Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3

snadler · Post #41 » by **snadler** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 am

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Great thread and insight in why you have to make this deal

robillionaire · Post #42 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:52 am

TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

Or he just sends him to Miami and kills any chance of this team getting any top talent for years to come

djkinetic · Post #43 » by **djkinetic** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:53 am

Orange Mamba wrote:T wolves f*cked this up for us too

Imagine being the nets and not having a market for KD cause of the wolves lol

symbiotic · Post #44 » by **symbiotic** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:53 am

DowNY wrote:
symbiotic wrote:Keep our damn picks so you don't regret this years from now

Regret what?
We getting the 1st pick or something ? How likely is that?

We kept our picks the past decade.
Move on and get players now. We still keep 1sts every other year.

Anything more than 4 picks/swaps is excessive, if going in the eight category. Realistically the Knicks can like the nets who gave up rhe #1 picK in 2017 which turned to JaYson Tatum. It plays into Ainges hands and Ainge is desperate to unload a now Disgruntled superstar. That's why it was refreshing to see the tweet from Shams where it said that it may be a "dance" that goes on for months or years.

You know the Knicks will get #1 in the lottery when they swap or jettisoned to utah

DaGawd · Post #45 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:53 am

TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. While our team can really bounce back with Brunson and other internal growth.

Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

We tryna see good basketball again.. this team as currently constructed looks kinda mid unless a few guys pop

KnixinSix · Post #46 » by **KnixinSix** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:54 am

@Tjonesonthenba provided lots of good info during his interview w/ @spencechecketts
* Deal was close Tuesday night but NY backed away
* Jazz asked for 6 1st round picks + Grimes, Quickly, Obi & McBride
* #UtahJazz don’t want RJ (because of his contract)

Bob Ross · Post #47 » by **Bob Ross** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:54 am

Whatever Shams time isn't real

TrueWarrior · Post #48 » by **TrueWarrior** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:54 am

robillionaire wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

Or he just sends him to Miami and kills any chance of this team getting any top talent for years to come

If Miami wants to give up 47 picks and Herro then let em. They cant even offer that many, but if they mustered it up then good riddance. We’ll survive without the midget.

DowNY · Post #49 » by **DowNY** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:55 am

TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. While our team can really bounce back with Brunson and other internal growth.

Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

Knicks have been internal growing since Porzingis, a better part of the last decade.
It ain’t working.

Br00kLyn · Post #50 » by **Br00kLyn** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:55 am

TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. While our team can really bounce back with Brunson and other internal growth.

Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

well the "midget" is a legit top 15 player in the league. but yea lets keep hoping for that play-in game with our current roster, its working so well!

Meat · Post #51 » by **Meat** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:56 am

AusKnicksTape wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Lol - way to say nothing Shams.

"This could take any possible amount of time to be finalised from and including, immediately, through to and including, every amount of time thereafter."

Watch on YouTube

TrueWarrior · Post #52 » by **TrueWarrior** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:57 am

DaGawd wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. While our team can really bounce back with Brunson and other internal growth.

Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

We tryna see good basketball again.. this team as currently constructed looks kinda mid unless a few guys pop

We have a lot of guys who can “pop” tho. Why not just see what they can do first?

We just signed Brunson to be our lead guard, who owned Mitchell in the playoffs, and now we’re gonna immediately relegate him to be Raymond Felton.

Its cool tho. Dont let me ruin everyone’s dreams.

TrueWarrior · Post #53 » by **TrueWarrior** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:58 am

DowNY wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. While our team can really bounce back with Brunson and other internal growth.

Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

Knicks have been internal growing since Porzingis, a better part of the last decade.
It ain’t working.

We actually havent. We had a bunch of vets on the team that are mostly gone now, and we had no PG.

But ok just give Danny boy whatever he wants.

curryfrieddonut · Post #54 » by **curryfrieddonut** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:00 am

Read on Twitter

Yeah at that price Ainge can kick rocks... did he want the title to MSG as well?

will34 · Post #55 » by **will34** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:02 am

curryfrieddonut wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah at that price Ainge can kick rocks... did he want the title to MSG as well?

That is a ton and goes along with reporting that they asked for a haul and Knicks gave an aggressive counter offer. Ainge has no leverage.

Juco24 · Post #56 » by **Juco24** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:02 am

KnixinSix wrote:@Tjonesonthenba provided lots of good info during his interview w/ @spencechecketts
* Deal was close Tuesday night but NY backed away
* Jazz asked for 6 1st round picks + Grimes, Quickly, Obi & McBride
* #UtahJazz don’t want RJ (because of his contract)

I have no issue walking away from Ainge. That's crazy!!

robillionaire · Post #57 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:03 am

curryfrieddonut wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah at that price Ainge can kick rocks... did he want the title to MSG as well?

* #UtahJazz don’t want RJ (because of his contract)

:lol:

Ouch

DaGawd · Post #58 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:04 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:There is no reason to rush into giving up everything we have for another midget people.

Let Ainge go into this season with Mitchell still on the team. Either Mitchell will ruin his tank or he will not be as good without Rudy and get exposed. While our team can really bounce back with Brunson and other internal growth.

Some of you are so damn desperate its friggin pathetic.

We tryna see good basketball again.. this team as currently constructed looks kinda mid unless a few guys pop

We have a lot of guys who can “pop” tho. Why not just see what they can do first?

We just signed Brunson to be our lead guard, who owned Mitchell in the playoffs, and now we’re gonna immediately relegate him to be Raymond Felton.

Its cool tho. Dont let me ruin everyone’s dreams.

Guess it all comes down to how confident you are in our young talent actually being good.. myself I’m not sold on any of them with my whole heart tbh.. I’m guessing a lot of my fellow Knick brethren and sisters feel the same going by the split in opinions on this. Honestly the fact that we can trade unproven dudes like grimes (who I like a lot but cmon) and reddish for Donovan feels like high way robbery

KnixinSix · Post #59 » by **KnixinSix** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:04 am

curryfrieddonut wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah at that price Ainge can kick rocks... did he want the title to MSG as well?

If his saying the deal was close is true that means we are likely OK with most of that offer. Whether that means 1 different player exchanged for that combination or 1 less pick (or a different type of pick) sounds like we were close.

Also curious is how are we going to fit him under Cap with no big contract like Fournier going back?

Orange Mamba · Post #60 » by **Orange Mamba** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:04 am

will34 wrote:
curryfrieddonut wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah at that price Ainge can kick rocks... did he want the title to MSG as well?

That is a ton and goes along with reporting that they asked for a haul and Knicks gave an aggressive counter offer. Ainge has no leverage.

I listened to the podcast. Maybe I heard wrong but the player selection there seems like more than what he actually mentioned in it