » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:20 am

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TheSuzerain wrote:That remains to be seen. The Duke tape is pretty much worthless.


Maybe, but the current results are a lot more encouraging than discouraging. He rotates well, understands positioning, plays angles well, reacts quickly and shows solid overall IQ on that end. There's definitely some improvement he can make, but he's entering the league as a more than capable defensive player.

I feel like Carter is a much safer bet to translate offensively.

And we have no idea if he is a capable defensive player at this point. That's very tough to evaluate coming out of college. Especially from a zone defense. He should be a good post defender but honestly who give a ****? We'll have to see how he works in space.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#184 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:21 am

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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#185 » by Chi » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:21 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.


Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA... :noway:


Al Horford is a vastly superior prospect and player to what Carter is. You can't really just say Carter = Horford when Horford was a lock #3 behind Oden/Durant and is actually good.

By this logic, Mikal Bridges was Klay Thompson and the Bulls let him go.


You know the difference between Carter and Horford? Carter is also an elite rebounder and Horford not so much...

Outside of that every strength you ever heard about Horford having as he grew throughout his NBA career, is a strength that Carter ALREADY HAS at 19 yrs old.


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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#186 » by TheSuzerain » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.


Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA... :noway:

I keep saying it, but Horford is a PF, and so is Carter.

Horford as a prospect was much leaner and more explosive. Carter looks plodding at times. Horford was never that.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#187 » by DanTown8587 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.


Carter is 6'10, 253. Wouldn't that qualify as a huge body? Unless you're referring to height, which he wouldn't be but his 9'1 standing reach and 7'5 wingspan aren't poor either.


Carter isn't big for a C, he's ok sized. He's not Embiid or Ayton or any of the legit legit 7' guys.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#188 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:23 am

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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#189 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:24 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.


Carter is 6'10, 253. Wouldn't that qualify as a huge body? Unless you're referring to height, which he wouldn't be but his 9'1 standing reach and 7'5 wingspan aren't poor either.


Carter isn't big for a C, he's ok sized. He's not Embiid or Ayton or any of the legit legit 7' guys.


And those guys will be taken off the court when the other team goes small.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#190 » by Chi » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:24 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.


Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA... :noway:

I keep saying it, but Horford is a PF, and so is Carter.


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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#191 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:24 am

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fleet wrote:If we had Brown Tatum Irving Hayward Rozier and Smart already we would love the pick



I see 1 (bench) player on that list that was there Before Horford...

And does it really matter what order you get your All-Stars in?

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.


Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild. :lol:
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#192 » by TimHonks » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:25 am

We got a good player, I’m happy.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#193 » by coldfish » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:25 am

I don't know what to think about this pick but I feel very strongly about it.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#194 » by samwana » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:25 am

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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#195 » by DanTown8587 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:25 am

Chi wrote:
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Chi wrote:
Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA... :noway:


Al Horford is a vastly superior prospect and player to what Carter is. You can't really just say Carter = Horford when Horford was a lock #3 behind Oden/Durant and is actually good.

By this logic, Mikal Bridges was Klay Thompson and the Bulls let him go.


You know the difference between Carter and Horford? Carter is also an elite rebounder and Horford not so much...

Outside of that every strength you ever heard about Horford having as he grew throughout his NBA career, is a strength that Carter ALREADY HAS at 19 yrs old.


Bulls fans, please do more research before you jump off that building...


The idea Horford isn't an elite rebounder is relying on stats and not on Horford's abilty to consistently box out guys.

I really don't like the idea that the Bulls drafted a guy at #7 that was never a legit consideration for a top five selection is equal to a guy who was a lock to go #3 and then said lock actually played really well in his NBA life.

Carter isn't Horford. He simply doesn't have the speed nor does he have the fluidity to play that way. People forget because Horford is in his 30s but Horford was a vastly superior athlete entering the league than Carter is. Unless you think Carter drastically improves that, he's not going to be Horford.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#196 » by DanTown8587 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:26 am

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Carter is 6'10, 253. Wouldn't that qualify as a huge body? Unless you're referring to height, which he wouldn't be but his 9'1 standing reach and 7'5 wingspan aren't poor either.


Carter isn't big for a C, he's ok sized. He's not Embiid or Ayton or any of the legit legit 7' guys.


And those guys will be taken off the court when the other team goes small.


There is no argument that Carter is a better prospect than Ayton.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#197 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:26 am

I’m so pleased the FO confirmed that they don’t give a **** about fan preferences. I was worried they’d falter this year.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#198 » by fleet » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:27 am

DuckIII wrote:
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Chi wrote:

I see 1 (bench) player on that list that was there Before Horford...

And does it really matter what order you get your All-Stars in?

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.


Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild. :lol:

Project 5 years ahead Duck. Who are we gonna beat? Maybe we'll have Lebron by then.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#200 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:28 am

Lana Del Rey wrote:Carter + Lauri = the new Twin Towers


6'9" is not a tower.

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