Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think Phoenix is out of the running.

We played chicken with Kyrie during negotiations and "won". I don't think we'll win with KD. Tsai and Marks don't want another drama filled year where every story is about Kyrie and KD being unhappy, trade rumors, coaches and players being put in uncomfortable situations. That's without considering KD potentially pulling a Ben Simmons. That would be an absolute circus.

I think we eventually accept the Miami or Phoenix offer once they actually offer everything possible.

Phoenix is done. The Nets will not trade Kevin Durant for Bridges, salary filler, and picks.

Phoenix's offer is trash and Miami's is even worse. I'd run the risk of KD wasting his last season being on the right side of 30 over trading him for garbage.

[Crives]

I don't think Phoenix is out of the running.

We played chicken with Kyrie during negotiations and "won". I don't think we'll win with KD. Tsai and Marks don't want another drama filled year where every story is about Kyrie and KD being unhappy, trade rumors, coaches and players being put in uncomfortable situations. That's without considering KD potentially pulling a Ben Simmons. That would be an absolute circus.

I think we eventually accept the Miami or Phoenix offer once they actually offer everything possible.

Do we make a deal today while Ayton can be included in S&T

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

[Educator]

I don't think Phoenix is out of the running.

We played chicken with Kyrie during negotiations and "won". I don't think we'll win with KD. Tsai and Marks don't want another drama filled year where every story is about Kyrie and KD being unhappy, trade rumors, coaches and players being put in uncomfortable situations. That's without considering KD potentially pulling a Ben Simmons. That would be an absolute circus.

I think we eventually accept the Miami or Phoenix offer once they actually offer everything possible.

Phoenix is done. The Nets will not trade Kevin Durant for Bridges, salary filler, and picks.

Phoenix's offer is trash and Miami's is even worse. I'd run the risk of KD wasting his last season being on the right side of 30 over trading him for garbage.

Of course. This is a good thing for Brooklyn. The goal is not to trade Kevin Durant. The goal is keep him. His preferred destination no longer being viable makes that more likely. He may realize, with the exception of the glaring weakness at center, this roster is pretty stacked as it is.

I have seen some people suggest that Phoenix being eliminated is a bad thing because now other teams can lower their offers, but that is just total nonsense. The asking price for Durant does not change because there is one less team that is a realistic trade partner. The Nets simply don't have to trade him. It's up to other teams to meet the Nets' needs for a trade, not the other way around.

[Educator]

Do we make a deal today while Ayton can be included in S&T

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

That might be a decent package for Ben Simmons, not Kevin Durant.

[Crives]

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

That might be a decent package for Ben Simmons, not Kevin Durant.

Mikal alone is worth 2-3 first more then Ben. Take a look at poll on trade board

[Born_Ready]

This soap opera should come to an end real soon.

Wouldn't it be great if KD saw the disrespect around the league (teams don't want to give up chit to bring him in), and he came out the gate steaming mad and dropped 40/10 every single game? I mean he is the best scorer in the league... Get mad Kevin, get mad. You stuck in Brooklyn fam.. LFG!

[JKiddy]

Do we make a deal today while Ayton can be included in S&T

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

Crives, I am the most level headed logical and fair-minded fan.

This offer is very bad. Please stop. Bridges is lucky to ever become an All-Star. Let's just say he becomes a 1-time All-Star.

KD is the best player in the world (Top 3 at worst). He is a first ballot HOF, the best scorer in NBA History, and is at his prime today.

Would you trade that player for a wishful thinking possible All-Star? Please answer and be honest.

[N Ireland Nets]

Bit of fun here....I still think KD and Irving stay BUT with Mitchell on the block what about...

Irving plus filler to LA for Westbrook & 2 1sts.
Send those 2 1sts plus Raptors picks to Jazz for Mitchell



Westbrook
Mitchell
OG
Barnes
Claxton

Obviously this is pie in the sky but why not throw it out there haha

[Crives]

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

Crives, I am the most level headed logical and fair-minded fan.

This offer is very bad. Please stop. Bridges is lucky to ever become an All-Star. Let's just say he becomes a 1-time All-Star.

KD is the best player in the world (Top 3 at worst). He is a first ballot HOF, the best scorer in NBA History, and is at his prime today.

Would you trade that player for a wishful thinking possible All-Star? Please answer and be honest.

I don’t want to argue with a nets fan on your board.
But when phx trades Mikal to phx, Nets will be my team out east.

As a soon to be nets fan. We owe all of our picks… I don’t want to risk the next decade because we held onto disgruntled KD/Kyrie for half a year to a year. KD is 34 this season, 35 next season. His value can drop very fast. Teams are looking at trading for him for a 2 year window, we need to trade him now and maximize value. This is not a young Luka/Giannis, we need realistic expectations.

I really like the idea of pairing Mikal/Simmons/Turner…. That’s a top 5 defense if Simmons is healthy. Those phx picks will be the most valuable picks in the league given KD/CP3 age and lack of phx depth. We can build a fun, elite defensive team and work to attract or trade for a star creator with the haul of picks we about to get.

Also, Mikal was last man out of all star game last year, you are really underrating him. He is most phx fans favorite player over guys like CP3/Ayton/Booker

[JKiddy]

I cannot see Sean Marks making a deal where the only two players are Kevin freaking Durant for Mikal Bridges. He would lose his job and be mocked forever. Bridges is not a bad player. I think he is on the rise. I just don't know if he will ever be a 30ppg player. I am unsure if he will be a 26ppg let alone 24ppg. I think KD and Kyrie are staying. But, if it was a multi-player deal and the Nets were getting Bridges and another young on the rise player with a massive boat load of solid future picks it would possibly open the discussion.

Marks couldn't make the deal you mentioned. We appreciate you supporting our team though and we all wish you the best of luck.

[3pt_chucker]

Do we make a deal today while Ayton can be included in S&T

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

That's much less assets than the Anthony Davis trade. Nets want at least that. Bridges trade value is not that high, sorry to break it to ya. Yes, it's a lot of picks but the Nets want at minimum, 1 blue chip player.

[Crives]

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

That's much less assets than the Anthony Davis trade. Nets want at least that. Bridges trade value is not that high, sorry to break it to ya. Yes, it's a lot of picks but the Nets want at minimum, 1 blue chip player.

Respectfully disagree

Keep in mind

1. 26 year old AD trade value was much higher at the time then 34 yr old Durant coming off Achilles surgery. AD was supposed to give lakers a long window that allowed them to lose their depth, KD likely has a very short ~2 yr window. AD was considered top 5 player at this time.

2. Bridges is worth more now the Ingram was 3 years ago. Ingram had not established himself as a star, and was at high risk of retirement due to blood clot issue.

3. These phx picks are worth a lot more then LA.

[vincecarter4pres]

Bridges is a nice player. He's one of the best wing defenders in the league. He's a good shooter. He's a gazelle in transition. He has high BBIQ. He is low maintenance. That said, I don't see much of a ceiling with him. He has basically maxed out. He can't really self create, he doesn't get to the line and his efficiency crashes with heavier volume.

[Crives]

Bridges is a nice player. He's one of the best wing defenders in the league. He's a good shooter. He's a gazelle in transition. He has high BBIQ. He is low maintenance. That said, I don't see much of a ceiling with him. He has basically maxed out. He can't really self create, he doesn't get to the line and his efficiency crashes with heavier volume.

He hasn’t really had opportunity or need, as he’s usually focused on defending best player… he started playing some pick and roll and added mid range game last year, it looked really nice and he had some big scoring game… again, not saying you can count on it, but don’t think of his upside as being limited. He does have a really nice shot and is one of best finishers around the rim

[3pt_chucker]

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

That's much less assets than the Anthony Davis trade. Nets want at least that. Bridges trade value is not that high, sorry to break it to ya. Yes, it's a lot of picks but the Nets want at minimum, 1 blue chip player.

Respectfully disagree

Keep in mind

1. 26 year old AD trade value was much higher at the time then 34 yr old Durant coming off Achilles surgery. AD was supposed to give lakers a long window that allowed them to lose their depth, KD likely has a very short ~2 yr window. AD was considered top 5 player at this time.

2. Bridges is worth more now the Ingram was 3 years ago. Ingram had not established himself as a star, and was at high risk of retirement due to blood clot issue.

3. These phx picks are worth a lot more then LA.

1. (a) KD now > AD then. Last season KD was top2-3 in MVP discussion until the unlucky injury happened. (b) AD was also on a much shorter contract which was also a factor. (c) AD is also highly injury prone, so I think that's a wash when comparing to KD. KD has long history of phenomenal recovery from injury as well.

2. Ingram was seen as a guy with a high ceiling(multiple all-star & 1a/1b on a team), who had a crap situation in LA and still needed some time to develop. His ceiling even in that crap situation was still higher than what Bridges is now. High risk of retirement is hyperbole.

3. How is it worth more?? Just because you say so? They are around similar levels of value. Lakers had an aging LBJ, injury prone AD and a supporting cast that was good not great. This is before the whole Westbrook debacle happened. Lakers had been a mess before LBJ got there and to the surprise of no one, are still a bit of a mess.
While Booker is not at the same level as AD, he's far more reliable and would be a better bet to keep PHX from being a lottery team.

I get you want KD on the cheap (who wouldn't?) but the reality is that it's not gonna happen that way.

[gigantes]

Bit of fun here....I still think KD and Irving stay BUT with Mitchell on the block what about...

Irving plus filler to LA for Westbrook & 2 1sts.
Send those 2 1sts plus Raptors picks to Jazz for Mitchell

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Westbrook
Mitchell
OG
Barnes
Claxton

Obviously this is pie in the sky but why not throw it out there haha

Eh, pardon, but I asked you a Q just above there, laddie.

Did you see..?

[TheNetsFan]

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

That's much less assets than the Anthony Davis trade. Nets want at least that. Bridges trade value is not that high, sorry to break it to ya. Yes, it's a lot of picks but the Nets want at minimum, 1 blue chip player.

Respectfully disagree

Keep in mind

1. 26 year old AD trade value was much higher at the time then 34 yr old Durant coming off Achilles surgery. AD was supposed to give lakers a long window that allowed them to lose their depth, KD likely has a very short ~2 yr window. AD was considered top 5 player at this time.

2. Bridges is worth more now the Ingram was 3 years ago. Ingram had not established himself as a star, and was at high risk of retirement due to blood clot issue.

3. These phx picks are worth a lot more then LA.

KD is 3 years removed from Achilles surgery. He's not coming off of it anymore. He's not an unknown anymore. KD has about a 2 year window as a top 5ish player. His game isn't dependent on athleticism. He will fade gracefully. He's not going from top 5 to bench scrub. It'll be top 5ish for a couple years, then maybe top 15-20, then top 30. The defensive ability will fade, but not the offensive ability. He can be 45 and still be a role playing stretch 4 sniper that can get his shot over anybody.

Bridges is not worth more than Ingram was. They're comparable.

I'll give you that the Phoenix picks have a bit more perceived potential value due to Paul's age, the loss of Ayton and Bridges and Phoenix's historically cheap owner (though Jeannie Buss isn't much better).

[Hello Brooklyn]

Do we make a deal today while Ayton can be included in S&T

We aren't going to allocate 40 million dollars year to two centers, or take your garbage offer.

Garbage?

Mikal + Phx 4 phx firsts+ 3 swaps + likely Myles and another first would be one of biggest returns for a star ever… biggest return for a 34 yr old star actually.

That’s not garbage

Hot garbage.

The best player were getting is Mikal Bridges? For a top 5 player.

No thanks.

[Netaman]

I think there's more upside with Bridges than Nets fans give him credit for. Going back to Nova when he was more of a role player before his last year there he's had some playmaking ability. Last year on higher volume he shot .425 from 3.

Even if he's only ever an elite 3 & D wing, that's enormously valuable, especially on a fair contract.

all that said with the Ayton news I think Phoenix is dead in the water unless there's a bigger deal of some sort in play (like Mitchell). Which actually wouldn't surprise me. It would be very Ainge to have a Mitchell deal he likes that he's pitting the Knicks against. I think the deals above with Toronto are pretty unlikely, but I could see something in that ballpark with Phoenix.

Utah gets Simmons + a bunch of picks/swaps from PHO
Pho gets KD
Nets get Bridges, Mitchell, Conley, and some picks, filler

then somehow the kyrie/lakers deal gets facilitated with another pick to the nets.

but i think that's more unlikely at this point. phoenix odds of getting KD took a big hit today.

[Crives]

That's much less assets than the Anthony Davis trade. Nets want at least that. Bridges trade value is not that high, sorry to break it to ya. Yes, it's a lot of picks but the Nets want at minimum, 1 blue chip player.

Respectfully disagree

Keep in mind

1. 26 year old AD trade value was much higher at the time then 34 yr old Durant coming off Achilles surgery. AD was supposed to give lakers a long window that allowed them to lose their depth, KD likely has a very short ~2 yr window. AD was considered top 5 player at this time.

2. Bridges is worth more now the Ingram was 3 years ago. Ingram had not established himself as a star, and was at high risk of retirement due to blood clot issue.

3. These phx picks are worth a lot more then LA.

1. (a) KD now > AD then. Last season KD was top2-3 in MVP discussion until the unlucky injury happened. (b) AD was also on a much shorter contract which was also a factor. (c) AD is also highly injury prone, so I think that's a wash when comparing to KD. KD has long history of phenomenal recovery from injury as well.

2. Ingram was seen as a guy with a high ceiling(multiple all-star & 1a/1b on a team), who had a crap situation in LA and still needed some time to develop. His ceiling even in that crap situation was still higher than what Bridges is now. High risk of retirement is hyperbole.

3. How is it worth more?? Just because you say so? They are around similar levels of value. Lakers had an aging LBJ, injury prone AD and a supporting cast that was good not great. This is before the whole Westbrook debacle happened. Lakers had been a mess before LBJ got there and to the surprise of no one, are still a bit of a mess.
While Booker is not at the same level as AD, he's far more reliable and would be a better bet to keep PHX from being a lottery team.

I get you want KD on the cheap (who wouldn't?) but the reality is that it's not gonna happen that way.

Again, I am here posting because I think KD wants to be in phx, so the trade will happen… and I expect my favorite player to be a Net.

The phx picks are worth more because Phx doesn’t attract stars/FA like the lakers. At the time AD was considered 26 yr old top 5 player, not many think Booker is a top 5 player right now.

The 1 yr remaining meant nothing for value to LA because they knew AD would resign

1 yr of 34-35 yr old Durant
1 yr of 35-36 yr old Durant
1 yr of 36-37 yr old Durant
1 yr of 37-38 yr old Durant

Vs AD 26 to 38 age seasons.

We can’t ignore Durants age. There is a reason there are no young all stats on table for KD right now.. doesn’t mean he can’t bring back an awesome package.