Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one

[god shammgod]

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these examples look 10 times better than those images you guys posted where all the faces look like rorschach tests

[SelbyCobra]

Where are you adventuring?



Sham seeing that gif

Eastern Sierra, PCT. Going up and over a pass and then chilling out at an alpine lake for a few days in the backcountry.

I've read that the Sierras are stunning. Hope you have a great time.

Next month I was planning on doing a section in the WA region of the PCT. Going to depend on how bad the fires are at that time.

Yeah, and they are actually better than what you hear, too. Until you've been to CA to see the Eastern Sierras in person you've only seen a fraction of the outdoor visual drama this country has to offer. It's unreal back there, like fantasy land stuff that you only see in CGI movie scenes and videogames.

[TraveyKnicks31]

This deal is coming too soon, for the Jazz not to get a major haul. We have no reason to trade him this week, unless we got what we asked for. My prediction, 3 unprotect from NY, 1 protect NY in 2029, couple of swaps... Obi, Grimes and Quickly. Donovan has three more year on the deal, we have all the leverage in this deal. Utah wins the trade, and the Knicks make the playoffs the next couple years but never make it out of the first round.

Thanks NY!

[stuporman]

if you believe in god you have to acknowledge him as a funny guy, because he goes to different areas of the world and gives them all different beliefs and rules and sits back and laughs as they fight amongst themselves. that's a1 troll behavior. he'd make a great poster here. if he was fat and into candy i'd think he was melo.

...and god's truth shooting percentage is %100 so chanel is worshipping.

[KnixinSix]

I get why people have to believe in a higher power, it's the need to feel as if there's purpose or reason to life

To me, I don't need that because I'm comfortable with not having a grand purpose or reason. I'm just gonna be me

And if at the end of the day, I die and am judged unworthy by a god for not devoting my life to them, that's a being I wouldn't want to worship anyways.

I've found not believing in an afterlife or higher power has made this, life and the present, more meaningful because this is all I have. It's also connected me to future generations because I want to leave this place better for others to enjoy.

And I've always hated Pascals wager. Insurance based faith.

Gekko can save you %15 on your eternal hell in 15 mins....

What if the grand purpose was to become one with God. Not even later on when you go to heaven but right now. What if that was the price of the Cross. It was not so one day we could go to heaven but that Kingdom reality the very nature of God could live and breathe in us right now!

I was hit with this in the shelter and I simply said yes to God...that I wanted to be his Son just like Jesus was. The rest is history. I carry the nature of God and am born from above not from below. Its a pretty special purpose...a pretty special destiny. To have the same nature as the one who created the Heavens and the Earth.

[TrueWarrior]

This deal is coming too soon, for the Jazz not to get a major haul. We have no reason to trade him this week, unless we got what we asked for. My prediction, 3 unprotect from NY, 1 protect NY in 2029, couple of swaps... Obi, Grimes and Quickly. Donovan has three more year on the deal, we have all the leverage in this deal. Utah wins the trade, and the Knicks make the playoffs the next couple years but never make it out of the first round.

Thanks NY!

It wouldnt shock me at all if you’re right, but still gtfo.

[mpharris36]

This deal is coming too soon, for the Jazz not to get a major haul. We have no reason to trade him this week, unless we got what we asked for. My prediction, 3 unprotect from NY, 1 protect NY in 2029, couple of swaps... Obi, Grimes and Quickly. Donovan has three more year on the deal, we have all the leverage in this deal. Utah wins the trade, and the Knicks make the playoffs the next couple years but never make it out of the first round.

Thanks NY!

FOH even your saurces says you are getting a pick haul but not players...you aren't getting all our 1sts and obi/grimes/IQ

[Kampuchea]

This deal is coming too soon, for the Jazz not to get a major haul. We have no reason to trade him this week, unless we got what we asked for. My prediction, 3 unprotect from NY, 1 protect NY in 2029, couple of swaps... Obi, Grimes and Quickly. Donovan has three more year on the deal, we have all the leverage in this deal. Utah wins the trade, and the Knicks make the playoffs the next couple years but never make it out of the first round.

Thanks NY!

[DOT]

What if the grand purpose was to become one with God.

Mate, that's Buddhism.

[DE FENSE]

The only thing this thread is missing right now is booty pics....i miss them old days

[GONYK]

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Sounds like he got a slap on the wrist from his sauce

[TraveyKnicks31]

The only thing this thread is missing right now is booty pics....i miss them old days

Surely if we talkin bout god then I can post a butt….right?

[thebuzzardman]

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these examples look 10 times better than those images you guys posted where all the faces look like rorschach tests

The AI knows how to articulate the inner pain of the end user

[3toheadmelo]

We got religion wars going on in the midst of Donovan Mitchell rumors lmao

[mpharris36]

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Sounds like he got a slap on the wrist from his sauce

Sounds like the owner had loose lips and texted him...then Ainge was like STFU we still have to haggle some protections...Knicks get word they are like **** top 4 protected lottery protected now MOFO

[3toheadmelo]

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these examples look 10 times better than those images you guys posted where all the faces look like rorschach tests

showing your age old man

[K_ick_God]

Let’s get toxic

"get"? It's been that way for 10 years.

[Dave DaButcher]

Knicks forum discusses the merits of spirituality, metaphysics and the brotherhood of man. Jazz forum discusses the merits of slavery.

Easy to understand why Donovan is so excited for this trade.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Obi played 74% of his minutes with IQ. So it's inevitable their performance on team-based stats like +/- will tend to be close. That doesn't mean their impact on those point differentials is necessarily equal. IQ scores much higher than Obi on the best available impact metrics, so it's reasonable to assume that he has largely been driving those numbers.

Also, again, those point diffentials came against bench units. It's hard to tell if they are scalable vs starting units, due to the small sample size.

I will check out the piece on Millsap, thanks.

The Millsap doctrine will have you looking at player projections differently, especially when they're already efficient like Obi.

The article is interesting but I think it is outdated, and can be refuted on several levels. I don't say this as a criticism of the piece, as it was - remarkably - well ahead of its time when it was published in 2007.

My first comment, before I get to the core of the article, is specific to Obi. The article mentions how the minutes of bench players are often staggered, and frequently overlap with the starters. That is largely true, and it definitely applies to a player like D-Rose, who often closed games for the Knicks, but I don't think it really does for Obi. Thibs doesn't really stagger line-ups, and Obi (being stuck behind Randle, and playing for a coach who doesn't play him at the 5 either) has predominantly played against bench units. So in his case, the separation between starters and bench is particularly relevant.

My second and more important point is that the article uses boxscore numbers (and boxscore-heavy metrics like PER, which is now fairly obsolete) and per-40 minutes, which I think is an inaccurate and outdated way of projecting impact. I agree with the article's premise that production doesn't necessarily suffer, and can in fact improve by going from bench player to starter, especially if they get minutes in bigger chunks. But production doesn't necessarily translate to impact. And I think the more modern metrics like RAPM and RAPTOR, which are primarily plus/minus- and/or on/off-based statistics that aim to extract the noise from raw plus/minus or on/off by adjusting for context, are far more interesting and accurate for player projection.

I never doubted that Obi could be a productive player in the NBA, even a starter. I believe I even said that when I was more vehemently opposed to the pick around draft time. My worry about him is about the impact that he can have as a 4 with little positional versatility who has yet to demonstrate that he can be a reliable 3-point shooter and a plus defender. I actually like him more now than I did before, since he has improved a lot on defense, and his finishing at the basket has been truly impressive, but those questions remain largely unanswered in my opinion.

The piece gives interesting insights about projecting production, but has little value (by today's standards) in terms of projecting impact.

What exactly are we doing here Chanel? If you think he can be a productive starter, then what else is there? How about we find out whether or not he can be an impact player, but if your point is that you think he can already be a productive starter, I don't know what else you're trying to argue.

If you have Donovan Mitchell, why would Obi then need to be an impact player, provided he's still on the team? Considering at his absolute best he would be a 4th option, and 4th best player on the team, why is "Can he be an impact guy" even in your mind?

[god shammgod]

We got religion wars going on in the midst of Donovan Mitchell rumors lmao

i missed how it even started. but you know i don't be reading these posts for more than a sentence or two. nodope had the nerve to tell me to read an article he attached to a post. as if