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Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1701 » by inhabitMiami » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:09 am

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inhabitMiami wrote:Yall need to give up on Turner. He's not an actual floor spacing big.

I'm not looking at Turner as any sort of savior or even a probable target but if he's not a floor spacing big than who is? He's a career 35% shooter from 3 on 2.5 attempts. For reference, recent floor spacers we've used in the front court: Olynyk 37% on 3 attempts, Myers Leonard 39% on 2 attempts. I know who isn't a floor spacer

That number is missing context. 3+ of his 4.4 attempts from 3 last year were classified as Wide Open. He shot 32.5% on those shots. Teams leave him unguarded out there and he doesn't make them pay. He quite literally does not space the floor.
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Post#1702 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:14 am

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No it’s just that it’s not feasible. While we’re under the Jimmy window we need Bam to be our second guy consistently in the short term unless we somehow land a Hail Mary trade for a third star


Bam has been our 2nd guy, im sorry you have a short sighted view of that directly correlating to PPG but it’s far more than that. We’ve been to a finals and now we’re 1 shot away from our 2nd appearance in 3 years. There’s nothing wrong with adding another piece to get us over the hump.

It is feasible, when you factor in Herro Jovic and our ability to produce 4/5 picks there will be something out there you can get done.


It's not a PPG issue though we needed him to step it up a notch offensively in the playoffs and he did not consistently. Jimmy was the only offensive weapon with Herro being a no show. Thats not writing Bam off as an all around player it's just saying we need more from him being paid as a second superstar. Whether we can produce that many picks has yet to be seen yet


He could’ve been better offensively, he also won us a game himself in game 3 and was the only player to show up and help in game 7. You can’t point to any of the losses in the ECF and say we lost the game because he didn’t hit his scoring average
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1704 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:16 am

inhabitMiami wrote:That number is missing context. 3+ of his 4.4 attempts from 3 last year were classified as Wide Open. He shot 32.5% on those shots. Teams leave him unguarded out there and he doesn't make them pay. He quite literally does not space the floor.

I was looking at his career numbers not just last year. That figure you posted is a little below league average, at least he will shoot it wide open.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1705 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:16 am

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To him God kills a puppy each time somebody says Bam is overrated & isn’t untouchable :lol:


Pat agrees with me. We’re doing all we can to not trade him for arguably the best player in the world and some of you think your hot takes are justified :lol:


It’s the offseason. People are speculating. It’s hilarious to see you spaz out in your feelings about your beloved bam :lol: you player fan boys are a trip


I’m a Heat fan over everything else. Bam isn’t even my favorite player on the team, I just call out the terrible hot takes when I see it. Some of you need to learn the game
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1706 » by jele » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:18 am

Pharenheit wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Pharenheit wrote:
No it’s just that it’s not feasible. While we’re under the Jimmy window we need Bam to be our second guy consistently in the short term unless we somehow land a Hail Mary trade for a third star


Bam has been our 2nd guy, im sorry you have a short sighted view of that directly correlating to PPG but it’s far more than that. We’ve been to a finals and now we’re 1 shot away from our 2nd appearance in 3 years. There’s nothing wrong with adding another piece to get us over the hump.

It is feasible, when you factor in Herro Jovic and our ability to produce 4/5 picks there will be something out there you can get done.


It's not a PPG issue though we needed him to step it up a notch offensively in the playoffs and he did not consistently. Jimmy was the only offensive weapon with Herro being a no show. Thats not writing Bam off as an all around player it's just saying we need more from him being paid as a second superstar. Whether we can produce that many picks has yet to be seen yet

Precisely! Herro exposed Bam! Bam was ridding on Herro's teenie weenie for the whole season becasue Herro was scoring 20 ppg, creating offense, and even assisting Bam to get some easy buckets. But, in the playoffs guess what? Herro was not able to score because of injuries and also because of double teams and this unveiled Bam's true lack of scoring skills. No wonder Bam's PPG average went down significantly during the playoff. So this proves that we are not winning a championship with Bam's lack of scoring power. Anybody would rather have KD over Bam as a max player.
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Post#1707 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:18 am

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1708 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:20 am

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i dont understand why heat fans think bam is untouchaable... zero offensive game, and all he can really do is defend. we need to stop overrating our own players. if we can get KD for 3+ seasons at 34 for bam, im taking it. that could get us 2 titles before KDs starts to show his age. We can win this trade against brkn too, because no one is offering them anything we could offer Bam + one 1st Rounder pick and say take it or leave it. we could keep herro and put an insane offensive lineup of lowry/herro/jimmy/kd... just would need to find a good center, remember the miami heat big 3? we used all kinds of centers and we still found success.

Exactly! Bam is so overated among some heat fans. I will ask this question again: If Bam is a star in this league then..Why are we all looking to trade for another star?


bam is not a star. you cant even call bam a fringe star... bam is just bam, a good rebounder/defender and thats it... nothing more than that. if we got kd by giving up bam and some picks, we should throw a party lol. :lol:


This is Almost as bad as you saying Jimmy and KD would be the best duo in not only Heat history, but NBA history :lol:
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Post#1709 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:28 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Pat agrees with me. We’re doing all we can to not trade him for arguably the best player in the world and some of you think your hot takes are justified :lol:


It’s the offseason. People are speculating. It’s hilarious to see you spaz out in your feelings about your beloved bam :lol: you player fan boys are a trip


I’m a Heat fan over everything else. Bam isn’t even my favorite player on the team, I just call out the terrible hot takes when I see it. Some of you need to learn the game


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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1710 » by IggieCC » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:29 am

eddieheatfan wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mailbag-is-it-time-for-heat-to-turn-attention-to-trade-options-not-named-kevin-durant/ar-AAZRcql?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=79321b4a26004eb7ee98a2110b2473ff

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Post#1711 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:30 am

jele wrote:
Pharenheit wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Bam has been our 2nd guy, im sorry you have a short sighted view of that directly correlating to PPG but it’s far more than that. We’ve been to a finals and now we’re 1 shot away from our 2nd appearance in 3 years. There’s nothing wrong with adding another piece to get us over the hump.

It is feasible, when you factor in Herro Jovic and our ability to produce 4/5 picks there will be something out there you can get done.


It's not a PPG issue though we needed him to step it up a notch offensively in the playoffs and he did not consistently. Jimmy was the only offensive weapon with Herro being a no show. Thats not writing Bam off as an all around player it's just saying we need more from him being paid as a second superstar. Whether we can produce that many picks has yet to be seen yet

Precisely! Herro exposed Bam! Bam was ridding on Herro's teenie weenie for the whole season becasue Herro was scoring 20 ppg, creating offense, and even assisting Bam to get some easy buckets. But, in the playoffs guess what? Herro was not able to score because of injuries and also because of double teams and this unveiled Bam's true lack of scoring skills. No wonder Bam's PPG average went down significantly during the playoff. So this proves that we are not winning a championship with Bam's lack of scoring power. Anybody would rather have KD over Bam as a max player.


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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1712 » by dean456 » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:38 am

One thing that frustrates me watching Jimmy work on his outside shot is that he looks like he's just going through the motions or just doing it for warmups before a game.

Practicing 3s like you have all the time in the world to get your shot off isn't going to make him better in game. You watch any other good 3 point shooter practice their 3s they are going at full speed.

If Jimmy wants to get better at shooting 3's he needs to approach practicing 3s like he would a workout and go 100%.
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Post#1713 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:52 am

dean456 wrote:One thing that frustrates me watching Jimmy work on his outside shot is that he looks like he's just going through the motions or just doing it for warmups before a game.

Practicing 3s like you have all the time in the world to get your shot off isn't going to make him better in game. You watch any other good 3 point shooter practice their 3s they are going at full speed.

If Jimmy wants to get better at shooting 3's he needs to approach practicing 3s like he would a workout and go 100%.


Diff types of shooting work. cld be doing form work focusing on technique which doesn't require game speed. It looks like it may the case here looks like focusing repeating same movement w/ no urgency.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1714 » by inhabitMiami » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:55 am

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inhabitMiami wrote:That number is missing context. 3+ of his 4.4 attempts from 3 last year were classified as Wide Open. He shot 32.5% on those shots. Teams leave him unguarded out there and he doesn't make them pay. He quite literally does not space the floor.

I was looking at his career numbers not just last year. That figure you posted is a little below league average, at least he will shoot it wide open.


32.5% on Wide Open shots is "a little below league average"? Maybe if you factor in all the terrible shooters also taking shots lol. Point is dude doesn't space the floor. He doesn't convert open looks so teams leave him wide open and pack the paint.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1715 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:58 am

inhabitMiami wrote:32.5% on Wide Open shots is "a little below league average"? Maybe if you factor in all the terrible shooters also taking shots lol. Point is dude doesn't space the floor. He doesn't convert open looks so teams leave him wide open and pack the paint.


I'm not going to die on the Myles Turner hill because frankly I dont believe Spo has interest in a traditional front court, so it is what it is. A sniper isn't needed in that role just someone with the capability to take and knock down a couple of 3s.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1716 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:00 am

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1717 » by HeatIn5 » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:28 am

Big trade. Thanks OP. OP did it.

Cost controlled 24 year old star for 2 30 year old UFA's .

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1718 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:35 am

IggieCC wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mailbag-is-it-time-for-heat-to-turn-attention-to-trade-options-not-named-kevin-durant/ar-AAZRcql?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=79321b4a26004eb7ee98a2110b2473ff

Mailbag: Is it time for Heat to turn attention to trade options not named Kevin Durant?

wow Microsoft news eddie? lmao

did you ask that question? what did Microsoft say about what should Heat do? eddie?
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1719 » by heatwillbeback » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:38 am

HeatIn5 wrote:Big trade. Thanks OP. OP did it.

Cost controlled 24 year old star for 2 30 year old UFA's .

Y'all welcome. Biggest thread of the year thanks to OP






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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs 

Post#1720 » by fsuizzy » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:52 am

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HeatIn5 wrote:Big trade. Thanks OP. OP did it.

Cost controlled 24 year old star for 2 30 year old UFA's .

Y'all welcome. Biggest thread of the year thanks to OP






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I know none of these people. Did we win? :lol:


Neither am I. But according to twitter and hockey forums not by a long shot. The Panthers get a great player but gave up the house and future picks for him. Like the Heat getting Young Durant but trade Jimmy, Herro, Bam, Duncan and first round picks just for Durant and extended Durant to a huge contract without know if Durant would eventually become a top 3 player in the league.
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