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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#461 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:13 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


No way the A team happens, but that's the one I would pick. Its younger, you still magically have Herro which we can trade for an upgrade at PF and we keep bam with his great defense.

Team B is interesting, we blow up our defense and our defensive identity for more offense. Is Yurtsven a starter? How good will Vincent be? Butler would be our point guard in crunch time since Durant is more of a finisher scorer. It would be interesting to see if Spo can adapt to this team and play to their strengths.


First team is definitely possible.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#462 » by Spacely » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:14 pm

stepback_ftw wrote:
Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


Hmm seeings these teams lined up i would say the Kyrie team has better spacing for Butler to operate and better defense too. Fat chance keeping Herro though


Word is on the Kyrie trade that herro, bam and jimmy is untouchable so I kept herro on the team
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#463 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:16 pm

twix2500 wrote:Kyrie Irvin value is low. Lower than Ben Simmons. Its a good chance Nets may have to pay to move Kyrie. However they do not have draft picks i think they pretty much broke on picks. They will have to take bad contracts in return. Kyrie has a huge problem. Teams are not gonna want to extend him long term. He might get a 1 and 1 contract for the rest of his career.

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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#464 » by stepback_ftw » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:17 pm

Spacely wrote:
stepback_ftw wrote:
Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


Hmm seeings these teams lined up i would say the Kyrie team has better spacing for Butler to operate and better defense too. Fat chance keeping Herro though


Word is on the Kyrie trade that herro, bam and jimmy is untouchable so I kept herro on the team


Thats a sick team then. Start Strus and have Tyler off the bench again.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#465 » by AirP. » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:17 pm

Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Lowry/Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


Regular season team 1, more offense more better.
Playoffs team 2, isolation baskets and more defense... toss Oladipo in at starting SG with team 2 and it's not close.

Team 1 has 2 starters that teams can isolate, team 2 has Yurtseven to be picked on and maybe Strus.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#466 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#467 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:22 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#468 » by Spacely » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 pm

AirP. wrote:
Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Lowry/Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


Regular season team 1, more offense more better.
Playoffs team 2, isolation baskets and more defense... toss Oladipo in at starting SG with team 2 and it's not close.

Team 1 has 2 starters that teams can isolate, team 2 has Yurtseven to be picked on and maybe Strus.


I think team 2 would have to upgrade its bench or it might be doomed

Let’s say we did keep Vic and PJ though, is that enough?
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#469 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Kyrie Irvin value is low. Lower than Ben Simmons. Its a good chance Nets may have to pay to move Kyrie. However they do not have draft picks i think they pretty much broke on picks. They will have to take bad contracts in return. Kyrie has a huge problem. Teams are not gonna want to extend him long term. He might get a 1 and 1 contract for the rest of his career.

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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#470 » by greg4012 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 pm

AirP. wrote:
Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Lowry/Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


Regular season team 1, more offense more better.
Playoffs team 2, isolation baskets and more defense... toss Oladipo in at starting SG with team 2 and it's not close.

Team 1 has 2 starters that teams can isolate, team 2 has Yurtseven to be picked on and maybe Strus.


Why can't we also toss in Oladipo on team 1?
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#471 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:24 pm

Micky wanted Heat nation to STFU about Irving this weekend and the noise got even louder :lol:
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#472 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:24 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#473 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:25 pm

greg4012 wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Spacely wrote:Which team is more lethal

Irving/Vincent
Herro/Strus
Butler/Robinson
“PJ”/Jovic
Bam/Yurtsven

Vs.

Lowry/Vincent
Strus/Robinson
Butler
Durant/“PJ”/Jovic
Yurtsven

Idk about free agency pick ups and I just added PJ just because but you get the point


Regular season team 1, more offense more better.
Playoffs team 2, isolation baskets and more defense... toss Oladipo in at starting SG with team 2 and it's not close.

Team 1 has 2 starters that teams can isolate, team 2 has Yurtseven to be picked on and maybe Strus.


Why can't we also toss in Oladipo on team 1?

Cause Oladipo is probably not going to want to go into training camp having to fight for minutes with Herro and Strus. He does make a great fit with team 2 though.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#474 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:25 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#475 » by Spacely » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:26 pm

Y’all may not like herro and he did sh*t the bed in the playoffs but he is still young so it’s okay. He still provides 20 POINTS off the bench. How are we gonna replace that? Plus bams defense would be gone too. We are left with unproven and undrafted players and ain’t no telling how that will go. But vet mins might help the situation so it’s very unclear on that aspect.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#476 » by greg4012 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:26 pm

Does the fact that the Nets are committed to (read as STUCK WITH) Ben Simmons make a potential trade package centered around Bam (+ Herro and more) for Durant less appealing to them? Simmons and Bam aren't a good fit.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#477 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:26 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Regular season team 1, more offense more better.
Playoffs team 2, isolation baskets and more defense... toss Oladipo in at starting SG with team 2 and it's not close.

Team 1 has 2 starters that teams can isolate, team 2 has Yurtseven to be picked on and maybe Strus.


Why can't we also toss in Oladipo on team 1?

Cause Oladipo is probably not going to want to go into training camp having to fight for minutes with Herro and Strus. He does make a great fit with team 2 though.


Herro can go for a 4 then. Bams the only future piece we need to be worried about.

Dipo >>>>> Herro
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#478 » by greg4012 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:27 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Regular season team 1, more offense more better.
Playoffs team 2, isolation baskets and more defense... toss Oladipo in at starting SG with team 2 and it's not close.

Team 1 has 2 starters that teams can isolate, team 2 has Yurtseven to be picked on and maybe Strus.


Why can't we also toss in Oladipo on team 1?

Cause Oladipo is probably not going to want to go into training camp having to fight for minutes with Herro and Strus. He does make a great fit with team 2 though.


That's why Herro can be traded for a starting 4. From an asset perspective, we are positioned to benefit from Oladipo's bird rights and Herro's value in some form or fashion even if we don't keep them both.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#479 » by Spacely » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:29 pm

Y’all are on some kind of drug if you think herro is getting traded for a “starter” 4.
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Re: Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice 

Post#480 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:30 pm

If Kyrie backs out of his contract and signs for the minimum, including his trade kicker he’d be giving away $50M. Surely no one is that petty lol
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