Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[MrDollarBills]

Bridges, Cam Johnson, and picks imo is better than something like Brown/Ingram and a pick or two

Bridges career on/off: +6.4
Mitchell: +1.5
Brown: +1.0
Ingram: +0.9

Bridges might never be a secondary scorer but he impacts the game and helps you win more than a lot of players that are looked at as all stars. I also wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a ~20ppg player in a more expanded role to go along with his elite defense and everything else he brings to a team. Cam Johnson gives you a 6'8 wing putting up 43% from 3 on 6 attempts (similar attempts as Joe) in his third season in the league.

Simmons, Bridges, and Cam Johnson is a very good fit offensively and defensively and essentially gives you the most valuable position in the league right now sorted for the next few years along with draft picks to build around. It would need a primary scorer but you can get to that down the road when looking to contend and that type of player isn't coming back in a KD trade anyways (Brown, Ingram, Mitchell, etc. are not that imo).

We wouldn't have anyone that can create their own shot, which is why I'd want Mitchell or Ingram

I get it but to get Mitchell would take Simmons getting traded for a minimal to nonexistent return. If the Pelicans are out there with Ingram and picks that's good with me.

The offense should be fine for the regular season imo as Simmons is an elite playmaker and Bridges, Johnson, Harris, Curry, etc. is a great offensive fit.

Playoffs/play-in could be a different story but if there's a KD trade this is a rebuild/retool that should have many stages. I think Bridges, Cam Johnson, and the Suns picks gives you players that can be part of a playoff core with some flexibility to add a key player down the road.

We need someone that draws gravity defensively if we are going to trade Durant. Simmons + shooters in transition works fine until you get to the 4th and teams decide to foul Ben intentionally to take him off the floor. Then what?

[gigantes]

We need someone that draws gravity defensively if we are going to trade Durant. Simmons + shooters in transition works fine until you get to the 4th and teams decide to foul Ben intentionally to take him off the floor. Then what?

Hate to say it, but I think you're right.

And it COULD actually work, if these two popsicle-sticks remember the very reason why we fans are paying them many millions of dollars per year, yeah?

Because make no mistake, mateys-- it's US fans (and the local communities these f-cks parasitize-off that constitute the major, REAL portion of their ill-gotten salaries)

[Crives]

We need someone that draws gravity defensively if we are going to trade Durant. Simmons + shooters in transition works fine until you get to the 4th and teams decide to foul Ben intentionally to take him off the floor. Then what?

Hate to say it, but I think you're right.

And it COULD actually work, if these two popsicle-sticks remember the very reason why we fans are paying them many millions of dollars per year, yeah?

Because make no mistake, mateys-- it's US fans (and the local communities these f-cks parasitize-off that constitute the major, REAL portion of their ill-gotten salaries)

Keep in mind we likely keep our pick this year… collecting great young pieces for core moving forward in Bridges/Mikal might work nicely without an elite ball handler for a year… give the ball to Simmons and let’s see what he can do… if it doesn’t work out, we likely get a pick in the 7-12 range, and then next offseason use our draft capital to get a good creator.

[Crives]

KD is 3 years removed from Achilles surgery. He's not coming off of it anymore. He's not an unknown anymore. KD has about a 2 year window as a top 5ish player. His game isn't dependent on athleticism. He will fade gracefully. He's not going from top 5 to bench scrub. It'll be top 5ish for a couple years, then maybe top 15-20, then top 30. The defensive ability will fade, but not the offensive ability. He can be 45 and still be a role playing stretch 4 sniper that can get his shot over anybody.

Bridges is not worth more than Ingram was. They're comparable.

I'll give you that the Phoenix picks have a bit more perceived potential value due to Paul's age, the loss of Ayton and Bridges and Phoenix's historically cheap owner (though Jeannie Buss isn't much better).

Nothing is guaranteed for age 34-38. Value can change so fast.. it’s a massive risk while we don’t own our own picks…. Gambling on 1 more year of Kyrie drama with KD who wants out isn’t worth risking the next 10 years… 34 yr olds with injury history tend to get more injuries. KD should be traded this summer while we can still get a massive return, today is likely best day as we can likely snag turner and some Indi picks.

This is KD. His trade value will be solid regardless. Just put up 30/7/6 on 63% TS....even if there is a falloff it would still be better than the prime of most HOFers.

No doubt it’s still KD… but players can fall off very quickly at this age. Even if his shooting will age gracefully, doesn’t mean his body will. We can get a massive haul this summer. We need to get younger given our lack of picks.

Keep in mind risk of holding KD/Kyrie this year.. good chance we lose Kyrie for nothing instead of getting two juicy lakers picks. KD value could be cut in half next offseason if he misses more games.

[TheNetsFan]

Nothing is guaranteed for age 34-38. Value can change so fast.. it’s a massive risk while we don’t own our own picks…. Gambling on 1 more year of Kyrie drama with KD who wants out isn’t worth risking the next 10 years… 34 yr olds with injury history tend to get more injuries. KD should be traded this summer while we can still get a massive return, today is likely best day as we can likely snag turner and some Indi picks.

This is KD. His trade value will be solid regardless. Just put up 30/7/6 on 63% TS....even if there is a falloff it would still be better than the prime of most HOFers.

No doubt it’s still KD… but players can fall off very quickly at this age. Even if his shooting will age gracefully, doesn’t mean his body will. We can get a massive haul this summer. We need to get younger given our lack of picks.

Keep in mind risk of holding KD/Kyrie this year.. good chance we lose Kyrie for nothing instead of getting two juicy lakers picks. KD value could be cut in half next offseason if he misses more games.

As a Suns fan, why are you masquerading on a Nets board saying "we" far more than any actual Nets fan does?

[Crives]

This is KD. His trade value will be solid regardless. Just put up 30/7/6 on 63% TS....even if there is a falloff it would still be better than the prime of most HOFers.

No doubt it’s still KD… but players can fall off very quickly at this age. Even if his shooting will age gracefully, doesn’t mean his body will. We can get a massive haul this summer. We need to get younger given our lack of picks.

Keep in mind risk of holding KD/Kyrie this year.. good chance we lose Kyrie for nothing instead of getting two juicy lakers picks. KD value could be cut in half next offseason if he misses more games.

As a Suns fan, why are you masquerading on a Nets board saying "we" far more than any actual Nets fan does?

Did you see my earlier post? When Mikal gets traded Nets will be my team to root for out east

[timetoshinebaby]

my prediction is johnson and four firsts and crowder.

This is Kevin Durant. Not Dejounte Murray.

lets see. its the NBA. he is going where he wants. Suns got forced by pacers to keep ayton. guess sometime **** happens.

four firsts, johnson and filler either way is looking sexy at the moment. whether the filler is crowder or bridges not sure yet but ya donkeys will soon see.

its like a relationship, its mutua love, there aren;t any forced marriages here. durant is going to phx.

the oracle has spoken.

[Soca]

my prediction is johnson and four firsts and crowder.

This is Kevin Durant. Not Dejounte Murray.

lets see. its the NBA. he is going where he wants. Suns got forced by pacers to keep ayton. guess sometime **** happens.

four firsts, johnson and filler either way is looking sexy at the moment. whether the filler is crowder or bridges not sure yet but ya donkeys will soon see.

its like a relationship, its mutua love, there aren;t any forced marriages here. durant is going to phx.

the oracle has spoken.

It's not happening.

[Educator]

Phoenix's offer is trash and Miami's is even worse. I'd run the risk of KD wasting his last season being on the right side of 30 over trading him for garbage.

Of course. This is a good thing for Brooklyn. The goal is not to trade Kevin Durant. The goal is keep him. His preferred destination no longer being viable makes that more likely. He may realize, with the exception of the glaring weakness at center, this roster is pretty stacked as it is.

I have seen some people suggest that Phoenix being eliminated is a bad thing because now other teams can lower their offers, but that is just total nonsense. The asking price for Durant does not change because there is one less team that is a realistic trade partner. The Nets simply don't have to trade him. It's up to other teams to meet the Nets' needs for a trade, not the other way around.

I want to agree with y'all. Logically, what you're both saying makes sense. I just have the feeling that EMOTIONALLY Tsai is done with the nonsense and the one foot in, one foot out mentality of the team. I think they'll have a meeting with KD and if he doesn't back down on his trade request, Tsai will tell Marks to get us the best short term and long term offer and take it. That offer is still Bridges, Johnson, Crowder + 5 first round picks.

This is just more about how I feel about the league. Stars always get what they want. It sucks but I'm prepared for it. It's how we got Harden. It's how AD went to LA. Phoenix seems to be up next.

Tsai's judgment is not going to be clouded by emotion. Durant and Irving would both probably be gone by now if that were the case.

And 'stars always get what they want' is a meaningless platitude. You have to look at each situation on its own. Harden and Davis are not apples to apples comparisons to KD's request. The circumstances like age and contract length are very different.

[Tha King]

We wouldn't have anyone that can create their own shot, which is why I'd want Mitchell or Ingram

I get it but to get Mitchell would take Simmons getting traded for a minimal to nonexistent return. If the Pelicans are out there with Ingram and picks that's good with me.

The offense should be fine for the regular season imo as Simmons is an elite playmaker and Bridges, Johnson, Harris, Curry, etc. is a great offensive fit.

Playoffs/play-in could be a different story but if there's a KD trade this is a rebuild/retool that should have many stages. I think Bridges, Cam Johnson, and the Suns picks gives you players that can be part of a playoff core with some flexibility to add a key player down the road.

We need someone that draws gravity defensively if we are going to trade Durant. Simmons + shooters in transition works fine until you get to the 4th and teams decide to foul Ben intentionally to take him off the floor. Then what?

you're right ultimately. Just don't know if that type of player will be available.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Phoenix is no longer a realistic trade partner. Woj has all but confirmed it on ESPN.

New Orleans/Toronto seem unlikely because KD doesn't want to go there and they won't give up their assets with assurances from him.

So I think its more likely than not that we will get at least half a season of 7/11. It it goes poorly I see a very likely deadline deal for both.

If it somehow goes well we may get a season to see this play out.

[NetsWorld]

Phoenix is no longer a realistic trade partner. Woj has all but confirmed it on ESPN.

New Orleans/Toronto seem unlikely because KD doesn't want to go there and they won't give up their assets with assurances from him.

So I think its more likely than not that we will get at least half a season of 7/11. It it goes poorly I see a very likely deadline deal for both.

If it somehow goes well we may get a season to see this play out.

If we squeeze 60 games out of Kyrie and KD, Nets won't have less than 55 wins and a healthy playoff run, potentially a finals run.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Phoenix is no longer a realistic trade partner. Woj has all but confirmed it on ESPN.

New Orleans/Toronto seem unlikely because KD doesn't want to go there and they won't give up their assets with assurances from him.

So I think its more likely than not that we will get at least half a season of 7/11. It it goes poorly I see a very likely deadline deal for both.

If it somehow goes well we may get a season to see this play out.

If we squeeze 60 games out of Kyrie and KD, Nets won't have less than 55 wins and a healthy playoff run, potentially a finals run.

Yeah I have no faith though.

I don't think KD is capable of being a leader at all. And we know Kyrie can't do it.

Our best hope is that teams get more desperate for KD and that Kyrie rebuilds his value.

Then we can trade both and get better value back.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Phoenix is no longer a realistic trade partner. Woj has all but confirmed it on ESPN.

New Orleans/Toronto seem unlikely because KD doesn't want to go there and they won't give up their assets with assurances from him.

So I think its more likely than not that we will get at least half a season of 7/11. It it goes poorly I see a very likely deadline deal for both.

If it somehow goes well we may get a season to see this play out.

If we squeeze 60 games out of Kyrie and KD, Nets won't have less than 55 wins and a healthy playoff run, potentially a finals run.

Yeah I have no faith though.

I don't think KD is capable of being a leader at all. And we know Kyrie can't do it.

Our best hope is that teams get more desperate for KD and that Kyrie rebuilds his value.

Then we can trade both and get better value back.

I honestly think that Nets should run with the team how it is currently constructed and then re-evaluate, if necessary, at the trade deadline or close to it. Unless a long-term injury or a personal hiatus occurs during the first half of the season, the trade values of Simmons and Kyrie have no where to go but up if the team still wants to move them. And as far as KD, teams haven't been offering any packages that move the needle. So my guess is these same level of offers being explored right now will still be there at the trade deadline.

And honestly, if the roster currently constructed stays healthy and motivated (I know, big IFs), this team will win a good amount of games. And winning could be a solution to a lot of the problems currently facing the team.

[MrDollarBills]

No doubt it’s still KD… but players can fall off very quickly at this age. Even if his shooting will age gracefully, doesn’t mean his body will. We can get a massive haul this summer. We need to get younger given our lack of picks.

Keep in mind risk of holding KD/Kyrie this year.. good chance we lose Kyrie for nothing instead of getting two juicy lakers picks. KD value could be cut in half next offseason if he misses more games.

As a Suns fan, why are you masquerading on a Nets board saying "we" far more than any actual Nets fan does?

Did you see my earlier post? When Mikal gets traded Nets will be my team to root for out east

Windhorst is reporting that the Suns did not offer Bridges or the draft capital necessary.

Give it up dude. KD is not getting traded for scraps

[MrDollarBills]

If we squeeze 60 games out of Kyrie and KD, Nets won't have less than 55 wins and a healthy playoff run, potentially a finals run.

Yeah I have no faith though.

I don't think KD is capable of being a leader at all. And we know Kyrie can't do it.

Our best hope is that teams get more desperate for KD and that Kyrie rebuilds his value.

Then we can trade both and get better value back.

I honestly think that Nets should run with the team how it is currently constructed and then re-evaluate, if necessary, at the trade deadline or close to it. Unless a long-term injury or a personal hiatus occurs during the first half of the season, the trade values of Simmons and Kyrie have no where to go but up if the team still wants to move them. And as far as KD, teams haven't been offering any packages that move the needle. So my guess is these same level of offers being explored right now will still be there at the trade deadline.

And honestly, if the roster currently constructed stays healthy and motivated (I know, big IFs), this team will win a good amount of games. And winning could be a solution to a lot of the problems currently facing the team.

This is the best roster we've had on paper since we acquired KD and Kyrie. If we don't win, it will be either due to bad attitudes from KD/Kyrie, sh*t coaching from Nash, or injuries.

So more than likely, this will probably end poorly.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Yeah I have no faith though.

I don't think KD is capable of being a leader at all. And we know Kyrie can't do it.

Our best hope is that teams get more desperate for KD and that Kyrie rebuilds his value.

Then we can trade both and get better value back.

I honestly think that Nets should run with the team how it is currently constructed and then re-evaluate, if necessary, at the trade deadline or close to it. Unless a long-term injury or a personal hiatus occurs during the first half of the season, the trade values of Simmons and Kyrie have no where to go but up if the team still wants to move them. And as far as KD, teams haven't been offering any packages that move the needle. So my guess is these same level of offers being explored right now will still be there at the trade deadline.

And honestly, if the roster currently constructed stays healthy and motivated (I know, big IFs), this team will win a good amount of games. And winning could be a solution to a lot of the problems currently facing the team.

This is the best roster we've had on paper since we acquired KD and Kyrie. If we don't win, it will be either due to bad attitudes from KD/Kyrie, sh*t coaching from Nash, or injuries.

So more than likely, this will probably end poorly.

This team is so stacked. Summer League showed how much young talent we have as well.

KD is just a **** idiot. He had to ruin our chances of contending. Even crazy Kyrie was willing to play it out.

Now the chemistry may just be too far gone.

[Tha King]

I honestly think that Nets should run with the team how it is currently constructed and then re-evaluate, if necessary, at the trade deadline or close to it. Unless a long-term injury or a personal hiatus occurs during the first half of the season, the trade values of Simmons and Kyrie have no where to go but up if the team still wants to move them. And as far as KD, teams haven't been offering any packages that move the needle. So my guess is these same level of offers being explored right now will still be there at the trade deadline.

And honestly, if the roster currently constructed stays healthy and motivated (I know, big IFs), this team will win a good amount of games. And winning could be a solution to a lot of the problems currently facing the team.

This is the best roster we've had on paper since we acquired KD and Kyrie. If we don't win, it will be either due to bad attitudes from KD/Kyrie, sh*t coaching from Nash, or injuries.

So more than likely, this will probably end poorly.

This team is so stacked. Summer League showed how much young talent we have as well.

KD is just a **** idiot. He had to ruin our chances of contending. Even crazy Kyrie was willing to play it out.

Now the chemistry may just be too far gone.

If they are out there to start the season none of this stuff will matter.

Say whatever you want about Durant but he'll be out there competing and looking to win. Yall forget he put his career on the line (in his prime) for a team he was leaving?

Kyrie is the question but this is obviously a very important season for him. He's essentially at a crossroads in his career right now and I think you're getting the best version of Kyrie this season.

Actually, if you go up and down the roster there's a lot of players that have something to prove next season.

Joe has become one the most underrated players in the league now because of that Bucks series and injury

Warren will be returning from injury and looking to show he can play

Curry is an upcoming FA

Didn't even get to Simmons

[Sean_Weezy]

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[TheNetsFan]

As a Suns fan, why are you masquerading on a Nets board saying "we" far more than any actual Nets fan does?

Did you see my earlier post? When Mikal gets traded Nets will be my team to root for out east

Windhorst is reporting that the Suns did not offer Bridges or the draft capital necessary.

Give it up dude. KD is not getting traded for scraps

BS. That's just a team managing their player's ego saying that they were never going to trade him.